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opinion If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed

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Colin Campbell

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I am amazed at how many times I see a hosting company, blogger, or domain investor refer to "the legacy" domains as if they have been anointed by some higher power. Fast forward 100 years from now and I can't imagine someone saying pick a .org over a .club because it is a legacy tld. I can foresee a time where someone might say pick a .org because it is a not for profit, or a .club because it is a member site about a passion, hobby, or buying club.

There is, I admit, at this stage much greater mindshare for legacy tld's like .org and .net. Yet there also a number of legacy tld's that have not performed as well as .club.

Based on Alexa top 1 million sites (as of today):

.Mobi has 662 sites
.travel has 184 sites
.asia has 407 sites
.biz has 2948
.club has 2163 sites (after being out for just over 3 years)

How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed like all the other gTLDs?

Didn't think my high school required reading of Shakespeare would ever come in handy.

Colin Campbell,
CEO .CLUB Domains
 
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we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

Loved that line..totally agree about name (keyword and extension) and marketing
 
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yeah, 2160 or so, great.....here they are with their ranks
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263,kinogo.club
966,searchpro.club
1709,gidonline.club
1934,haa66855mo.club
2690,online-life.club
3033,rivolabets.club
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3378,dateoftheday.club
3449,ainder.club
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123117,fbpartner.club
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124238,couponsgiftspromotions.club
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981477,goodandsolidtoupgrade.club
982249,cdn10-network10-server8.club
982907,hirobook.club
984019,thehealthyliving.club
984212,cdn8-network68-server7.club
984222,lotus7.club
984823,cdn3-network23-server1.club
986081,cdn-network75-server7.club
986843,digex.club
987057,cdn-network100-server7.club
987192,maddys.club
988017,songfestival.club
988237,cdn1-network41-server9.club
988781,cdn9-network69-server6.club
988831,cdn5-network5-server7.club
988850,aggelies.club
988924,ecomprofit.club
989152,synergymining.club
989794,cdn8-network68-server4.club
990034,hotcreampie.club
991046,videoexpress.club
992560,scannerav.club
992686,businessonline.club
993100,inet-money.club
993223,cdn5-network35-server4.club
993326,dudeman.club
993796,woaisn.club
994203,theperfectcentralsys2updating.club
994369,pornblogs.club
994939,thepars.club
995334,otcg.club
995653,duhnsfw.club
995749,satokans.club
996882,maximalsystemforupgrade.club
997234,kotova.club
997481,creativecoding.club
997718,mevmoney.club
997864,cdn8-network28-server6.club
998293,cdn2-network12-server4.club
998318,smallandprecise4update.club
999120,nakedchicks.club
999427,krank.club
999600,cdn-network82-server10.club
999795,redbubble.club
only maybe 33 english one-"word" domains :hilarious: as far as I can tell
Code:
traffic.club
betting.club
chaos.club
robo.club
changes.club
interface.club
manuals.club
input.club
indigenous.club
restoring.club
freedman.club
vacancies.club
unblock.club
fireman.club
forester.club
battleground.club
modding.club
soundtracks.club
ivanka.club
bettors.club
cooch.club
lightyear.club
starlets.club
nominal.club
remixes.club
redial.club
undertow.club
divines.club
bootlegs.club
jurisprudence.club
bytecode.club
overhear.club
onanism.club
also,
125 look like this - cdn5-network65-server8.club
57 contain the string 'updat' (update/updating)
38 contain the string 'porn'
18 contain the string 'stream'
26 contain the string 'free'
17 contain the string 'virus'
45 contain the string 'upgrad'
33 contain the string 'movie'
18 contain the string 'torrent'
total: 377

maybe around 300 (14%) of them are probably not legitimate just based on the domains themselves. I wonder how many more are not legitimate but have innocent-looking SLDs.

how about "prick us, and we'll likely try to infect you"

another source, which I consider much more reliable than alexa's 'top million', still mostly shows weird domains.
 
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Maybe domainers' interests and registries' interests are not aligned after all.
 
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Fast forward 100 years from now, if by chance the world doesn't end, none of us would be alive so for us domain investors, what sells now or at most 5 years from now, is what we would consider a good investment.
 
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How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed like all the other gTLDs?

I am not a fan of most new extensions, though I will say .CLUB has done things a lot better than most.
You have the most regs of any extension that is not based on sheer non-sense registration volume.

With many other registries you have tiered pricing, absurd renewal costs, clawbacks, forced free registrations, and many other shenanigans.

Many of these other registries have had no problem screwing over domain investors, so I doubt there is much sympathy for them in general.

The sheer amount of new extensions released and greed by many of the operators is the major issue.

As far as mindshare, there is only so much room in the average consumers head. They know .COM/NET/ORG and have seen then in use for decades now. There is not mindshare available for thousands of new extensions.

Brad
 
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I am amazed at how many times I see a hosting company, blogger, or domain investor refer to "the legacy" domains as if they have been anointed by some higher power. Fast forward 100 years from now and I can't imagine someone saying pick a .org over a .club because it is a legacy tld. I can foresee a time where someone might say pick a .org because it is a not for profit, or a .club because it is a member site about a passion, hobby, or buying club.

There is, I admit, at this stage much greater mindshare for legacy tld's like .org and .net. Yet there also a number of legacy tld's that have not performed as well as .club.

Based on Alexa top 1 million sites (as of today):

.Mobi has 662 sites
.travel has 184 sites
.asia has 407 sites
.biz has 2948
.club has 2163 sites (after being out for just over 3 years)

How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed like all the other gTLDs?

Didn't think my high school required reading of Shakespeare would ever come in handy.

Colin Campbell,
CEO .CLUB Domains
I agree completely that it should be all about quality of extension, and all about the quality of particular domain name (how well keyword goes with the extension, and whether it makes good sense or not). New gTLDs can make fantastic and very powerful brands. As for .club, imo it is one of the best new gTLDs, and can form great domain names. I also like marketing activities, they can be an example for some other extensions/registries how it should be done, in the ideal case.

There are few people in the industry, and also on this forum, that are constantly bashing new gTLDs. They have probably a lot of time, as they produce hundreds of negative posts. Those posts are in many cases just wrong, with incomplete information, and they like to compare apples to oranges. Many of those people have actually no experience with new gTLDs at all (they do not own any). Imo the main reason is that some of them invested heavily in legacy domains, and some in ccTLDs. I can understand why they are not happy...if I would patiently build my portfolio over the years, I would be really unhappy to see such strong competition from hundreds of new extensions. But the fact is that the internet is evolving, and new extensions are here not only for domainers but mainly for end users. Their main purpose is to bring more options and choices for businesses and people.

Still, what I do not understand is that bashing - as I think it is not going to persuade anyone against new gTLDs. I think it would be better for those people to stop doing useless comparisons between new gTLDs and legacy extensions all the time, and to start thinking about how they can utilise new gTLDs, so they can actually profit from them, at least a bit :)
 
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Today there is no money in .club for anyone other than the registry - Fast forward 100 years and there is probably still no money left for anyone other than the registry
 
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number of legacy tld's that have not performed

Price stability: why is it important for you .club and the rest of ngtlds?

37% of .com in hands of domainers

Apart from the active involvement & great effort in promoting .club the price stability is the number one driver for the success - long term success. Today the price is $1, tomorrow $10, next monday $12, in a month renewal $15, is this premium, wait can't be .... if you get it right, it has a positive impact on your customer base and your bottom supporters called domainers.

Regards
 
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Brad states it well and even Colin admits where the mindshare is.

It is .com/.org/.net and ccTLDs. :)

There is, I admit, at this stage much greater mindshare for legacy tld's like .org and .net.

As far as mindshare, there is only so much room in the average consumers head. They know .COM/NET/ORG and have seen then in use for decades now. There is not mindshare available for thousands of new extensions.
 
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is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

More development and sales other than Registry is needed in the gTLD space.
 
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I am amazed at how many times I see a hosting company, blogger, or domain investor refer to "the legacy" domains as if they have been anointed by some higher power. Fast forward 100 years from now and I can't imagine someone saying pick a .org over a .club because it is a legacy tld. I can foresee a time where someone might say pick a .org because it is a not for profit, or a .club because it is a member site about a passion, hobby, or buying club.

There is, I admit, at this stage much greater mindshare for legacy tld's like .org and .net. Yet there also a number of legacy tld's that have not performed as well as .club.

Based on Alexa top 1 million sites (as of today):

.Mobi has 662 sites
.travel has 184 sites
.asia has 407 sites
.biz has 2948
.club has 2163 sites (after being out for just over 3 years)

How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed like all the other gTLDs?

Didn't think my high school required reading of Shakespeare would ever come in handy.

Colin Campbell,
CEO .CLUB Domains

I've said out of all the new ones, you're doing the best.

I've also said, new gtlds should not use Alexa to market themselves:

https://domainpunch.com/tlds/topgtlds.php

Go thru the .clubs or any of them. It's not pretty. wormfood went thru it above
 
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I am amazed at how many times I see a hosting company, blogger, or domain investor refer to "the legacy" domains as if they have been anointed by some higher power. Fast forward 100 years from now and I can't imagine someone saying pick a .org over a .club because it is a legacy tld. I can foresee a time where someone might say pick a .org because it is a not for profit, or a .club because it is a member site about a passion, hobby, or buying club.

There is, I admit, at this stage much greater mindshare for legacy tld's like .org and .net. Yet there also a number of legacy tld's that have not performed as well as .club.

Based on Alexa top 1 million sites (as of today):

.Mobi has 662 sites
.travel has 184 sites
.asia has 407 sites
.biz has 2948
.club has 2163 sites (after being out for just over 3 years)

How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed like all the other gTLDs?

Didn't think my high school required reading of Shakespeare would ever come in handy.

Colin Campbell,
CEO .CLUB Domains


gosh looks like .mobi was a great investement
oops I dropped them all about 10 years ago
same for .biz

mhm you never know
can't avoid to make mistakes


but you can lean and try not to repeat

so I do not own a .club
as far as I know

that fact doesn't ruin my sleep



just sold .us
not bad of a tld at all for some purposes

or now I like it better then .club at least
 
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gosh looks like .mobi was a great investement
oops I dropped them all about 10 years ago

just sold .us
not bad of a tld at all for some purposes

I recently sold 420(.)mobi for $999. (My only .mobi ever owned)

Its not that .mobi doesn't sell. Clearly, they do. But these sales aren't commonly in the 4 to 6 figure range as initially expected at launch. Nor were they adopted by the general public to meet investors initial expectation. Does this mean .club will repeat .mobi history?

With that said, what's the better domain 420(.)Club or 420.(.)Mobi? Personally, I like 420(.)club more. (And this is coming from somebody who doesn't own any .Club domains)

I see these new tlds more like domain hacks than anything else. If the hack makes sense, and a business or service can be built on it, then why shouldn't it have value? (I understand the value maydecrease if it's assigned a premium renewal, as cost of owbership year over year would be greater than dot com ownership per $9 renewals)
 
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I recently sold 420(.)mobi for $999. (My only .mobi ever owned)

Its not that .mobi doesn't sell. Clearly, they do. But these sales aren't commonly in the 4 to 6 figure range as initially expected at launch. Nor were they adopted by the general public to meet investors initial expectation. Does this mean .club will repeat .mobi history?

With that said, what's the better domain 420(.)Club or 420.(.)Mobi? Personally, I like 420(.)club more. (And this is coming from somebody who doesn't own any .Club domains)

I see these new tlds more like domain hacks than anything else. If the hack makes sense, and a business or service can be built on it, then why shouldn't it have value? (I understand the value maydecrease if it's assigned a premium renewal, as cost of owbership year over year would be greater than dot com ownership per $9 renewals)


.mobi at least had a vision related to a new technology

.club is fine for clubs
but clubs are boring to me

yes I know I know nothing
 
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80% of Top 100 Highest .club Domain Buyers Leave Parked, Redirected, or Failing DNS

https://www.strategicrevenue.com/80...uyers-leave-parked-redirected-or-failing-dns/

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http://www.hosterstats.com/club-website-usage-survey.php

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.CLUB is one of the few new TLDs which I believe makes sense from a branding vantage point.

However, one thing that has always bothered me about new TLDs are the reported registry sales where the buyer pays a considerable price for the "premium" keyword, the sale gets reported on DNJournal, the sale gets a lot of publicity in the domaining community and then the buyer does not even use the domain to brand its business.

Does anyone care to elaborate why LENDING.CLUB which reportedly sold for $25,000 does not even resolve?
 
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a club to me is something exclusive
like a british gents club

so its natural that it is costly

and so its natural - I have to pass on that tld
 
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How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed like all the other gTLDs?

A solid reply:
With many other registries you have tiered pricing, absurd renewal costs, clawbacks, forced free registrations, and many other shenanigans.

The sheer amount of new extensions released and greed by many of the operators is the major issue.

As far as mindshare, there is only so much room in the average consumers head. They know .COM/NET/ORG and have seen then in use for decades now. There is not mindshare available for thousands of new extensions.

What say you, Operator?
 
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Some people have a more focused view of the domain name market, Colin.
Unfortunately that view does not extend outside the Domaining business.

The phrase "Legacy TLD" means different things to different people. To people like myself who categorise usage and markets, it generally means the older gTLDs that are being overtaken by ccTLDs and some other older TLDs. It is common to describe a TLD where demand has collapsed or plateaued in a market as having gone Legacy. This means that the new registrations are barely making up for deletions or the TLD is beginning to lose market share. What happens at a country level when the ccTLD begins to take off is that its growth eclipses that of .COM in that market and the non-core TLDs such as .NET/ORG/BIZ/INFO become a lot less important. The bulk of the registrations in these TLDs tend to be legacy or veteran brand protection registrations.

There is, I admit, at this stage much greater mindshare for legacy tld's like .org and .net. Yet there also a number of legacy tld's that have not performed as well as .club.
There is a simple reason for some of those gTLDs not performing as well as .CLUB gTLD. They are niche gTLDs with limited appeal. The .MOBI sTLD managed to get overtaken by technology and the rise of the smart phone and other mobile devices. The .TRAVEL gTLD was meant for the travel business. The .ASIA gTLD was a regional gTLD where no strong regional identity existed unlike .EU ccTLD. (But that's a different mess.) The .BIZ gTLD was meant to be a business gTLD but the management drifted away from the original business plan. It is now swamped with Chinese/Japanese registrations and is no longer a major gTLD in the US/EU/CA/AU/NZ markets.

Based on Alexa top 1 million sites (as of today):
Alexa is not reliable and should not be used to draw any such conclusions.

In terms of usage (based on the monthly surveys), the .CLUB gTLD is performing like a non-core gTLD. That's quite good for a relatively new gTLD. The exposure to the Chinese market has affected quite a few new gTLDs due to discounting promotions and these registrations are not high quality registrations with good renewal prospects. Many of these discounted registrations end up with Lottery/gambling landing pages, webspam or worse. They can increase the zonefile count but in terms of user experience of the gTLD and its sites, they are completely toxic.

How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.
Marketing matters. The new gTLDs that are struggling do not do any serious marketing of their gTLD. If a registry doesn't market its gTLD, then people don't realise it exists and people don't register domain names and businesses don't develop websites in the gTLD. To date, the .CLUB registry has been very active in marketing the gTLD and it has helped.

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People know about a lot of products, service, etc. That doesn't mean they buy and use them.

For the small amount of people that know about new gTLDs, few are ready to use them. :)
 
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Terminal doesn't understand or have "mindshare" for new gTLDs. :)

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