domain I'm out ........ - AaCanvas.com

GeorgeQuang · Oct 16, 2017

Hi guys,
I'm a newcomer. I decided to become a full-time Domainer this year ( i knew about Domain Industry before, reg some like hobby but since Jan-2018, i started to build my own portfolio like a domainer)
So i started to learn, buying and selling names.
I've spent over $13,000

to build my portfolio and i'm increasing my budget day by day.
I've worked day to night in last 288 days without vacations and day offs.
I just bought "good names" that reach my criteria, so my portfolio is too small ( 530 domains).

But today, i feel too tired then i decided to look back what i've done and ... sleep earlier ( i live in Southeast Asia so i have to work at night, too tired you know

).
Then i just thought that why i didn't post my portfolio and ask other domainers about it.
I hope that i'm doing right.
My portfolio is below,
So what do you think ?
AaCanvas.com
AbcClasses.com
AbcDiaper.com
AbcGmbh.com
AbcTyres.com
AceDrinks.com
ADecorator.com
AdmiralGas.com
AdnMarketing.com
AfLegal.com
AhCatering.com
AideTech.com
AiFactor.com
AiFee.com
AiLeasing.com
AirConfort.com
AirFroid.com
AiStartup.com
AiWholesale.com
AkAdvisory.com
Aktivia.com
AlcoholInc.com
AlefGroup.com
AlohaCourier.com
AlohaDriving.com
AlPlant.com
AltiusGroup.com
AlVicolo.com
AngAuto.com
AngelGym.com
AngryDesign.com
ApexDrone.com
ApolloAc.com
ApolloDj.com
AppleCourier.com
AppleLearning.com
Aqua.Solar
AquaKomfort.com
AquaRoofing.com
ArchitekturPur.com
ArrowC.com
ArrowCafe.com
AsterPrint.com
AtlasKitchen.com
AuroraPrint.com
AvatarHealing.com
AviatorSchool.com
AxisControl.com
BakerDev.com
BalanceProductions.com
BaliHut.com
BambooEvents.com
BankCoaching.com
Bankix.com
Base.Care
BeeHousing.com
BeerCapital.com
BellQ.com
BeyondHotel.com
BiogreenTech.com
BisonStudio.com
BlueBirdCoffee.com
BlueskyEstate.com
BMentor.com
BoltonPhysio.com
BonsaiHub.com
BoomSeo.com
BotChien.com
BowCompany.com
BProjekt.com
BServis.com
BuffaloBio.com
ButtonFly.com
CafeHaven.com
CafeTower.com
CalendarKing.com
CanaryDesign.com
CannonCompany.com
CapitalAbc.com
CapitalFellow.com
CarbonKnife.com
CargoLane.com
CarrotRiver.com
Cavitas.com
ChartEnergy.com
ChiefCoffee.com
ChiefProperty.com
ChristelClear.com
CitrineGroup.com
CkEvent.com
CManor.com
CoachingC.com
CollagenCare.com
CompassFreight.com
CookStorage.com
CoolBridge.com
CoteRotie.com
CowboyIT.com
CowboySteak.com
CpElec.com
CpInspections.com
CreaService.com
CreativeDj.com
CrImpianti.com
CsBroker.com
CubTech.com
CupAdvertising.com
CyberHerbalist.com
CyborgTax.com
Cyperts.com
DailyHosting.com
DaisyStudio.com
DazzlingDental.com
DecoEspacios.com
DefenceFire.com
DeHall.com
DekorMetal.com
DeltaGraphix.com
DeltaPersonal.com
DenimBank.com
DerbyPrinting.com
DesiLounge.com
DieselManager.com
DJanssen.com
DjDiscount.com
DjGuru.com
DjRobson.com
DjTim.com
DkBuild.com
DozoSushi.com
DragonTowing.com
DrJacques.com
DroneSparrow.com
DrSanjay.com
DsDoor.com
DukePub.com
Dynamic.Solar
EaPainting.com
EdenEscort.com
EdenPaper.com
EdSecurity.com
Ekskurs.com
EmpireWash.com
EnergyCaptain.com
EuroBead.com
EuroPapel.com
EventMentor.com
ExcelBio.com
ExcelClean.com
ExcelInterior.com
ExecutiveVa.com
ExplosionMedia.com
FactionX.com
FactoringPro.com
FenixServices.com
FhMetal.com
FisioHealth.com
FixFoto.com
FloralHub.com
FloralPros.com
FlowMakers.com
FoodAgencies.com
FordProperty.com
ForexFighter.com
FortComputer.com
FoxDentist.com
FoxMining.com
FoxWhistle.com
FpLegal.com
FrigoExpress.com
FujiFoto.com
FutureLawn.com
GalacticSolar.com
GamaConsult.com
GardeningArt.com
GasAdvertising.com
GateCargo.com
GatewayInfo.com
GcPainting.com
GeckoGraphix.com
GetPharmacy.com
GetTaco.com
GingerExpress.com
GlennDesign.com
GloryHr.com
GloryPearl.com
GoFactoring.com
GoldAdv.com
GoodBranch.com
GrCleaning.com
GreenLeo.com
GregoryHotel.com
Grupex.com
GrupoService.com
GryphonSystems.com
GtCleaning.com
GuruComputers.com
GuruHr.com
HarnessGroup.com
HarvestPr.com
HealthyWind.com
HearingHouse.com
HelixPro.com
HelloFix.com
HeronSolutions.com
HiCleaner.com
HidroFix.com
HighPr.com
HighwayFitness.com
HiltonStudio.com
HimalayanHorse.com
HitechWelding.com
HMountain.com
HolaHolidays.com
HolaRestaurant.com
HotGrafix.com
HrEntrepreneur.com
HrPrime.com
Humangest.com
Hymatic.com
ibisTech.com
iGeotech.com
iKlean.com
ilPecorino.com
immoProx.com
inetLLC.com
infinityNurse.com
inlandBusiness.com
innovaGestion.com
innSense.com
inoxColor.com
IQManagement.com
isFurniture.com
isofol.com
isralux.com
italiaHome.com
itaLift.com
ITDesert.com
ITGrupa.com
ITSirius.com
JadeSource.com
JavaInterior.com
JBrazil.com
JdAudio.com
JgFlooring.com
JhBuilding.com
JoyInvestment.com
JsEvent.com
JuliaSalon.com
JungleIt.com
JustPhysio.com
KaboomMedia.com
Kaimex.com
KalinkaShop.com
KartonTech.com
KathyRealty.com
KInterior.com
KiwiWifi.com
KoolEffect.com
KsEnglish.com
KWholesale.com
LancasterPrint.com
Landmark.Properties
LavaCosmetics.com
Laxford.com
LCargo.com
LcConsultores.com
LeadCreative.com
LeaderCleaning.com
LeelaYoga.com
LemonHotels.com
LiberoCapital.com
LightningHorse.com
LionApartments.com
LionBrands.com
LittleFlorist.com
Llanura.com
LogCentre.com
LogicalGreen.com
LondonSalon.com
LotusHr.com
LovelyMix.com
LTruck.com
LuckyTextile.com
LuxeStone.com
LuxurySun.com
ManagementC.com
MandalaHotel.com
Mandarinka.com
MangoEstate.com
MangoStyle.com
MapleServices.com
Marinspect.com
MarketingCv.com
MarketplaceLLC.com
MarkMarine.com
MartianFood.com
MatrixAs.com
MaxxOnline.com
MayaKitchen.com
MbClean.com
MbMarine.com
MCarpentry.com
McPrinter.com
MdDev.com
MediaAnimal.com
MedicalR.com
MedicationX.com
MedicMarketing.com
MelangeCafe.com
MenuWarehouse.com
MercuryTour.com
MeritHotel.com
MeritHouse.com
MgPack.com
MhElec.com
MhGolf.com
MhSafety.com
MidasDigital.com
MilitaryClean.com
MillerWealth.com
MindMaxx.com
MmAutoservice.com
MmMotor.com
MMoving.com
MonalisaSpa.com
MonocleMedia.com
MoonSrl.com
MooseIt.com
MooseTour.com
MotelHighway.com
MpMarine.com
MPrestige.com
MrPlast.com
MustangBuilder.com
MustangOil.com
Navitext.com
NavyCab.com
NelsonTravel.com
NewtechEnergy.com
NexusCoaching.com
NkDental.com
NordCity.com
NordicActive.com
NordicConsult.com
NormalRobot.com
NpAgency.com
NwCarpentry.com
OaktreeTech.com
OasisStone.com
OCharm.com
OdinDesign.com
OkCondom.com
Okomat.com
OldPlanet.com
OnoDesign.com
OptimumDev.com
OracleCreative.com
OrchidClothing.com
OrchidServices.com
OrchidWeddings.com
OrissaTour.com
OsWiki.com
OverallOffice.com
OwlTrade.com
OzFlooring.com
OzWood.com
PandaWood.com
PanoramaPro.com
PapersKing.com
PapillonHome.com
ParamountPt.com
PastureReader.com
PattayaCondo.com
PbConcept.com
PenguinDrone.com
PetroEng.com
PetSetter.com
PhoenixBook.com
PhoenixMusical.com
PhoenixSea.com
PianoBoutique.com
PilotCreative.com
PinkElefant.com
PixxelDesign.com
PlanningExpert.com
PlasticWay.com
PolarBearAir.com
PotatoX.com
PottyPlant.com
PpTraining.com
PremiumFighter.com
PremiumSoda.com
PrinterFarm.com
Pristinus.com
PromoTrading.com
PsInfotech.com
PublixMedia.com
PyramidSound.com
Qualisat.com
QuantumLeaf.com
QuarryCottage.com
QuikCool.com
QwertyX.com
RadiusX.com
RageEnergy.com
RainAcademy.com
RaintreeHouse.com
RaphaelHotels.com
RcImpianti.com
RealLandscape.com
RealtorHero.com
RebelRecording.com
RedbrickGroup.com
RhTraining.com
RigSearch.com
RkImaging.com
RobotAnimation.com
RollingR.com
RoninIt.com
RosesBeauty.com
RpEnergy.com
RTailor.com
RubikSolutions.com
SaHunting.com
SakuraIT.com
SamDecor.com
SardiniaWine.com
ScAdvisors.com
SeoGoddess.com
SgChemical.com
SgEquipment.com
ShackDesign.com
SharonFloral.com
SharonTravel.com
ShiningKnights.com
ShreeComputer.com
SimonCar.com
SimplyCorp.com
SingSpace.com
SiriusC.com
SiriusTraining.com
SLandscape.com
SmartLands.com
SmsStore.com
SmWedding.com
SolarJungle.com
SolarSrl.com
SolidLtd.com
SphinxStore.com
SpringHerb.com
SsHolidays.com
StarCottage.com
StBroker.com
SteelH.com
SteelTooling.com
Stohos.com
StoneAnalysis.com
StoneFactor.com
StudioBalans.com
StudioMontreal.com
Sultanex.com
SumoSearch.com
SunHardware.com
SunKnight.com
SunnyGlass.com
SunriseDairy.com
Sunzet.com
SuperEscorts.com
SuperPt.com
SuperWhippy.com
SuriTravel.com
SurreyWindows.com
SurveyMinds.com
SushiFox.com
Synolex.com
Syscona.com
SzTaxi.com
TacticalEnergy.com
TaxHunter.com
TaxiAdv.com
TaxiSweden.com
TCompass.com
TerraPainting.com
TerraWall.com
TgPlumbing.com
ThBearing.com
TibetanHealing.com
TimberServices.com
TimTravel.com
TnDental.com
TradeKraft.com
TrailPoint.com
TresChique.com
Treverk.com
Tritonex.com
UkShelving.com
UniqueColor.com
UniqueGraphic.com
UsaInfotech.com
VelvetEscorts.com
VenusTile.com
VertPro.com
VictoriaCab.com
VictoryKnight.com
VikingInk.com
VikingTrans.com
VillageGuru.com
VirtualEnter.com
VistaHr.com
VivaWood.com
VNurture.com
VoltTec.com
VrBolt.com
VrEdit.com
VWoods.com
WBaker.com
WeedBrush.com
Wellinn.com
WestwindGlobal.com
WestwoodCondo.com
WildAudio.com
WindpowerLLC.com
WolfPt.com
XCowboy.com
XPackaging.com
XpertOffice.com
XyzServices.com
YesEngineering.com
ZeusHoldings.com
ZipLog.com

GeorgeQuang · Oct 16, 2017

Kate said:
I disagree that your portfolio "is too small".
No, I think you have too many domains. Some are OK and you should make a few sales. But it is not certain you will make enough sales to cover the renewal fee year after year...
That's the unfortunate quandary of domainers: making sales but still losing money, thus operating at a loss...

Yes, diversification is important. But there has to be consistency too. Those regs seem to be all over the place, but I am not in your shoes and in your head.
Now if you're not making sales after one year, you should step back and review your strategy, not spend even more money. This is like slot machine addiction, always spending more for the gratification of a small win.

Many newbies say they buy regfee domains because they cannot afford to buy on the aftermarket. They want to build a big portfolio and they think more domains will increase the odds of a sale. That is quite incorrect, if you have low quality domains, you will struggle to sell. What I want is to scale back and have fewer domains, but increase average quality.
And then, when you look back at the money spent you realize it could have been spent on just a few quality domains.

I think domainers need to be very brutal, not fall in love with their domains. They should look at their domains like liabilities by default and not assets. So don't be afraid to trim the portfolio. The worst case scenario is to drop everything, but then you save 10K/year. If you have a disposable income of 10K/year you can buy some good domains.
(I am not saying you should drop them all, but if you want to retain them ask yourself why. There has to be good reasons).

Thanks for your advise, buddy.
I remember that you gave me the same advise in another thread.
But i still doing my way.
If i just follow people here, i just become the same guys like them.
If you want to become a special one, you must do the different ways
I always dream BIG, and let's see.
Hoping that i'm on right way.

Bonsu · Oct 16, 2017

I won't take that name

GeorgeQuang said:
He gave me sportswearpalace.com which just reg in 2015 with no potential buyers.
Do you think that i should follow his advise? If yes, congrat! You just throw your money out of the window.

alcy · Oct 16, 2017

GeorgeQuang said:
Thanks for your advise, buddy.
I remember that you gave me the same advise in another thread.
But i still doing my way.
If i just follow people here, i just become the same guys like them.
If you want to become a special one, you must do the different ways
I always dream BIG, and let's see.
Hoping that i'm on right way.

lol

so what are you doing asking for advise of others then ? hehe

gl anyway
ciao

GeorgeQuang · Oct 16, 2017

alcy said:
lol

so what are you doing asking for advise of others then ? hehe

gl anyway
ciao

Sometimes, you must sit and hear what people thinking, then change your strategy.
He give me a great advise to downsite my portfolio. But i think different.
But if you give me some names that i should deleted them, i will hear and consider.
Or you can give me some advise about the budget, is it high or low ? then i will change my budget plan in the future.
That's the purpose of this thread. That's it.

Criterion811 · Oct 16, 2017

My thoughts exactly @alcy ...

You've countered or rejected almost all the advice you've been given which you asked for.

wwwweb · Oct 16, 2017

GeorgeQuang said:
I'm awaitting for you to create the same portfolio as mine with only 4-6K. When you complete, please tag me in your notify thread.

$4-6K could be done pre 2011 I would say, before Huge Domains starting sucking everything up. It could be done with the fasthosts $1 deal also, if you were really keen with fresh registrations. Your portfolio is that of a grinder, you have to grind these $1-3K sales type domains out, of these funds you buy new domains, and pay for renewals. Here is the thing eventually you will enter a dryspell, and when you oversell your good inventory, spend your money buying fresh inventory, and have a hundreds of renewals come up it all starts to fall apart.

I understand you trying to get higher counters on the $800-$1500 offers, you should always try, I would try to engage those buyers back at some of those numbers again to see if they bite.

You say you don't take vacations, and work away, you have to value that opportunity cost from your sales, it has a price.

GeorgeQuang · Oct 16, 2017

Criterion811 said:
My thoughts exactly @alcy ...

You've countered or rejected almost all the advice you've been given which you asked for.

If i'm not answer or counter almost your posts, you can think that "Oh he create a dumb thread then run" like some guy typed their shit comment with not advise like this. So i will answer or counter as many as i can, that's my pleasure.
You said that i rejected almost advises, but please, read carefully before you type, there are just 2 main advises :
1> I should downsite my portfolio ( it's not my plan, so i'm sorry to rejected, but i will consider to buy better name with higher price, not buy shit names).
2> the LandingPage is terrible : and yes, i agree. And every night i always dream that some day, i will have a stunning Market Place like BrandBucket.

GeorgeQuang · Oct 16, 2017

wwwweb said:
$4-6K could be done pre 2011 I would say, before Huge Domains starting sucking everything up. It could be done with the fasthosts $1 deal also, if you were really keen with fresh registrations. Your portfolio is that of a grinder, you have to grind these $1-3K sales type domains out, of these funds you buy new domains, and pay for renewals. Here is the thing eventually you will enter a dryspell, and when you oversell your good inventory, spend your money buying fresh inventory, and have a hundreds of renewals come up it all starts to fall apart.

I understand you trying to get higher counters on the $800-$1500 offers, you should always try, I would try to engage those buyers back at some of those numbers again to see if they bite.

You say you don't take vacations, and work away, you have to value that opportunity cost from your sales, it has a price.

Thanks buddy

If almost guys here can give me a gentle advise like you. I'm very happy.
But not, some guys just give me shits. And i don't know how their career in this industry is ?
Do they earn much money ? Or Domaining just a hobby for them ?
I really don't know.

Criterion811 · Oct 16, 2017

Fair comments George. I hope you will too, and do wish you every success. For now a uniregistry lander would be a great free choice

Good luck

Haris · Oct 16, 2017

Criterion811 said:
Fair comments George. I hope you will too, and do wish you every success. For now a uniregistry lander would be a great free choice

Good luck

Yeah I would recommend a Uni lander or a Bodis lander. Uni landers look better though. But make sure you self broker the domains and use Escrow.com instead of their in-house system.

GeorgeQuang · Oct 16, 2017

JB Lions said:
You posted how much you spent and the names but I'm more interested in how many names you've sold and for how much. Are any of these getting offers, etc.

Most people starting out and they post their domains, it's like a straight Horror Fest, this one is halfway decent. You have some nice brandables in the list, some potential.

Thanks to reviewed my portfolio, i appreciate it.

GeorgeQuang · Oct 16, 2017

mr-x said:
Now that have 500 names, do you have a plan to sell them?

Sometimes i do Outbound marketing, but almost time i just list them to After Market

urlurl · Oct 16, 2017

you do have a portfolio geared towards out bound sales calls - and it looks like you converted some coal in diamonds - good work

i couldn't comment on the portfolio as they are not my niche.

if it works stcik with it and good luck

GeorgeQuang · Oct 16, 2017

urlurl said:
you do have a portfolio geared towards out bound sales calls - and it looks like you converted some coal in diamonds - good work

i couldn't comment on the portfolio as they are not my niche.

if it works stcik with it and good luck

What a gentle advise.
Thanks so much

I will stick in what make profit and stay away the others

urlurl · Oct 16, 2017

if you are looking for some inventory hit me up with a PM

GeorgeQuang · Oct 16, 2017

Seems like this thread goes to an unexpected way once I and some newcomers had terrible comments.
I just thought that when i post my whole portfolio, all people here - who has more experience than me will give me advise. And yes, i get stunning advise for the Landing Page, for downsite my list, for continue my way. All of you - who give me advises are on my heart. It's my pleasure to get all of your advises.
But it's no need to continue this thread to determine who's right and who's wrong. I get enough advises.Time will answer.
Once again, so sorry for all unconvenient my thread causes.
Now, it's 5AM, i have to sleep. And i will delete this thread in the morning.
Good night guys

johnn · Oct 16, 2017

These are common mistakes from Newbies:
- Cheap registrars - End user will hesitate unless they are Godaddy
- Two words names: i.e. GuitarCancer.com, MaleLiquid.com, etc...which has no meaning
- BB - Means nothing to end users
- Estibot=MessMeBot - Means nothing to end users
- Monthly searches, Alexa, etc... non senses
- Buy cheap names - These names passes from one person to another and they will go no where
- Market Specific: VR, BitCoin, etc... You are limited your market

Spend more time to market your names rather than chit-chat in forums
List everywhere you can: Afternic, Godaddy, Sedo, etc...
If you don't have time then buy 3 letter .com, .net, .org or 4 letter names (NO CHIPS) - They are always in demand
Do not listen to Hype or Pump & Dump
Do not expect to sell your names here and make a profit - Find ways to sell to end users

These are just a few mistakes that I have learned in the past 15 years.

Haris · Oct 16, 2017

johnn said:
These are common mistakes from Newbies:
- Cheap registrars - End user will hesitate unless they are Godaddy
- Two words names: i.e. GuitarCancer.com, MaleLiquid.com, etc...which has no meaning
- BB - Means nothing to end users
- Estibot=MessMeBot - Means nothing to end users
- Monthly searches, Alexa, etc... non senses
- Buy cheap names - These names passes from one person to another and they will go no where
- Market Specific: VR, BitCoin, etc... You are limited your market

Spend more time to market your names rather than chit-chat in forums
List everywhere you can: Afternic, Godaddy, Sedo, etc...
If you don't have time then buy 3 letter .com, .net, .org or 4 letter names (NO CHIPS) - They are always in demand
Do not listen to Hype or Pump & Dump
Do not expect to sell your names here and make a profit - Find ways to sell to end users

These are just a few mistakes that I have learned in the past 15 years.

Your best post since Oct 5, 2003

Thanks

johnn · Oct 16, 2017

FYI - My recent sales - This month
- LLL.org $2,000 - Cost $280
- Generic .com $1,000 - Hand registered
- A couple of LLL.us - $500-$1,000 a piece - Cost $5-$15 a piece - I bought them here. Yes I own several hundred LLL names.

Hemanttilotia · Oct 16, 2017

You misled ppl with the title

Go, get a life ! !

Kpett · Oct 16, 2017

With a post tile of "I'm out ..." you'd think George was done with domaining, as per another recent post. But he admits he misled the forum with his title, doesn't take advice that is given, and in the end is just going to keep doing what he was doing. So what was the point? (I'm only adding this comment to keep others from doing the same!)

EmotiveDomains · Oct 16, 2017

Create a thread with any title you like, then just post all your domains to promote them while pretending you wanted advice. NamePros really needs a spam filter.

Haris · Oct 16, 2017

EmotiveDomains said:
Create a thread with any title you like, then just post all your domains to promote them while pretending you wanted advice. NamePros really needs a spam filter.

most of these domains are good for end-users only, domainers won't show any interest unless they do their research on each and every domain. + the OP already said that he isn't selling them to domainers. And i believe him.

With that said, using that clickbait title was a huge mistake by him.

@GeorgeQuang you can still change title

alcy · Oct 16, 2017

Kpett said:
With a post tile of "I'm out ..." you'd think George was done with domaining, as per another recent post. But he admits he misled the forum with his title, doesn't take advice that is given, and in the end is just going to keep doing what he was doing. So what was the point? (I'm only adding this comment to keep others from doing the same!)

there is no point in trying to keep others from making this comment.

GeorgeQuang · Oct 17, 2017

johnn said:
These are common mistakes from Newbies:
- Cheap registrars - End user will hesitate unless they are Godaddy
- Two words names: i.e. GuitarCancer.com, MaleLiquid.com, etc...which has no meaning
- BB - Means nothing to end users
- Estibot=MessMeBot - Means nothing to end users
- Monthly searches, Alexa, etc... non senses
- Buy cheap names - These names passes from one person to another and they will go no where
- Market Specific: VR, BitCoin, etc... You are limited your market

Spend more time to market your names rather than chit-chat in forums
List everywhere you can: Afternic, Godaddy, Sedo, etc...
If you don't have time then buy 3 letter .com, .net, .org or 4 letter names (NO CHIPS) - They are always in demand
Do not listen to Hype or Pump & Dump
Do not expect to sell your names here and make a profit - Find ways to sell to end users

These are just a few mistakes that I have learned in the past 15 years.

100% exactly. I used to use Estibot to determine which one i should reg or bought =)).

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