discuss NaturalBeauty.com has just sold for 9,999 USD, lost over 55,000 usd

Sinh · Oct 27, 2017

naturalbeauty.com sold at 9,999 USD on 2017-10-26 at Sedo, the previous owner bought it at Namejet auction at 64,900 usd in 2008. What do you think about this domain? Is it worth more?

Hootsifer · Oct 27, 2017

Thats no good, but the latest sale might've just been a quick sale for quick cash.

DASHCAMCLIPS · Oct 27, 2017

Way more. If I would have been asked to develop it a name like that would have created an income of 9,999 USD in a matter of weeks. Development is for 99% in the name itself, and a name where obviously you can target every woman on this planet with is a dream of every person in my industry.

Unfortunately most owners of great names are blind and deaf to reason. So whoever owns naturalbeauty.com now: congrats on a great deal!

mad409 · Oct 27, 2017

Should have been at least a mid five figure sale IMO, not sure what happened.

carob · Oct 27, 2017

DASHCAMCLIPS said:
If I would have been asked to develop it a name like that would have created an income of 9,999 USD in a matter of weeks.

How would you do that?

Beauty domain name sales on Namebio show just 10 over 10k, and one of those is beauty.com and another is the previous sale of this same domain. https://namebio.com/?s==kTMycDM4QTM

Domainscoop.com · Oct 27, 2017

DASHCAMCLIPS said:
Making money on some domains is extremely easy. Where millions of names are parked and generate next to nothing a name you give a basic development offers a chance to generate loads of income.

My company is specialised in the development of marketing-strategies, and in general we look for creative solutions. Although most of what we develop is aimed at the Dutch market we do have some international projects in our portfolio.

As soon as a project is set to go online at a certain date we put a landing-page online. That way we serve several purposes. The main ones are preparing our market so they know the project is coming, and at the same time help our client in covering the costs for our services.

On a landing-page where it is possible we post ads. For example on natutalbeauty.com on the landing-page we would show ads of any company related to that market. But instead of serving ads through Google we use our own banner-server. So if a client buys a campaign for his ads at 1,000 USD our income is 1,000 USD. Where when you serve ads through Google you get paid per result and afterwards, we get paid upfront (or within 30 days, depending on the advertiser) and all we have to do is generate the impressions or clicks the client wants.

A good name, a clear vision and a global market as a combination offer a huge potential to make money. Where to others it is difficult or even impossible we deal with this issue every day. The actual trick is not the development itself, but more how to develop a site you can sell once it makes money for an even better price.

The reason many owners of great names do not make money is also for a part in the fact that they cannot or do not want to invest time and a few bucks in the development of their site. But if you consider the fact that a small investment can make you thousands of dollars if you have a good name, and almost all expertise you need if you want is provided through a company like ours (there are many great companies who can help) selling a great domain on a lousy price is not all that smart.

Any name that can attract an audience can make money. Simple as that. Of course, the above is a very short summary on it all, but the point is that actively pushing for income is not that difficult. As soon as for income you depend on others like Google getting your income up to speed is impossible. Be creative.

If you need help on any development just send me a PM.

First: This is not a advertisement post

Second: Simply putting pages aka development won't bring anything unless there is atleast 50k visitors plus on it , been there and done that.

Third: even though you have great domain and good development: lot of money goes into creating something unique and taking more risk of advertising your website ------Lot of people don't want to take that risk why? What if they spent 10 k additional and won't make anything back?

Domain selling/buying without developing ---aka DOMAINING- hence th people trading are domainers

Also if that was true above you mentioned why have not you already made millions ? Yet?? Since its easy to do as you mention etc .

DASHCAMCLIPS · Oct 27, 2017

Domainscoop.com said:
First: This is not a advertisement post

Second: Simply putting pages aka development won't bring anything unless there is atleast 50k visitors plus on it , been there and done that.

Third: even though you have great domain and good development: lot of money goes into creating something unique and taking more risk of advertising your website ------Lot of people don't want to take that risk why? What if they spent 10 k additional and won't make anything back?

Domain selling/buying without developing ---aka DOMAINING- hence th people trading are domainers

As I said: the message contains a very short summary. Sorry about that, but giving an online lecture on making money and the development of domains would take weeks to write.

Spending 10k is not the kind of spending meant. It would be around 500 to 1.500 euro plus tax, but that is just about it. In orde to prevent a client from making a loss before we accept any order a all we first look at what we can do. So when I am sure enough ads can be sold prior to a client giving an order the loss is already out the window. But good point, I did not mention it.

Besides the details however it works as said. Even on a small scale you can do loads of things with domains to have them make money. If you do not believe me: why do you think there are ads on landing-pages?

The answer is simple: people with an interest see them.

As soon as you get the deeper meaning in that you can develop anything.

Sorry about the advertising-thing, I did not realise it when I posted it. By "send me a PM" I meant more like "if you need help or want an opinion send me a message".

carob · Oct 27, 2017

Domainscoop.com said:
Simply putting pages aka development won't bring anything unless there is atleast 50k visitors plus on it , been there and done that.

That is an important point because without traffic no monetisation can happen and traffic needs content to attract it, or advertising $, or type-in traffic. And the monetisation needs to be effective.

There used to be a belief that any good domain would get type-in traffic and any development would make money from that. The Adam Dicker scandal is mostly about him charging a lot for that development - in many cases it seems he did not do the work, but anyway when he did, the huge revenues did not appear. So always check your assumptions in this field.

DASHCAMCLIPS · Oct 27, 2017

carob said:
That is an important point because without traffic no monetisation can happen and traffic needs content to attract it, or advertising $, or type-in traffic. And the monetisation needs to be effective.
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As I was not born yesterday being able to generate traffic in a proper volume is an integral part of each project. Of course we can all start to split hairs, but what I wrote is a very general summary of what can be done.

I know it is important to leave comments, but perhaps that is also why many domainders do not develop the good names. Don't look for bears on the road. Look at where you want to go.

Sinh · Oct 27, 2017

Everyone has their own purpose on domain business. It's up to you to figure out what your purpose in this business is. No one can make that decision for you. Like me, I want to make money by flipping domain names only because domains development is not my strong point.

kandyan · Oct 27, 2017

It's a Category killer, easily a Mid 5 - Six fig domain.. Development is the way to go.

It's not easy but it's not that hard either, if you have some money to sustain the early phase..IMO

kandyan · Oct 27, 2017

New buyer got a definite bargain imo..

EmotiveDomains · Oct 27, 2017

Yeah that latest buyer got a great deal. I'm surprised it sold for so little.

CarlosN · Oct 27, 2017

DASHCAMCLIPS said:
Way more. If I would have been asked to develop it a name like that would have created an income of 9,999 USD in a matter of weeks.

You'll need a good amount of traffic to generate $10k income, where the visitors will be coming from?

Kate · Oct 27, 2017

Good name, but it was bought at end user price then resold at reseller price. That's the problem.

Domainscoop.com · Oct 27, 2017

Really stop the non-sense, its ok to have web developing company, and its other thing to rob people off their money by giving them false hopes.

Yes you can develop for example : Hotel.com , assuming its getting one million visitors a year, you can convert may be 3 percent of that traffic, boom, but that domain will cost you 10 million plus USD. Do you know what you can buy with "10 Million dollars" , I can put you in touch with through website broker, who have several sites for sale for 1 million - 2 million, that are making 200 to 300k per year revenue.

So please, cut the nonsense, and don't give false hopes to people. Simply putting a site wont do anything, THATS just a BEGINNING. Basically you have to commit so many hours a day on promoting, and advertising to even have the website take off.

anyhow am out.

BaileyUK · Oct 27, 2017

I keep my eye on the domain sales lists from two sources and this one did really did catch my eye, Summed-up nicely by Kate . The buyer definitely has a safe investment in their hands.

wwwweb · Oct 27, 2017

kandyan said:
It's a Category killer, easily a Mid 5 - Six fig domain.. Development is the way to go.

It's not easy but it's not that hard either, if you have some money to sustain the early phase..IMO

If it was a 5-6 figure domain, it would not have sold for $10K.

People often say this after the sale, talk to the owner of years, and the lowball offers etc... sometimes you have to hold it, to know it.

I question some of those 2008 sales, sometimes they never change hands.

Domainscoop.com · Oct 27, 2017

Let me tell you, stop assuming "may be domainers dont want to do this or that in development" - i am a domainer, and I have made close to 100k from google adsense/affiliates from sites.

And now i spent 800 $ on a domain recently and put in 15K on the development on that 800 $ domain which I am launching next week. Now go figure, now you can see the proportion of development cost to domain in this case.

Not every single case is same, and i just dont like false advertising, where people dream big because someone said we can help you make millions etc, and we will manage this or that.

All the best - but just dont get someone hopes when you know these may not take off - if it would have taken off - my friend you would not be here posting on forums - you would be in somewhere in caribbean taking vacations.

john888 · Oct 27, 2017

Killer magazine name. On a magazine rack this says pick me up for a woman. With the growth of natural health and natural beauty products this domain name has a lot of potential.

frank-germany · Oct 28, 2017

DASHCAMCLIPS said:
Way more. If I would have been asked to develop it a name like that would have created an income of 9,999 USD in a matter of weeks. Development is for 99% in the name itself, and a name where obviously you can target every woman on this planet with is a dream of every person in my industry.

Unfortunately most owners of great names are blind and deaf to reason. So whoever owns naturalbeauty.com now: congrats on a great deal!

shameless self promotion

MrOriginal · Oct 28, 2017

DASHCAMCLIPS said:
Way more. If I would have been asked to develop it a name like that would have created an income of 9,999 USD in a matter of weeks. Development is for 99% in the name itself, and a name where obviously you can target every woman on this planet with is a dream of every person in my industry.

Unfortunately most owners of great names are blind and deaf to reason. So whoever owns naturalbeauty.com now: congrats on a great deal!

While a great name definitely delivers an initial message, there is no way to say that the name would make the site, especially this point: "...a name like that would have created an income of 9,999 USD in a matter of weeks.".

The site won't make any money without good content, proper marketing, etc.

J.R. · Oct 28, 2017

The buyer held the domain for nearly 10 years, after investing $65K. Likely, they bought it and thought the domain was a liquid asset/easy flip; this would have been right at the beginning of the Great Recession 2008-2010. So, maybe they invested all they had at that time in the domain; maybe lost a job or saw some sort of loss of income. Personally, I'd have never paid $65K for a two word domain of that nature without direct commercial meaning. So, this was probably not a seasoned domainer either.

I've seen Esitbot valued $1 million+ generic domains sold for $35K-$50k on Namejet auctions in the two years I have been speculating. This domain speculator probably thought they would get the domain, send off an email to Maybeline, and they would offer $250K or more. It didn't happen, and they were debt heavy and cash low and sold at a firesale rate or had simply contact every likely end user since 2008 and received $5k-$10k offer. Domain speculation is a easy way to get rich or go broke very quickly.

I'd bet the 2008 registrant took most or all of their bankroll and bought that domain in 2008.

SpareDomains · Oct 28, 2017

Kate said:
Good name, but it was bought at end user price then resold at reseller price. That's the problem.

+1

carob · Oct 28, 2017

A lot of sites do actually have naturalbeauty in the domain - try searching this: inurl:naturalbeauty
You find stuff like naturalbeautyslimming.com and even hyphenated combos like organic- and -salon, and then cc stuff like .de and .ch

But none of those sites look like they have had a lot of investment - possibly for big players this is a subcategory.

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