Dynadot Changes Domain Expiration Policy Today

I really loved the 40 days grace period. That's too bad.

Honestly, this is fair warning, and still a better policy than some others, by doing it this way my guess would be it will save @Dynadot issues overall.

If a customer renews on day 31, for example, they could make the choice to waive the $10 fee, yet if under the current policy a customer waits until day 41 they are beyond the limit of where Dynadot can help.

That extra 10 days used to be very useful when you were in a cash crunch. Now it's going to cost an extra $10 to renew from 31 to 40 days. This is still a fair price for not renewing your domains on time. Better than most companies. IMHO. I'll just have to adjust my strategies. I'd have preferred the status quo. But it's a fair policy.

stub said:

That extra 10 days used to be very useful when you were in a cash crunch. Now it's going to cost and extra $10 to renew from 31 to 40 days. This is still a fair price for not renewing your domains on time. Better than most companies. IMHO. I'll just have to adjust my strategies. I'd have preferred the status quo. But it's a fair policy.

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Exactly.

uhm , i need change my usual renew , i renew all at -38 -39 day , need go to -28 -29

Hi all. Thank you for your feedback. We realize this is a big change. We're hoping this new fee will help reduce the number of expired auction orders we see cancelled due to renewal. When we set up our auction system, the cancellation rate was at 6%. That has grown greatly in recent years. It seems some Registrants would use the auctions as a way to appraise their domains before renewing.

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Dynadot said:

Hi all. Thank you for your feedback. We realize this is a big change. We're hoping this new fee will help reduce the number of expired auction orders we see cancelled due to renewal. When we set up our auction system, the cancellation rate was at 6%. That has grown greatly in recent years. It seems some Registrants would use the auctions as a way to appraise their domains before renewing. For those that simply forgot, or maybe did not have the available funds, we can manually waive the fee.

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1/I don't like this at all. This will have consequences I presume. As godaddy let you still transfer out till 41stday, despite the fact that somebody won the auction.
2/And how you will determin "For those that simply forgot, or maybe did not have the available funds, we can manually waive the fee." who these people are ?
3/And what about domains of which is asked by owner to put in a transferrable position after expiry ? How many days ???
4/AND HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A CHANGEMENT OF RENEWALEND OF 10 DAYS IS MENTIONED ONLY TWO DAYS IN ADVANCE ?????

Dynadot said:

Hi all. Thank you for your feedback. We realize this is a big change. We're hoping this new fee will help reduce the number of expired auction orders we see cancelled due to renewal. When we set up our auction system, the cancellation rate was at 6%. That has grown greatly in recent years. It seems some Registrants would use the auctions as a way to appraise their domains before renewing. For those that simply forgot, or maybe did not have the available funds, we can manually waive the fee.

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Almost all domains I've bought at DynaDot expired auctions got renewed afterwards.

So an auction win for an expired domain will go to the winner no matter what from now on? Or can the owner still reclaim it post-auction by paying the $10 fee?

Arca said:

Almost all domains I've bought at DynaDot expired auctions got renewed afterwards.

So an auction win for an expired domain will go to the winner no matter what from now on? Or can the owner still reclaim it post-auction by paying the $10 fee?

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It's obvious it's the latter.

4/AND HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A CHANGEMENT OF RENEWALEND OF 10 DAYS IS MENTIONED ONLY TWO DAYS IN ADVANCE ?????[/QUOTE said:

Sorry it's not 2 DAYS but a MONTH IN ADVANCE you warn. But that doesn't make it a lesser bad decision IMHO.

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Domainstore said:

It's obvious it's the latter.

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I see. If you buy an expiring a name at namesilo, there is no way for the owner to claw it back post-auction (owner can only renew while domain is in auction, not after the pre-release auction has ended). And if you buy an expiring domain at name.com, the name arrives in your account instantly. Don't see why DynaDot couldn't change their system so they also deliver all auction wins consistently, like namesilo and name.com is doing. The introduction of a $10 fee is a step in the right direction at least.

Arca said:

I see. If you buy an expiring a name at namesilo, there is no way for the owner to claw it back post-auction (owner can only renew while domain is in auction, not after the pre-release auction has ended). And if you buy an expiring domain at name.com, the name arrives in your account instantly. Don't see why DynaDot couldn't change their system so they also deliver all auction wins consistently, like namesilo and name.com is doing. The introduction of a $10 fee is a step in the right direction at least.

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You know : At Godaddy the current owner also can renew the domain, paying a fee.And transfer is also possibile after somebody won and payed. Godaddy is the biggest registrar as you know..
And name.com does the following => The best domains don't go to name-aftermarket-auction, they go to Namejet, that auctions them starting at 69 USD. And the name-aftermarketauctions themselves begin with thousands and gradually decrease as the auction goes on.

And some days ago I LOST a domainname to a Domainsilo-auction. I was furious. Just forgot (had mother that was very sick all night etc...) and was 4 hours too late to renew. I mailed to the new owner (who got the domain immediately as you explain) : NO WAY he would sell the domain back to me for double of the registrationprice.. He said he would not sell the domain for less then 4 figures. He mentioned that I was scamming. (I lost a similar name half a year ago, also to him and also at namesilo, and again something had happened.
BUT AFTERWARDS I emailed back saying that everything I wrote had been the truth, and that he simply should check a whois-archive to see that I WAS the previous owner. He replied with excuses for his using such harsh words in his emails. But the domains are lost for me..........

I don't like these aftermarketauctions => They let me loose several times domains that I still wanted to renew, and it is NOT with the intention to see how high the domains go that I renew nearly always the last day. It's because of financial reasons. ==> AND I DID THAT BACK IN THE TIME WHEN DDOT HAD NO AFTERMARKET AUCTIONS, AND ALSO SINCE THEY INTRODUCED AUCTIONS.
WHAT I FIND of this new policy is that Dynadot is IMHO discriminating long-term members. Especially new persons want participate in these auctions. What doesn't mean I never buy an auction name.

But they could loose big customers over this..
It's TRUE WHAT DDOT WRITES => WE GET SEVERAL EMAILS about EXPIRATION. BUT I WAS ALWAYS MORE INTERESTED INGETTING AN EMAIL 2 DAYS BEFORE DELETION OR SO.
Why should domainers (with no websites on particular domains) renew before expiration ??? The actual deletion is at 40 days after expiry and now they gonna change that in fact to 30.

stub said:

That extra 10 days used to be very useful when you were in a cash crunch. Now it's going to cost an extra $10 to renew from 31 to 40 days. This is still a fair price for not renewing your domains on time. Better than most companies. IMHO. I'll just have to adjust my strategies. I'd have preferred the status quo. But it's a fair policy.

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I also peferred the status quo.

40 days expiring period is the time space ICANN made as rule and at this time space owner can renew at normal fee. At most registrars can renew or transfer out till 40th day, also at some like hexonet dns are alive till 40th day, opposing to dynadot that 1 second after expiration put their dns for parking with their ads, fact that can cause problems to owners .
Of course we understand that dynadot as all companies do their best to have profit and for sure dynadot at least send early emails with new rules, on the other hand i think that many customers will leave.
Just my point

dr manos said:

40 days expiring period is the time space ICANN made as rule and at this time space owner can renew at normal fee. At most registrars can renew or transfer out till 40th day, also at some like hexonet dns are alive till 40th day, opposing to dynadot that 1 second after expiration put their dns for parking with their ads, fact that can cause problems to owners .
Of course we understand that dynadot as all companies do their best to have profit and for sure dynadot at least send early emails with new rules, on the other hand i think that many customers will leave.
Just my point

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I don't think it's enough for any serious domainer to transfer their domains out of Dynadot. They are a domainer friendly registrar generally. I just will focus my attention on 30 days after expiry rather than 40 days. Of course there will be the occassional slip up. Just like there was at 40 days. But at least those slipups can now be rectified for $10. I wouldn't do this for all my expiring domains of course. I'm talking about the ones which fall through the cracks. In many ways 30 days makes it easier to count the days, than 40. If you want to see something good in this change

Dynadot said:

Hi all. Thank you for your feedback. We realize this is a big change. We're hoping this new fee will help reduce the number of expired auction orders we see cancelled due to renewal. When we set up our auction system, the cancellation rate was at 6%. That has grown greatly in recent years. It seems some Registrants would use the auctions as a way to appraise their domains before renewing.

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I think that you can increase the cost for "the 10 days" to be $80 as Godady to limit the domain owners to play with the auction.

GREAT NEWS. Thank you @Dynadot for this change. However, I think you should double the "fine" to $160. and send a message. Dynadot lost nearly $300 for a domain I paid for at auction and it was renewed by the previous owner, gaming the system. And I still don't participate so it's thousands in lost revenue I pay at other real auctions, so until this problem goes away I can't waste my time or anywhere else with similar problems as it isn't an absolute auction, the domain should be held for the ICANN Fee of $.018, until it can be sold. Then auctioned.

I have no sympathy for people without money management skills. Credit cards work great for cash problems. This is a business, so if you truly value a domain, you can pay for a 3 year renewal. The price of going out to dinner at your local McDonalds.

They send out what 12 emails to remind you?

Take personal responsibility for your problems, don't blame the vendor.

But this is not a reason for trampling on the rights of registrants... just because vulture domainers are waiting to snag their assets.

But this is not a reason for trampling on the rights of registrants... just because vulture domainers are waiting to snag their assets.

Honestly speaking, I think it is a fair change and it should help people a lot who are often found snapping at expired domains, 30 days mind you is still reasonable time to renew the domain.

According to ICANN, original registrant has 40 days expiring period to renew the name with normal fee and 30 days redemption period when can renew with bigger fee, this is the established life cycle of domains.
Asking for bigger fee during expiring periods or auction the name does not seem so legal to me.

dr manos said:

According to ICANN, original registrant has 40 days expiring period to renew the name with normal fee and 30 days redemption period when can renew with bigger fee, this is the established life cycle of domains.
Asking for bigger fee during expiring periods or auction the name does not seem so legal to me.

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Godaddy charges $80 for "the day 19"!
https://www.godaddy.com/help/what-happens-after-domain-names-expire-6700

Aboutdomains said:

Godaddy charges $80 for "the day 19"!
https://www.godaddy.com/help/what-happens-after-domain-names-expire-6700

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Nop, i have transferred many times away from godaddy at 40th day

dr manos said:

Nop, i have transferred many times away from godaddy at 40th day

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I love your advice. Thanks