status-review Potentially Illegal Activity

wwwweb said:

Wait are you Oliver Hoger?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/avv-net.1039778/

VIRTUAL ESTATE, LLC
VIRTUAL REAL ESTATE LIMITED

I remember seeing your name quite a bit during the namejet shill bidding saga

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I thought DomainNameBroker.com was Yakov? But come to think of it, DNB always refers to themselves as 'we'.

Regarding Avv.net: It was sold by this NJ account: http://www.namejet.com/featuredauctions/34coms

The winning bidder was: DevDog (second high bidder was surprise surprise HKDN)

Note: I checked a few auctions recently won by DevDog, and WHOIS updated to a Darren M.

Public WHOIS History

DomainNameBroker.com said:

We do not engage in shill bidding.

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@wwwweb didn't ask if you engaged in shill bidding.

Grilled said:

I thought DomainNameBroker.com was Yakov? But come to think of it, DNB also refers to themselves as 'we'.

Regarding Avv.net
It was sold by this NJ account: http://www.namejet.com/featuredauctions/34coms

The winning bidder was: DevDog (second high bidder was surprise surprise HKDN)

Note: I checked a few auctions recently won by DevDog, and WHOIS updated to a Darren M.

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@wwwweb didn't ask if you engaged in shill bidding.

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I know but the current whois is showing Virtual Estate LLC as the owners. I have no idea who Darren M is, just going by current whois.

wwwweb said:

I know but the current whois is showing Virtual Estate LLC as the owners. I have no idea who Darren M is, just going by current whois.

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I don't know who Darren M is either. I'm just pointing out that according to a few other NJ auctions won by DevDog, WHOIS updates to Darren M.

I'm out of DomainTools Historical WHOIS for this month. Otherwise I would check for a more complete historical WHOIS. Without it, the question remains, how did the domain go from Virtual Real Estate LTD to Virtual Real Estate LLC if other domains won by DevDog update to Darren M? A more complete WHOIS could help answer that. Until then, or clarification from DNB, I will refrain from making assumptions.

what is this thread???

Grilled said:

I don't know who Darren M is either. I'm just pointing out that according to a few other NJ auctions won by DevDog, WHOIS updates to Darren M.

I'm out of DomainTools Historical WHOIS for this month. Otherwise I would check for a more complete historical WHOIS. Without it, the question remains, how did the domain go from Virtual Real Estate LTD to Virtual Real Estate LLC if other domains won by DevDog update to Darren M? A more complete WHOIS could help answer that. Until then, or clarification from DNB, I will refrain from making assumptions.

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I have seen the devdog name quite a bit bidding around namejet, seems fub.net is attached to his whois

wwwweb said:

I have seen the devdog name quite a bit bidding around namejet, seems fub.net is attached to his whois

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There is an update on the AVV WHOIS that suggests a 7 September 2017 update. Though, I'm not sure how reliable WHOXY update dates are. Still, this leaves room that it was transferred / pushed out of another account given the last sale date was July 8th.

According to NameBio, the domain sold twice on NameJet...

Except looking back at the auction link, the 2010 auction was apparently cancelled.

Funny how both these domains were sold in 12-2010 at namejet, then relisted for sale at namejet 7 years later

fub.net 1,215 USD 2017-10-04 NameJet
fub.net 793 USD 2017-05-20 NameJet
fub.net 590 USD 2010-12-03 NameJet

wwwweb said:

fub.net 1,215 USD 2017-10-04 NameJet

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Winner: DevDog
It was sold from this account: http://www.namejet.com/featuredauctions/hotdotnets
Auction Link: http://www.namejet.com/Pages/Auctions/StandardDetails.aspx?auctionid=3982646

wwwweb said:

fub.net 793 USD 2017-05-20 NameJet

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Winner: WorkMail
It was sold from this account: http://www.namejet.com/featuredauctions/34coms
Auction Link: http://www.namejet.com/Pages/Auctions/StandardDetails.aspx?auctionid=3928110

wwwweb said:

fub.net 590 USD 2010-12-03 NameJet

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I don't know who won this auction, but it is interesting to see how many orders were placed in 2010 remained for the most recent 2017 auction (12 days ago)

http://www.namejet.com/Pages/Auctions/StandardDetails.aspx?auctionid=3982646

Looking at domains sold in both NJ Account:
http://www.namejet.com/featuredauctions/34coms [auctioned Fub.net May 2017]
http://www.namejet.com/featuredauctions/hotdotnets [auctioned Fub.net October 2017]

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My first question, is are these NJ accounts both owned by the same person?

Grilled said:

Winner: DevDog
It was sold from this account: http://www.namejet.com/featuredauctions/hotdotnets
Auction Link: http://www.namejet.com/Pages/Auctions/StandardDetails.aspx?auctionid=3982646

Winner: WorkMail
It was sold from this account: http://www.namejet.com/featuredauctions/34coms
Auction Link: http://www.namejet.com/Pages/Auctions/StandardDetails.aspx?auctionid=3928110


I don't know who won this auction, but it is interesting to see how many orders were placed in 2010 remained for the most recent 2017 auction (12 days ago)

http://www.namejet.com/Pages/Auctions/StandardDetails.aspx?auctionid=3982646
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My first question, is are these NJ accounts both owned by the same person?

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You will never get a straight answer from namejet

The borg that created this must be returned for a reboot and upgrade. Data computes to rhetoric from 1951 based on fear mongering propaganda launched in 1937. Ordo ab Chao. Original post does not compute to authentic truth and awareness of actuality.

In the information age - truth and common sense are making a comeback!

Pharmacologically speaking - Cannabis is not a narcotic.

If you wish to assimilate a much richer, complete database on the cannabis plant begin reading here: http://jackherer.com/emperor-3/chapter-1/


Plus, anyone who knows the agenda of Donald Trump knows he wants to reduce the consumption of the most abused NARCOTIC - opiates.

Does this mean you plan to go after Big Pharma companies such as Bayer or Merck???? ... as they have overplayed their profit driven corporate agenda to the point of devil status - which isn't exactly a secret.


Also Trump doesn't have much patience for the Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, HRC Pedophile cartel - although your client may be in bed with branches of this crew.

Perhaps before you reboot and upgrade your computational clarity, you may want to do a supreme purge of sorts...a fast, a cleanse, a coffee enema...

Anything you need to do to remove the toxins and impurities before you begin to refill your information banks with information free of the hidden agendas that have been duping ordinary people for over 500 years.

Grilled said:

My first question, is are these NJ accounts both owned by the same person?

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wwwweb said:

You will never get a straight answer from namejet

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NameJet Account: HotDotNets
Amount of Domains: 227 (currently listed)
Virtual Real Estate Limited: 206
WHOIS Privacy: 21

NameJet Account: 34Coms
Amount of Domains: 267 (currently listed)
Virtual Real Estate LTD: Over 100
WHOIS PRIVACY: 30+
UnConfirmed: Quite a bit

I'm too tired to finish checking account 34Coms, but after seeing over 100 domains in that NJ seller account belonging to Virtual Real Estate, it appears that Oliver Hoger (Virtual Real Estate LTD) is using both 34Coms and HotDotNets as NameJet seller accounts.

Grilled said:

NameJet Account: HotDotNets
Amount of Domains: 227 (currently listed)
Virtual Real Estate Limited: 206
WHOIS Privacy: 21

NameJet Account: 34Coms
Amount of Domains: 267 (currently listed)
Virtual Real Estate LTD: Over 100
WHOIS PRIVACY: 30+
UnConfirmed: Quite a bit

I'm too tired to finish checking account 34Coms, but after seeing over 100 domains in that NJ seller account belonging to Virtual Real Estate, it appears that Oliver Hoger (Virtual Real Estate LTD) is using both 34Coms and HotDotNets as NameJet seller accounts.

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Wow, Great job in doing the backend work to cover that.

dordomai said:

what is this thread???

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It's a great advert for what fun you can have when you mix weed and domains, and forget to take your bipolar meds.

Compassion said:

Also Trump doesn't have much patience for the Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, HRC Pedophile cartel - although your client may be in bed with branches of this crew.

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Well, that's not true. You can hop in the political thread and check out what he said about his own daughter, video supplied. He's a pervert. You can just watch the 3 videos in this post - https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-532#post-6394666

Epstein, Trump said of him:

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump said of Epstein during a 2002 interview with New York magazine. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

Friends with Weinstein as well

JB Lions said:

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You are indeed right, ALL THE SAME CREW...

However, Trump does seem to at least draw the line at 18.


Same old bunch of 33 players playing the masses for fools as the play around on the world stage.

Ban this fkin spammer.

And why its allowed to reg names at NP with advert of their shitty websites?

what is wrong with him - is he on a crusade to take all the fun out of things, maybe a short circuit or something,

or is he just looking for attention

wwwweb said:

Wait are you Oliver Hoger?
https://www.namepros.com/threads/avv-net.1039778/
VIRTUAL ESTATE, LLC
VIRTUAL REAL ESTATE LIMITED
I remember seeing your name quite a bit during the namejet shill bidding saga

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DomainNameBroker.com said:

We do not engage in shill bidding.

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Grilled said:

I thought DomainNameBroker.com was Yakov? But come to think of it, DNB always refers to themselves as 'we'.

Regarding Avv.net: It was sold by this NJ account: http://www.namejet.com/featuredauctions/34coms

The winning bidder was: DevDog (second high bidder was surprise surprise HKDN)

Note: I checked a few auctions recently won by DevDog, and WHOIS updated to a Darren M.

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@wwwweb didn't ask if you engaged in shill bidding.

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wwwweb said:

I know but the current whois is showing Virtual Estate LLC as the owners. I have no idea who Darren M is, just going by current whois.

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Grilled said:

I don't know who Darren M is either. I'm just pointing out that according to a few other NJ auctions won by DevDog, WHOIS updates to Darren M.

I'm out of DomainTools Historical WHOIS for this month. Otherwise I would check for a more complete historical WHOIS. Without it, the question remains, how did the domain go from Virtual Real Estate LTD to Virtual Real Estate LLC if other domains won by DevDog update to Darren M? A more complete WHOIS could help answer that. Until then, or clarification from DNB, I will refrain from making assumptions.

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Grilled said:

There is an update on the AVV WHOIS that suggests a 7 September 2017 update. Though, I'm not sure how reliable WHOXY update dates are. Still, this leaves room that it was transferred / pushed out of another account given the last sale date was July 8th.

According to NameBio, the domain sold twice on NameJet...
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Except looking back at the auction link, the 2010 auction was apparently cancelled.

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So it looks like I missed a sale. After it was sold by Oliver to DevDog on NJ, it sold to DomainNameBroker on NamePros HERE

Apparently, Olivers broker Promo just bought the domain on NamePros from DomainNameBroker by posting Sold in this make offer thread HERE To recap, it appears this domain went from Oliver to DevDog to DomainNameBroker.

I'm not suggesting this is illegal. Simply adding more details to the previous question of is virtual estate affiliated with virtual real estate.