discuss Well hasn't this year been...

Yes, too slow for me especially after June.
But some may have good sales this year.

drsheraz said:

But some may have good sales this year.

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Agree, but wonder if they compare well to 2016?

each year has 12 months

just as every day, has 24 hours

and the time between the ticks of seconds that pass,
do not fluctuate.

therefore, speed of time, remains constant

if only, i could slow it down



imo....

What has changed?

I'm sure the cd manufacturers were sure saying "boy, slow year" after napster came out, too.

DefinitelyDomains said:

a slow one don't you think?

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2017 was pretty great for me - September was my best month so far (if you disregard the 2015/2016 Chinese bonanza).

2017 for sure has changed my approach. Will be looking at other investment opportunities in 2018.

I am not convinced this is just a blip.

This year definitely has been a roller coaster from some very slow months to some of the best months I've had.

One thing that's tough is to convince myself to accept decent offers that are way below expectations. If I had done that, on average all my months would've been very decent to much better (dealing with brandables in my case).

1-2 months of great sales doesn't a third one will definitely follow that trajectory.

pokainc said:

One thing that's tough is to convince myself to accept decent offers that are way below expectations

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An all too common mistake that a lot of us on here would agree.

I don't take low offers, and so far, someone has stepped up to pay what is fair enough times a month to keep things going strong.

Are you guys doing 14+ gTLD's or .com?

.com & .co.uk only

Its called....

Crypto Currencies

This year has been amazing for me. I think if u buy good names every year is a good year. If u speculate on new gtlds and chinese crap then you will need lots of luck not to go broke. Good luck guys!!! Have nice Holidays!!

The best names, the ones that are selling from my portfolio, and the ones I get offers on every day are dot coms (which almost all of my domains are dot coms) that are one or two words, even three words, real words, and especially EMDs. Also my four letters and five letters getting good action, but especially the ones that contain a real word.

Not a good year at all. In fact, the worst year since 2002. Will have to evaluate what my 2018 plans are. Mostly .com and some ccTLD make up 95% of my names. The rest are new gTLD experiments.

This is my third year in domaining and not a good year at all, today just finished my accounting ( from 1/04/2016 till 31/03/2017 ) my turnover from domaining is £15954, money spent on domains and renewals £11560, so profit £4394... before the corporation tax

Portfolio downsized to 80 domain names, sold some domains for cents, bought some cheap names and some expensive hope, next 5-6 months will be better.

The beginning of the year i was killing it I was also doing this full time. I took a little time away and now im doing it part time. I definitely notice things are a lot slower. As nj said in a post. I thinm the crypto market is definitely taking a toll on domains. But I think there are going to be good buying opportunities becuase of this. Domains are never going out of style as long as theres the internet

DefinitelyDomains said:

.com & .co.uk only

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Me too

How many of you guys are doing outbound?

DefinitelyDomains said:

How many of you guys are doing outbound?

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Surprisingly, whenever I do Outbound I do, for whatever reason, get a 100% positive response rate and counter-offer. (not 100% sales usually due to price differences). I do put a fair amount of work into identifying and reasons why it's in the buyers interest (basically I use a mindset as if I'm on their team and working to their priority levels) I have worked in marketing for quite a few years in the past. So I make the approach,' the initial contact' as if they are the ones requesting/employing my services It takes a fair amount of background work but I feel comfortable, as if we've all just stepped into a pre-arranged meeting with my target.buyer I don't fire-away with all that I've learnt or believe to be true , But try to open with the one or two areas I feel should've became important to them.. Any saved back reasons I try to keep back for 'selling-price negotiation support.
yep I put in a couple of hours work, before even starting to draft the initial contact email. and obviously make sure I've got the decision makers verfied email - So, Not always the one on whois or webpage.

keeping my unsolicited email as Personal and Relevant as absolutely necessary and possible. Yep it usually does require several edits before pressing the send button

BaileyUK said:

Surprisingly, whenever I do Outbound I do, for whatever reason, get a 100% positive response rate and counter-offer. (not 100% sales usually due to price differences). I do put a fair amount of work into identifying and reasons why it's in the buyers interest (basically I use a mindset as if I'm on their team and working to their priority levels) I have worked in marketing for quite a few years in the past. So I make the approach,' the initial contact' as if they are the ones requesting/employing my services It takes a fair amount of background work but I feel comfortable, as if we've all just stepped into a pre-arranged meeting with my target.buyer I don't fire-away with all that I've learnt or believe to be true , But try to open with the one or two areas I feel should've became important to them.. Any saved back reasons I try to keep back for 'selling-price negotiation support.
yep I put in a couple of hours work, before even starting to draft the initial contact email. and obviously make sure I've got the decision makers verfied email - So, Not always the one on whois or webpage.

keeping my unsolicited email as Personal and Relevant as absolutely necessary and possible. Yep it usually does require several edits before pressing the send button

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What's your general opening approach?

Terrible summer, picking up once over.

This year has been ok but I've learned a ton which I believe is most important. Learning and adapting to the changing marketplace is essential.

-Omar

Vlad Tarabasa said:

What's your general opening approach?

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A good question
First, we probably all acknowledge that the email header and opening lines are the 'interest seeker' (I hate those words 'Attention Grabber'). My aim is to create an email of approximately 4, maximum 5 short paragraphs. And I do mean short, No more than 3/4 lines per paragraph with a half line space between each paragraph. I don't open with any sort of introduction about me or the domain but a short, acknowledgement about their business
I will, already be fully aware of their business model, profit, operations etc. This sounds like a lot of work but, it really isn't. My difficulty is in summarising all that I've learnt into a short introduction paragraph. I change the tone depending on the size of the business. (we mustn't forget how different size businesses operate) I then use the acknowledgement introduction to lead into the following 1/2 sales pitch paragraphs. The final paragraph includes my full contact details including phone numbers and generally a good/friendly and appropriate sign-off with the offer price always included

The 'Occasional' beautiful feeling when you see you have received four or five unanswered calls from an unknown number (usually due to global time-differences) makes the morning coffee taste so much better