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Once in awhile I see people bidding on their own domains at NJ. I would think it would be frowned upon.

Today's seems more obvious than normal. Or am I missing something here?

Airlinejobs.com owned by Andy Booth at Booth.com and high bidder is BQDNcom (James Booth).

3 bids down we see Boothcom as a bidder.

Same thing with MovieZone.com. Owned by Andy Booth in which he currently appears to be the high bidder.

High Bid: $2,475 USD by boothcom

They actually won their own domain airplanesforsale.com. Im guessing it didnt get as high as they wanted so needed to protect it.

Bidder Amount Date
bqdncom $2,001 7/17/2017 12:23 PM
boothcom $1,950 7/17/2017 12:23 PM
 
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This is a kick-ass community :bookworm:
Sorry I don't agree. Some of you guys are downright petty, close-minded, and mentally limited. Other than that, you guys are great. I understand that these types of events blow up like this event every three months. Unbelievable and unacceptable! Sincerely hope some of you look yourselves in the mirror and improve yourselves in the future. Sorry to be blunt but too many of you need it.
 
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Sorry I don't agree. Some of you guys are downright petty, close-minded, and mentally limited. Other than that, you guys are great. I understand that these types of events blow up like this event every three months. Unbelievable and unacceptable! Sincerely hope some of you look yourselves in the mirror and improve yourselves in the future. Sorry to be blunt but too many of you need it.

AKA... what you WILL NOT find in Dale Carnegie's "How To Win Friends & Influence People."

You can call someone petty or close minded, but mentally limited? I sincerely hope you just chose poor wording and English is your second or third language.

If you don't have something nice to say... sometimes just better to keep your mouth shut and move on. Fighting it only makes you look bitter, no matter your intentions. =)
 
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For the rest of you, next time if possible, go out of your way to support those who are being unfairly treated. But all I heard were crickets all around. No matter how successful and high up they are, they are still human, believe me. Therefore in the future when something like this happens, it ends quickly. Or better yet, it is prevented altogether. ☮
 
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I've also seen a couple of people warning of multiple $69 bids being withdrawn at the last minute so that someone is left on the hook paying the $69 who might not have had the intention of buying (just tracking). I have no idea if that is true though .. just that it's true that somebody was concerned about it. *IF* that were possible though, then yes a $69 later withdrawn bid could indeed have driven the price from $0 to $69 (logically speaking .. even if that does sound kinda weird saying it .. lol .. essentially artificially hyping up a domain that otherwise would never had sold)

I know I have given this warning and this is more of a hypothetical. As I've mentioned in that post as well, this is highly unlikely but is in the realm of possibility
 
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Explanation is 40 pages back, lol
Sorry, I might have missed that post. I never made a non-refundable deposit to NJ so I'm confused and hence the question. If you recollect the details, would appreciate if you can share.

Thanks
 
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Sorry I don't agree. Some of you guys are downright petty, close-minded, and mentally limited. Other than that, you guys are great. I understand that these types of events blow up like this event every three months. Unbelievable and unacceptable! Sincerely hope some of you look yourselves in the mirror and improve yourselves in the future. Sorry to be blunt but too many of you need it.
I am new to Namepros but from what I've seen so far I believe you are totally wrong. I'm very impressed with the hard work and integrity of some of these younger domain investors. Gives me hope for our future. Almost every industry is shady when you really look under the hood. That will never change. But when you discredit this community that worked incredibly hard to try to restore integrity and confidence in domain auction business than I think that you are very far off base. This post is to stick up for these NamePros members putting in this hard work. I respect it. Think its very high quality work. Thank you for all that you are contributing.
 
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filet.com closed on 2017-07-10 at $9800
Refund of $2200 is recommended for juggernaut. ($9800 - $7600)
http://www.namejet.com/Pages/Auctions/StandardDetails.aspx?auctionid=3951668

Reasoning:
juggernaut bid $9800 at 2017-07-10 16:16:00
hkdn bid $9700 at 2017-07-10 16:16:00
hkdn bid $9564 at 2017-07-10 16:11:00
juggernaut bid $9464 at 2017-07-10 16:11:00
hkdn bid $8989 at 2017-07-10 16:10:00
juggernaut bid $8889 at 2017-07-10 16:10:00
hkdn bid $8588 at 2017-07-10 16:05:00
juggernaut bid $8488 at 2017-07-10 16:05:00
hkdn bid $8388 at 2017-07-10 16:05:00
juggernaut bid $8288 at 2017-07-10 16:05:00
hkdn bid $8164 at 2017-07-10 16:00:00
juggernaut bid $8064 at 2017-07-10 16:00:00
hkdn bid $7878 at 2017-07-10 15:55:00
juggernaut bid $7778 at 2017-07-10 15:55:00
hkdn bid $7600 at 2017-07-10 15:43:00 <= Winner would have bid this with no shill.
neally bid $7500 at 2017-07-10 15:43:00 <= Last legitimate third-party bid.
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Bid that i qoute, missing or deleted from that url..
Check it yourselves
http://www.namejet.com/Pages/Auctions/StandardDetails.aspx?auctionid=3951668
 
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The first statement, "It appears that BQDN likes to bid on BoothCom auctions that are no reserve" is based off of BQDNcom bidding / and winning domains with a WHOIS showing of James Booth. It would have been great if from the get go, @andyboothsi, came clean and cleared up that the domains were being sold by account Seek (Oliver) instead of leaving it up to the community to put it on blast

WHOIS showing Andy Booth***

I just re-read my comment and saw how I confused myself. Apologies.
 
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Just a heads up I have experience in fraud investigations and working with legal authorities. Please know that to truly uncover the truth from an audit there is due diligence on innocent and guilty parties alike. Some things might look suspicious on the outside but when you look inside they are legal, and vice versa some things might appear legit at the surface but when you dig deeper its not.

IMO the majority of the NamePros investigators in this thread are looking for the truth, and not attempting to personally attack/defame. Yes there are clearly some exceptions and that is very unfortunate. Adults can usually soothe these things over though.

Ultimately what I am saying is I think the NamePros investigators should have a little leeway in their investigation as long as they are respectful and professional in their findings. They are not professional investigators or forensic accountants by trade and should not be held to those types of standards imo. I believe they have clearly uncovered enough suspicious activity to warrant further investigation on their part.
 
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This is a kick-ass community :bookworm:

Sorry I don't agree. Some of you guys are downright petty, close-minded, and mentally limited. Other than that, you guys are great. I understand that these types of events blow up like this event every three months. Unbelievable and unacceptable! Sincerely hope some of you look yourselves in the mirror and improve yourselves in the future. Sorry to be blunt but too many of you need it.

You are very interesting.

You have been a member at namePros for 22 days and you have extremely interesting thoughts about our community already.

How do you come up with the idea, this kind of events blow up every 3 months?

I want to highlight that these comments are coming from someone who is promoting 'Art of War" with a "Peace" symbol domain.

But let`s not get so pessimist, he is right about some part:

"you guys are great."

P.S
I have used highlights and colors, so our fellow "mentally limited members" can understand what is right and what is wrong.

( @xn--v4h.com )
 
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You have to click "View All Bids" otherwise it just provides a summary of the bids.

Thanks for the quick response. (leaves little time for assumptions to be made)

Just so no other assumptions are made -- Can someone outline the reasons for duplicate bids? Looking at time of each bid after a double bid, it matches the time of the last double bid. It appears to be a Proxy bid. Hoping for a Pro explanation...

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From NameJet

http://www.namejet.com/Pages/FAQ.aspx#bidding

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Being that I'm trying to gain a full handle on NameJet rules - what's the difference between blind bidding and proxy bidding? Aren't proxy's blind in nature? Or is it simply the high bid will be available at some point before the auction ends - and it's not a silent auction type.

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The question being if the current high bid is actually a blind (not published) proxy bid. This FAQ of blind bidding is perhaps misleading.
 
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Did any Namejet bidders get compensated for their losses?
 
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Just so no other assumptions are made -- Can someone outline the reasons for duplicate bids?
Likely due to a proxy bid being surpassed.
 
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So now I have 3 accounts at Namejet. My original account and two more I just opened. The second and third account are totally fake with fake names and info and each was opened with different email addresses and a visa gift card as the credit card info and google phone numbers.

I placed multiple bids on the same names from all 3 accounts.

I am ready to shill bid if anyone needs my services. I will be shilling on my own auctions when needed. :) I am obviously kidding.

I did this to see how easy it is to shill bid if I really wanted to. How the fuck in the year 2017 am I able to have 3 accounts at a supposedly secure auction house all from the same exact IP?

What a joke, and they wonder why people don't trust their company. They can't even secure the most basic entry point for people to easily shill.

@Rick Schwartz should tweet that and @equity78 should write a story about what a joke it is.
 
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Even though unlikely, it is not impossible for 100% different customers to be shown as having the same IP on NameJet (or anywhere), such as where both are connected using the same 3g/4g provider (cellular modems) in the same city. What NameJet should do is to check for duplicate accounts at least at the moment somebody decided to "verify" their account to bid $2500(?) or more. Which they may or may not be doing already. In fact they should better create a policy on duplicate accounts...
 
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Even though unlikely, it is not impossible for 100% different customers to be shown as having the same IP on NameJet (or anywhere), such as where both are connected using the same 3g/4g provider (cellular modems) in the same city.

Or they could ask @Paul Buonopaneof NamePros... ;)

They had an issue with my mobile IP and another members mobile IP several months ago. I am of the understanding they patched the issue with multiple other layers of member verification.
 
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Even though unlikely, it is not impossible for 100% different customers to be shown as having the same IP on NameJet (or anywhere), such as where both are connected using the same 3g/4g provider (cellular modems) in the same city. What NameJet should do is to check for duplicate accounts at least at the moment somebody decided to "verify" their account to bid $2500(?) or more. Which they may or may not be doing already. In fact they should better create a policy on duplicate accounts...
All I am showing is that those that really want to shill won't shill from their real account. Those that bid with their real user id's are just plain stupid when it's so easy to have alternate accounts. They will use fake accounts that are tracked to no real person. I can easily have 50 accounts if I wanted to. There has got to be a way to secure their system so they can easily track multiple accounts all coming from the same place.
 
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Just out of curiosity....is there a way to research NameJet auction archives? I paid more for a domain than I should have a few months back at auction for a .com being sold by James Booth. This discussion really sickens me. I had the choice to stop bidding at any point of course, so I take full responsibility, but now I would like to see the auction results to see who I was bidding against there at the end.
 
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Or they could ask @Paul Buonopaneof NamePros... ;)

They had an issue with my mobile IP and another members mobile IP several months ago. I am of the understanding they patched the issue with multiple other layers of member verification.
You're right. If Namepros won't let me have multiple accounts from the same IP then how come a real auction house doesn't have the same ability. It really is a joke.
 
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So what is the latest on things? I will give Namejet the benefit of the doubt when people make mistakes only if they address them, fix them, and make people whole. Maybe this has been answered, but I been out of the loop, so where do things stand?
 
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Just out of curiosity....is there a way to research NameJet auction archives? I paid more for a domain than I should have a few months back at auction for a .com being sold by James Booth. This discussion really sickens me. I had the choice to stop bidding at any point of course, so I take full responsibility, but now I would like to see the auction results to see who I was bidding against there at the end.

Log into your account and go to auctions report

http://www.namejet.com/Pages/MyAccount/reportsauctions.aspx

Filter by date range e.g. start date 1/1/2017 and end date 3/3/2017
 
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