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A few years ago before I really started domaining, I participated in a handful of auctions at GoDaddy based solely on traffic data and revenue. I very shortly found out that the numbers were mostly fake. Back then I didn't really even know the difference between an expiring auction and non-expiring auction, so I can't really say if it was an individual deliberately trying to fix his/her auction stats or if it was just garbage traffic (obviously 9/10 after I received ownership of the domain the traffic dropped off a cliff).

Anyhow, now that I'm more aware of what is going on I notice some questionable metrics/patterns from time to time. Given the issues with NameJet last week I think it's not a bad idea to share these suspicions to know whether it's unmerited paranoia ... or something worth investigating further.

Over the last several weeks and even months, I've noticed an unnaturally high proportion of older .com domains (10+ years) that include the word "London" to have a traffic of exactly 30 (occasionally a small amount scattered in with the 30's will have exactly double at 60). It just seems way too unnatural for me to believe.

They are mostly expiring domains it seems, so my only guess is maybe these were formerly held by someone who actually did create fake traffic for some reason (either to inflate data for resell, or to scam cash parking). Most of them seem to actually sell (not sure if at auction or closeout).

Does anyone know what to think? Am I wrong to feel something is out of place? I took a couple of screenshots to show what I mean. First 2 screen grabs are from about 3 weeks ago .. the last one I took just now. It's an ongoing pattern I've noticed for a while, certainly not at all limited to just the 2 periods in time I captured. Mostly, but not exclusively, the "London" is at the start of the domain.

On a related note .. One of my biggest pet peeves with GoDaddy is that at auction they hide the fact a domain is blacklisted from their aftermarket parking because of known fraudulent activity .. but then the moment you apply they instantly seem to have that fact on hand. I always thought of this as being the same as with latent/hidden defects in real estate transactions.


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It may be someone who thought that London names would take off as a result of Brexit, and he has now changed his mind because of government vacillation. He may be a bit premature, as 80% of the Keiser Reich bonds are traded through London, and the head of Barclays has stated that they are NOT moving the trading platform out of London.

I agree that the traffic count of 30 looks suspicious, and it would be easy to generate this with cross linking. The decaying of traffic as a result of external links is fairly usual. I've been buying traffic names recently, and the traffic drops off as the site is changed and external links are removed. I haven't been doing the work that is needed to preserve some of the links. :)
 
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I checked two names and think all all the same - their registrant is the same and behaviour is to redirect and create fake Adsense visits:
http://www.shopslondon.com/index.php5?cx=partner-pub-6687622916938034:8fgqimxxj91&cof=FORID:10&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=+Shops+London
So it looks like visitor came from Google search.
I checked sites containing that pub- number and they are more than 10,000!
Regarding London - it is maybe to look more legit.
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Another batch of suspicious London names ...

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Yet another batch of suspicious names ... :-/
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A little more looking around and it seems this suspicious data goes well beyond just expiring domains that contain "London".

I just ran a search of all expiring domains aged 14-16 years scheduled for auction (over next 10 days) that have a "Traffic" value of between 26 and 35, yielding 213 domains. You'd expect an average of about 21 domains for each traffic amount of 26 through 35. But the results were as follows:

26: 20
27: 2
28: 8
29: 1
30: 159 <----
31: 1
32: 1
33: 8
34: 3
35: 10


Here's the raw list of domains in question along with listed traffic:

makeuponsale.com 35
palace-resorts-cancun.com 35
bethlehemmasonictemple.com 35
garden-mortgage.com 35
homesinnewbern.com 35
edufaq.com 35
ielectricity.com 35
windsorsocial.com 35
milanocafe.com 35
extralifeclub.com 35
boocoorunning.com 34
3tomboys.com 34
bmeisner.com 34
jkfritz.com 33
ad-select.com 33
familydentalhealthcenter.com 33
srssatellite.com 33
tbirdnut.com 33
accunl.com 33
sjexchangeclub.com 33
manilastandardonline.com 33
allrvsales.com 32
modutecengineers.com 31
londonyellow.com 30
londonyachts.com 30
londonoutlet.com 30
londonoutlets.com 30
streathamhotels.com 30
orpingtonhotels.com 30
crouchendhotels.com 30
newcrosshotels.com 30
stjohnswoodhotels.com 30
watfordhotels.com 30
dartfordhotels.com 30
westbourneparkhotels.com 30
bigginhillhotels.com 30
vauxhallhotels.com 30
nataliewolfe.com 30
vacacionesdegolf.com 30
phishtown.com 30
okeasia.com 30
surabhihandicraft.com 30
escbizservices.com 30
patscreativestitches.com 30
stopbeatingaroundthebush.com 30
notariachia.com 30
oregonfilmgroup.com 30
williamsburgvirgina.com 30
reomas.com 30
londonteams.com 30
thompsonhillco.com 30
londonwatford.com 30
txbikeshow.com 30
casasia.com 30
bfconnect.com 30
christinebruynell.com 30
karabruynell.com 30
aandlfineart.com 30
trishabruynell.com 30
sds-law.com 30
mlmeng.com 30
ccpasia.com 30
opleiden.com 30
greghuber.com 30
toyys.com 30
elemankiralama.com 30
mylearningzone.com 30
uniteque.com 30
lotasia.com 30
moldinspectortraining.com 30
margeryammon.com 30
theedollhousemiami.com 30
productsinmotion.com 30
mountmonadnock.com 30
swimsuitdepot.com 30
banderahuntersbbq.com 30
dailytraveldeals.com 30
kampalaguide.com 30
lilleguide.com 30
harareguide.com 30
osakaguides.com 30
louisvilleguides.com 30
manchesterguides.com 30
visithartford.com 30
pretoriaguides.com 30
delhiguides.com 30
bhopalguide.com 30
warsawguides.com 30
visitharare.com 30
milanguides.com 30
dallasguides.com 30
edmontonguides.com 30
jacksonvilleguides.com 30
adisababaguides.com 30
milwaukeeguides.com 30
pittsburghguides.com 30
minneapolisguides.com 30
lisbonguides.com 30
liverpoolguides.com 30
santacruzguides.com 30
lahoreguide.com 30
glasgowguides.com 30
integritycoins.com 30
juniorlondon.com 30
animateddolls.com 30
shopping-bookmarks.com 30
mykent.com 30
extendasia.com 30
octpob.com 30
waltermichaels.com 30
sport-joechl.com 30
artsalesonline.com 30
amnasia.com 30
holylandcrafts.com 30
dbmasia.com 30
energy-jobs.com 30
fightever.com 30
michaelscasaquintana.com 30
cslodgings.com 30
erdasa.com 30
gmoasia.com 30
hatchiecoon.com 30
vdiembroidery.com 30
jokbazar.com 30
mcgowanphotography.com 30
fciasia.com 30
londonbusinessmagazine.com 30
lurasart.com 30
globalvisionlink.com 30
aeonmiller.com 30
notikitos.com 30
vcchristianchurch.com 30
allcanadacollect.com 30
thegreatstupa.com 30
autoridadcertificante.com 30
onlymusclecars.com 30
high-school-disco.com 30
motorcycleslocator.com 30
dream3d.com 30
foxesbbq.com 30
cyberescribano.com 30
pdiasia.com 30
joeasia.com 30
runningasia.com 30
cigasia.com 30
gssasia.com 30
luckyreef.com 30
arremovals.com 30
modemasia.com 30
del-norte-dental.com 30
williamsrealtyhomes.com 30
llpasia.com 30
londontechno.com 30
abbyassociates.com 30
garyheard.com 30
tomopy.com 30
konradhomes.com 30
londonspirit.com 30
londonartsfestivals.com 30
adtbelgium.com 30
savannahbulldogs.com 30
pushasia.com 30
sbtasia.com 30
punkyporn.com 30
eve69.com 30
cbutts.com 30
car77.com 30
imapackerfan.com 30
renaissancemfg.com 30
my-mart.com 30
momoland.com 30
fraochdesign.com 30
carlosflorez.com 30
lokkit.com 30
southsidemibor.com 30
bowsandbritches.com 30
dzdnb.com 30
signs2graphics.com 30
concerts-nashville.com 30
concerts-losangeles.com 30
hisajezikov.com 30
amco-cellular.com 30
7wdjc.com 29
goromypc.com 28
shoresbowl.com 28
jpichler.com 28
concordcorporation.com 28
pickledpages.com 28
cacodinc.com 28
schmidtmuseum.com 28
nyexoticentertainment.com 28
johnnybrothers.com 27
enewnesslaw.com 27
txwebworking.com 26
lancersclub.com 26
nadacsys.com 26
bromeliamart.com 26
hitmanfightgear.com 26
nonreligiouswedding.com 26
minutedating.com 26
roundrobindating.com 26
salondavidperez.com 26
eventhorizongroup.com 26
markroan.com 26
cgstudios.com 26
hubcaparte.com 26
theparkwayapartments.com 26
kelmattmusicpublishing.com 26
victoriavera.com 26
andreaharris.com 26
drbesperka.com 26
ticketsfinder.com 26
shemalef_cking.com 26
 
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Ever since I posted this last year this suspicious trend of "multiples of 30" traffic has continued almost without stop. Today as I was putting together my daily list of domains I noticed an unusually high number of 5L .com domains hitting auction .. and then noticed an absurdly high number of them with the same "multiple of 30" traffic data.

Theoretically the total number of domains with a multiple of 30 should be about 1/30 the total of all others .. but in this case it's actually 56 times the total of all other combined.

A result 1700 TIMES greater than what would be the naturally expected ratio ..

Here are the stats .. decide for yourselves:

Total 5L expiring domains hitting GoDaddy auctions today: 3790
225 domains with zero traffic
275 total domains between 1 to 5 traffic
144 total domains between 6 to 10 traffic

64 total domains between 11 to 15 traffic
then:
53 total number of domains with traffic above 15 not a multiple of 30
vs
3010 total number of domains with traffic of a multiple of EXACTLY 30


Further traffic breakdown:

225 domains x 0 traffic
6 domains x 1 traffic
140 x 2 traffic
19 x 3
110 x 4
19 x 5
23 x 6
49 x 7
16 x 8
43 x 9
13 x 10
27 x 11
5 x 12
12 x 13
6 x 14
14 x 15
24 total x between 16 and 29 traffic
2869 x exactly 30 traffic <-------------- ?????
17 total x between 31 and 59 traffic
116 exactly 60 traffic
6 total x between 61 and 89 traffic
10 x exactly 90 traffic
6 total for all domains with traffic above 91 not a multiple of 30
15 total for all domains with traffic stats above 91 of multiple of exactly 30 (120, 150, 180, 210. 240, 270. 300, 1380)
 
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