DomainInvesting.com Blog Chooses To Be Non-Transparent, NameBio.com Ends Up Publishing Sales Data

biggie said:

soooooo,

the names that sold, have value....

and because they sold,

then knowledge of the sale, has value too?

but, if you don't give a flying frisbie -

then, does this, mean anything to you?

imo....

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Only individuals can answer the the question you ask if not giving a flying frisbie and meaning anything to them.

Knowledge of any sale has value for those who know how to use that data. Certainly, a list of 2,700 domain sales from Uniregistry.com has immense value.

What point are you trying to make with such a sporadic comment?

Michael said:

Publishing the full list opens you up to threats and potential lawsuits, so I can totally understand not wanting to publish the entire thing, especially when you know someone else will do it soon anyway. The more sales you publish the more chance you have of pissing people off. We get threatened all the time so I'm used to it, but had you gotten the list and published it you would have quickly found out why it sucks to be that guy

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@Michael,

Another ridiculous comment in this scenario and topic. The full list was released by Jeff Gabriel at Uniregistry.com. Only folks that would be held accountable if list contained Non disclosures would be Uniregistry, as they made the list public.

This also goes for pissing folks off.

If you are going to lecture me, please provide content of value/meaning Sir.

texmexi said:

So I am imagining some grand conspiracy now? Really? Not productive to call out unethical business practices? SMH. I should thank Uniregistry, guess what, I do thank them for releasing the info.

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Yes, you are. You are accusing Elliot of withholding data so he can benefit from it and you can't. That's just silly, if he wanted to do that he wouldn't have mentioned having the list at all. And even when I explain to you why people don't want to publish sales data you won't let it go and claim it is an ethics violation. Nobody is under any moral or ethical obligation to spoon-feed you data. If he only wants to post the top X sales that is his business as the publisher. If he didn't publish any of it that is fine too.

texmexi said:

Elliot had plenty of opportunity to explain in detail why he would not publish the full list. Instead he chose to tell me and his readers, to go find it elsewhere.

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Can you tell me why he owes you any detailed explanations for his decisions? You strike me as being really, really entitled.

texmexi said:

Seems folks only want to read between the lines where facts do not exist to defend Elliot's actions, but fail to read the true facts written in black and white written by him and I. For the record, I did thank Elliot and said Great job getting the sales data and also thanked him. But it is apparent you choose not to read that either to lecture me and make your point.

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I read all of your comments on his blog. I didn't say that you never thanked him, but it certainly isn't grateful to then spit in his face, accuse him of being unethical, and then start this ridiculous thread trying to ruin his reputation because he didn't want to do what you demanded of him. That's a tantrum.

texmexi said:

To bring up DnJournal.com is ridiculous. Ron has a consistent job validating sales before they are made public and this is why spurts of sales are released and updated on his sales database. I am no rookie/newbie. Been in the domain industry since 1999, and have seen it all.

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You genuinely don't know what you're talking about, I'm sorry to say. See this:

http://www.dnjournal.com/sales-verification.htm

"Most of the sales in our report come directly to us from reputable and widely-known sales venues such as Sedo.com, NameJet, DomainNameSales, SnapNames.com and several others. We accept their sales reports as accurate [...]"

"We also receive reports of sales made between only two parties, a buyer and a seller. In these cases, unless the parties to the sale are already very well-known to us, we require that documentation showing proof of the price paid be sent to us."

The staggered roll-out wasn't Ron taking time to verify sales, he didn't verify them at all and in fact he only verifies them if he doesn't already trust you. Him verifying every sale is an urban legend.

Do you seriously think Uniregistry sent him like 3,000 screenshots? Jesus. It was simply a publisher making a judgement call on how to present the information that was provided to him. Same as Elliot. Ron chose to break it out over several weeks, Elliot chose to only publish the sales $20k+. Get over it.

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I just wanted to poke my head in and explain why people don't want to publish sales data, so you can stop going on about ethics and standards and other such nonsense. But you clearly just want to argue and start drama, which is why some of the most prolific content creators and service providers in the industry are leaving. Nobody gets paid all that much, we do it out of passion, and this kind of bullshit sucks the fun right out of it. I'm going back to work, I suggest you do the same.

texmexi said:

@Michael,

Another ridiculous comment in this scenario and topic. The full list was released by Jeff Gabriel at Uniregistry.com. Only folks that would be held accountable if list contained Non disclosures would be Uniregistry, as they made the list public.

This also goes for pissing folks off.

If you are going to lecture me, please provide content of value/meaning Sir.

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Do you think the psychos that threaten us care about that? Here is what I got for publishing a Flippa sale, which as you mention is publicly reported by the platform and we're not liable:

https://twitter.com/NameBio/status/744306638069305344

Who needs that kind of drama in their lives? I certainly don't. I have dozens and dozens of emails threatening me with lawsuits over the same type of publicly-released information. One guy even threatened to call Interpol on me, lol.

Again, you really don't know what you're talking about.

Michael said:

Do you think the psychos that threaten us care about that? Here is what I got for publishing a Flippa sale, which as you mention is publicly reported by the platform and we're not liable:

https://twitter.com/NameBio/status/744306638069305344

Who needs that kind of drama in their lives? I certainly don't. I have dozens and dozens of emails threatening me with lawsuits over the same type of publicly-released information. One guy even threatened to call Interpol on me, lol.

Again, you really don't know what you're talking about.

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@Michael,

There you go again. Ok, I do not know what I am talking about, sure. Yet, this has nothing to do with the topic on hand, other than being used for making excuses for Elliot. Grabbing at straws to make a case.....

Your smart, I am dumb. Sure. Whatever you say. SMH

Michael said:

Yes, you are. You are accusing Elliot of withholding data so he can benefit from it and you can't. That's just silly, if he wanted to do that he wouldn't have mentioned having the list at all. And even when I explain to you why people don't want to publish sales data you won't let it go and claim it is an ethics violation. Nobody is under any moral or ethical obligation to spoon-feed you data. If he only wants to post the top X sales that is his business as the publisher. If he didn't publish any of it that is fine too.

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@Michael,

The more you respond, shows how ridiculous your comments/points are on the topic. Conspiracy based on facts in black and white.............priceless.

The whole reason for this topic was to call out nontransparent/unethical business practices by Elliot. This was not about me profiting from the data. Once again, if you were to actually read the blog post and comments, you would SEE that I asked him to publish for all his readers to remain transparent on information he published in the blog post.

I can see you are one to grab at straws to make a case, and refuse to look at facts to make your point. SMH

Michael said:

You genuinely don't know what you're talking about, I'm sorry to say. See this:

http://www.dnjournal.com/sales-verification.htm

"Most of the sales in our report come directly to us from reputable and widely-known sales venues such as Sedo.com, NameJet, DomainNameSales, SnapNames.com and several others. We accept their sales reports as accurate [...]"

"We also receive reports of sales made between only two parties, a buyer and a seller. In these cases, unless the parties to the sale are already very well-known to us, we require that documentation showing proof of the price paid be sent to us."

The staggered roll-out wasn't Ron taking time to verify sales, he didn't verify them at all and in fact he only verifies them if he doesn't already trust you. Him verifying every sale is an urban legend.

Do you seriously think Uniregistry sent him like 3,000 screenshots? Jesus. It was simply a publisher making a judgement call on how to present the information that was provided to him. Same as Elliot. Ron chose to break it out over several weeks, Elliot chose to only publish the sales $20k+. Get over it.

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@Michael,

Guess, you are lost in the sauce. Ron spends countless of hours verifying private sales data before made public. Yes, they do exist. And so do payment plans, mixed deals of equity/cash etc. in which all are researched before making sale public.

Seriously, grabbing at straws to make any point stick. Again, you are right. I do not know what I am talking about. Sure. Whatever you say Sir.

texmexi said:

Only individuals can answer the the question you ask if not giving a flying frisbie and meaning anything to them.

Knowledge of any sale has value for those who know how to use that data. Certainly, a list of 2,700 domain sales from Uniregistry.com has immense value.

What point are you trying to make with such a sporadic comment?

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my point is,
what sells for what or when isn't that important to me

if someone tells of their sales, that's fine and we give congrats to them

but i don't go out of my way seeking that data

it's not an obsession.

and i posted because the title of this thread, from my perspective, is kinda silly

it reads as if you're trying to hold dude's feet to the fire, cuz he didn't post some info you think you got a right to know about.

i don't read blogs like that, so that's where the flying frisbee comes in again

but if i did, wouldn't feel compelled to blast him, because it's his right to blog about whatever, in part or in totality, at his discretion.

and since there will be more sales in the future,
was not knowing every single sale out of that 2700, when you wanted to know, from the person you wanted to know it from..... that important.


just saying...

imo....

I agree that sales data is valuable, some of those sales on that list are mine that were handled via uniregistry brokers who earned some nice commissions. I don't like the fact that select insiders got access to those sales until it was opposed and released to everyone. At least provide it to your internal clients who make up a good percentage of those sales, instead of random outside bloggers of your choosing.

Elliot has always been private with his sales data, because he wants to give himself the edge, he has never been shy about that fact, and it is his right.

The uniregistry sales data is private data, and they have the right to give it to whoever they want, even though some of those sales are private sales assisted by uniregistry brokers.

Since Uniregistry chose to go this route, I will be setting my sales data to private from now on, I believe in being transparent to all, or nobody at all if they are going to pick, and choose among friends, and insiders.

biggie said:

my point is,
what sells for what or when isn't that important to me

if someone tells of their sales, that's fine and we give congrats to them

but i don't go out of my way seeking that data

it's not an obsession.

and i posted because the title of this thread, from my perspective, is kinda silly

it reads as if you're trying to hold dude's feet to the fire, cuz he didn't post some info you think you got a right to know about.

i don't read blogs like that, so that's where the flying frisbee comes in again

but if i did, wouldn't feel compelled to blast him, because it's his right to blog about whatever, in part or in totality, at his discretion.

and since there will be more sales in the future,
was not knowing every single sale out of that 2700, when you wanted to know, from the person you wanted to know it from..... that important.


just saying...

imo....

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This is how the car industry works, real estate market, what anything similar sells for is comprables, it sets a market tone, just as cryptocurrency domains which sold for peanuts 3 years ago, are commanding thousands today. If you are not in the know, you are only doing yourself a disservice. Many of the buyers on that list are going to be spammed to kingdom come in the coming days from people looking to cash in their subpar lottery tickets. I think Uniregistry just wanted to put the word out their market did $30M in sales, and somehow got pushed to back it up. There are many big sales missing from the list also.

Michael said:

I just wanted to poke my head in and explain why people don't want to publish sales data, so you can stop going on about ethics and standards and other such nonsense. But you clearly just want to argue and start drama, which is why some of the most prolific content creators and service providers in the industry are leaving. Nobody gets paid all that much, we do it out of passion, and this kind of bullsh*t sucks the fun right out of it. I'm going back to work, I suggest you do the same.

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Very well said. Thank you for stating this so well.
And thank you for all that you do for the industry. The more said is still not enough....

texmexi said:

Your smart, I am dumb.

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Pretty much your only statement that I agree with on this thread

biggie said:

my point is,
what sells for what or when isn't that important to me

if someone tells of their sales, that's fine and we give congrats to them

but i don't go out of my way seeking that data

it's not an obsession.

and i posted because the title of this thread, from my perspective, is kinda silly

it reads as if you're trying to hold dude's feet to the fire, cuz he didn't post some info you think you got a right to know about.

i don't read blogs like that, so that's where the flying frisbee comes in again

but if i did, wouldn't feel compelled to blast him, because it's his right to blog about whatever, in part or in totality, at his discretion.

and since there will be more sales in the future,
was not knowing every single sale out of that 2700, when you wanted to know, from the person you wanted to know it from..... that important.


just saying...

imo....

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Thank you for your input. It holds value. However, this was not about me, but readers of his blog. Instead of explaining anything on why he would not publish, he decided it would be better for his readers go on a goose hunt for same data on namebio.com, which was nonexistent.

I am holding his feet to the fire because of how he chose to handle the situation with comments he selected to write. It is easy to see one sided as this being "all about me" when folks ignore comments he made.

Thanks again for clarifying your position. It is much better to understand than the latter you published.

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@john,

Funny. A good laugh.

I will keep this on file to share with all next time another scandal, unethical business practices, etc are published in the domain industry for folks to fill out when all the complaints are posted. As, it is apparent folks only hold certain businesses/blogs accountable when it is "wagon event".

Standards not enforced in an industry across the board, are definitely new Standards Set. This why the domain industry continues to go downhill.

@anantj,

Topic labeled a conspiracy theory first by Michael from namebio.com with no factual content provided. Now you state it is now Conspiracy Theories. Amazing.

Black and white facts are conspiracy theory/theories. Really? Please provide your "valuable insight" on anything I published on this topic being conspiracies itemized, if this is the case to back up your claim.

However, please do so with factual content and not made up scenarios to make a point and without back stepping with smiley faces.

I am assuming no such reply will come from you, as it is easy to label folks or topics without producing factual content as conspiracy theories.

How is this now conspiracy theories Sir?

texmexi said:

Black and white facts are conspiracy theory/theories.

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your entitled opinion does not equal to a fact. There is nothing black and white

@texmexi

Just backoff this now, you made your point, you got J Berryhills attention, that's says a lot, but nothing to win here.

Every blog that got the early jump basically reported the same thing. Maybe he thought the list was good to be kept quiet, and why not cherry pick some end users to pitch, or not. That is his choice, but there are about 4-5 blogs that pretty much repeat the same stories, your choice who to visit. I am sure advertisers want to measure traffic, so if they continue to produce soft content, they will cease to exist.

But just straight up, go out enjoy your day, most of the people who are arguing with you here don't have much skin in the game, or are close with your chosen opponent, so what's the point.

@wwwweb,

Folks keep replying. Since I started the topic, I feel obligated to respond to their comments since they took the time to respond.

For the record, I have not argued anything. Just provided factual content and made a point. Simple as that.

I agree, am enjoying the day. That is until another reply to this topic deserves proper attention.

Thanks and congrats on your sales this year. As well as thanks for your valuable insight to topic.

anantj said:

your entitled opinion does not equal to a fact. There is nothing black and white

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@anantj,

Really? Guess you did not read the blog post and comments, which are in black and white. Assume you just like to make sporadic comments on topics without getting full context of topic after leaving such a comment as this.

Anyway, have a good day Sir.

Michael said:

You strike me as being really, really entitled.

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This is a callous attack on the character and transparency of Mr. Texi Mexi. You'll be hearing from Mr. Mexi's lawyers about this!

jberryhill said:

This is a callous attack on the character and transparency of Mr. Texi Mexi. You'll be hearing from Mr. Mexi's lawyers about this!

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Sir, I will vigorously defend my First Amendment rights to attack people who display exceptional transparency, ethics, and standards! God Bless America! Invented standards not enforced are not standards... or something like that.

Michael said:

I will vigorously defend my First Amendment rights

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Hear, hear!

texmexi said:

@anantj,
which are in black and white.

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Oh you meant the font color? I thought you meant how your opinions are facts. Yes, it is a fact that a lot of Elliot's site is in black and white. Your "alternative facts" are not black and white but pure fabrication, unfortunately.

biggie said:

then knowledge of the sale, has value too?

but, if you don't give a flying frisbie -

then, does this, mean anything to you?

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Based on your response to being notified Biggie.TV was at GD closeout for $5, I don't know if you'll give a flying frisbie about this biggie domain update...