discuss NaturalBeauty.com has just sold for 9,999 USD, lost over 55,000 usd

Sinh · Oct 27, 2017

naturalbeauty.com sold at 9,999 USD on 2017-10-26 at Sedo, the previous owner bought it at Namejet auction at 64,900 usd in 2008. What do you think about this domain? Is it worth more?

dordomai · Nov 1, 2017

Rhythm8 said:
denial is not just a river in Egypt

lol. .com is king and always will be.

dordomai · Nov 1, 2017

please name the TLD of your email provider, your ISP, your search engine etc.

let me guess it is .email, .web and .search

Rhythm8 · Nov 1, 2017

email: not .com

ISP: not .com

search: not .com

dordomai · Nov 1, 2017

Rhythm8 said:
Of all the stupid and intelligence-insulting cliches, canards and mantras that have been mass-marketed in this bovine, moronic 21st century, I find that by far the most absolutely contemptible one is

'.com is king'

yeah right and king.royal will always be worth more than king.com

Rhythm8 · Nov 1, 2017

dordomai said:
yeah right and king.royal will always be worth more than king.com

You're really good at generating bad examples like

King.royal

You're really bad at generating good examples like

The.King

boker · Nov 1, 2017

dordomai said:
less than 20 reported domainer sales globally last month

This is false, at least two namepros members have sold over 100 ngtlds each this year, between low xxx and high xxxx, and at least 10 others have sold over 10k worth of ngtlds, if you check the reported sales thread. If namepros members have done this, try to think that there are some chinese marketplaces that deal only with digit domains and ngtlds and there are other places with members selling them, but still, you are taking about 20 sales 'globally'.

dordomai · Nov 1, 2017

boker said:
This is false, at least two namepros members have sold over 100 ngtlds each this year, between low xxx and high xxxx, and at least 10 others have sold over 10k worth of ngtlds, if you check the reported sales thread. If namepros members have done this, try to think that there are some chinese marketplaces that deal only with digit domains and ngtlds and there are other places with members selling them, but still, you are taking about 20 sales 'globally'.

i wrote reported meaning listed on namebio.com. Of course many sales are not reported. Namebio will also list only sales above $100. Still it is not much because the major marketplaces are tracked by Namebio.

so sedo, afternic, godaddy, flippa and namejet had less than 20 domain sales combined where no registry sale was involved.

https://namebio.com/?s==QjNzcjN4QTM

boker · Nov 1, 2017

dordomai said:
i wrote reported meaning listed on namebio.com. Of course many sales are not reported. Namebio will also list only sales above $100.

I'm not talking about 100$ sales and namebio doesn't report lot's of sales, from my 19 end-user sales from this year I don't have any reported by namebio. 90% of the ngtlds sales are not reported, because they are outbounds or using efty, undeveloped and others landing pages Check some of the sales from this month (not mine), reported by namepros members, I can bet that most of them you will not find them at namebio, I think that there are at least ten times more ngtlds sales than reported each month:

Sold:
Biz.community
Fitness.community
- Total price: $5525
- Sold via own landing pages, so an inbound sale

$1000 - A private sale:
Boat .center

Domain name: check.news
Sale venue: afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $850
Purchase Price + renew - $25 (29 Sep 2016)

Domain name: rudy.xyz
Sale venue: undeveloped.com (negotiated)
Seller: Me
Sale price: $350
Purchase Price - $0.99 (09 Nov 2016)

Domain name: clothing.news
Sale venue: afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $399
Purchase Price + renew - <$45 (01 Oct 2016)

Domain name: orlando.xyz
Sale venue: Afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $995
Purchase Price + 2 yrs renew - $20 (20 Aug 2015)

Domain name: treehouse.xyz
Sale venue: Afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $599
Purchase Price + renew - $13 (4 Dec 2015)

Domain name: circumcision.xyz
Sale venue: Afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $499
Purchase Price - $1 (30 Oct 2016)

Domain name: keto.xyz
Sale venue: Afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $499
Purchase Price - $1 (27 Nov 2016)

Sold:
Domain name: preorders.xyz
Sale venue: Undeveloped.com (negotiated)
Seller: Me
Sale price: $700
Purchase Price - $0.99 (10 May 2017)

$700 at Afternic. A 2015 hand reg:
Craft.vodka

dordomai · Nov 1, 2017

boker said:
I'm not talking about 100$ sales and namebio doesn't report lot's of sales, from my 19 end-user sales from this year I don't have any reported by namebio. 90% of the ngtls sales are not reported, because they are outbounds or using efty, undeveloped and others landing pages Check some of the sales from this month (not mine), reported by namepros members, I can bet that most of them you will not find them at namebio, I think that there are at least ten times more ngtlds sales than reported each month:

Sold:
Biz.community
Fitness.community
- Total price: $5525
- Sold via own landing pages, so an inbound sale

$1000 - A private sale:
Boat .center

Domain name: check.news
Sale venue: afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $850
Purchase Price + renew - $25 (29 Sep 2016)

Domain name: rudy.xyz
Sale venue: undeveloped.com (negotiated)
Seller: Me
Sale price: $350
Purchase Price - $0.99 (09 Nov 2016)

Domain name: clothing.news
Sale venue: afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $399
Purchase Price + renew - <$45 (01 Oct 2016)

Domain name: orlando.xyz
Sale venue: Afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $995
Purchase Price + 2 yrs renew - $20 (20 Aug 2015)

Domain name: treehouse.xyz
Sale venue: Afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $599
Purchase Price + renew - $13 (4 Dec 2015)

Domain name: circumcision.xyz
Sale venue: Afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $499
Purchase Price - $1 (30 Oct 2016)

Domain name: keto.xyz
Sale venue: Afternic BIN
Seller: Me
Sale price: $499
Purchase Price - $1 (27 Nov 2016)

Sold:
Domain name: preorders.xyz
Sale venue: Undeveloped.com (negotiated)
Seller: Me
Sale price: $700
Purchase Price - $0.99 (10 May 2017)

$700 at Afternic. A 2015 hand reg:
Craft.vodka

yes reported sales are maybe 5-10% of what is sold but it is also true for other extensions. you have maybe 200-400 sales a month in reality, 7-13 a day on average.

boker · Nov 1, 2017

dordomai said:
yes reported sales are maybe 5-10% of what is sold but it is also true for other extensions.

It's true, but it's not the same. For example godaddy, namejet, dropcatch they report everything, and they don't really do ngtlds, more than half of them can't be even listed for sale at godaddy, so peoples are selling them through landing pages, which are not reported to namebio. Also, chinese marketplaces are not reporting to namebio.

dordomai · Nov 1, 2017

boker said:
It's true, but it's not the same. For example godaddy, namejet, dropcatch they report everything, and they don't really do ngtlds, more than half of them can't be even listed for sale at godaddy, so peoples are selling them through landing pages, which are not reported to namebio. Also, chinese marketplaces are not reporting to namebio.

I have noticed that some transactions (for .com) above 1000 USD on Afternic that I made did not show up either.

boker · Nov 1, 2017

dordomai said:
I have noticed that some transactions (for .com) above 1000 USD on Afternic that I made did not show up either.

I don't think afternic reports any sales lately, they have only 3 reported in october and 2 in september .

carob · Nov 1, 2017

What if the original buyer was an end-user who then did not use the name and dumped it a few years later?

Speaking of endusers did anyone notice this recent sale:

enduser.com 4,100 USD 2017-10-27 NameJet
endusers.com 5,000 USD 2009-11-11 Afternic

dordomai · Nov 1, 2017

naturalbeauty.com is worth more than 10k today.

domainer111 · Nov 1, 2017

It depends what the seller does with the $10k. If he can get three names like NaturalBeauty.com that would be great. Fabulous domain.

Rhythm8 · Nov 1, 2017

dordomai said:
naturalbeauty.com is worth more than 10k today.

Perhaps

Perhaps not

Right now it's worth less

dordomai · Nov 1, 2017

Rhythm8 said:
Perhaps

Perhaps not

Right now it's worth less

https://www.name.com/account/ntld/watcher/?domain=natural.beauty&tld=beauty

wonder what the price of this will be?

domainer111 · Nov 1, 2017

domainer111 said:
It depends what the seller does with the $10k. If he can get three names like NaturalBeauty.com that would be great. Fabulous domain.

Apologies that should be "they" instead of "he".

Maxleron · Nov 1, 2017

It worth a lot for this type of domain name but what kind of site will be developed to...

rentmynames · Nov 2, 2017

Daniel Owens said:
That domain is worth $500,000 easily shocked it went so cheap. That must have been some sort of inside deal as that sales price being so cheap is hard to believe.

Another dreamer

bmugford · Nov 2, 2017

Good buy. I would without a doubt pay $10K for this domain. It is an amazing keyword/brand.

Brad

sbweb · Nov 3, 2017

If he couldn't sell it, he should've developed it. It's a premium domain and the domain alone would give you credibility in the industry.

cartoonz · Nov 10, 2017

Sinh said:
naturalbeauty.com sold at 9,999 USD on 2017-10-26 at Sedo, the previous owner bought it at Namejet auction at 64,900 usd in 2008. What do you think about this domain? Is it worth more?

In 2008, I was after this domain. The original owners were a husband/wife team that had a failed cosmetics brand around it... subsequently, they divorced and the husband renewed the domain for a few more years... then it expired in 2008. They were in Colorado, then they divorced and moved away. They may have had a lot of creditors from the failed business, because he was really hard to find... but of course, I did manage to get a line on him - through his parents in Fresno.

I called them up and explained why I was trying to contact him and that I was willing to pay a great deal of money for this. His mother thought that he could definitely use that and told me she would tell him when he came over for dinner that night and have him call me. A week goes by and no word... so I call again and speak with dad... he confirms they told him, and promises to relay the message again... knowing I would have paid $20k. Still nothing from the guy. Domain hits NameJet, sells for just shy of $65k, and the guy gets $0.

It was really tempting for me to contact the parents again afterwards and tell them how their son had screwed up... but I didn't.

Had I known it was available now for $10k, I'd have paid that in a heartbeat.

Registry Services · Nov 10, 2017

cartoonz said:
In 2008, I was after this domain. ...
Had I known it was available now for $10k, I'd have paid that in a heartbeat.

Cool story bro - even without the dragons

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