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It's been reported that Milo Yiannopoulos purchased the domain name Hatred.com for $150,000 from a domain investor. The news of this domain sale sparked an ancillary quarrel among domain virtuosos. Kevin Murphy, a domain veteran and the authoritative blogger of Domain Incite, tweeted:
Give this domainer a big hand for ripping off Milo Yiannopoulos to the tune of $138,000 https://dsad.com/breaking-richa… #domains

That tweet caused a host of other domain experts and veterans alike to reply disharmoniously.

Shane Cultra (@Domain Shane) wrote:
A guy that writes articles about domain investing for a living, says that someone who sold a domain at a good profit is ripping someone off. That the person buying the domain is being stupid.
I think the buyer has free will and chooses what he wants to spend on the domain. If the seller agrees to that price and everyone is happy there is no such thing as ripping people off.

Ali Zandi (@Ali) replied:
An investor makes a nice sale and your choice words are "rip off"? C'mon dude. What?
Everyone who invests in domains and sells them for a profit is ripping people off? Why does anyone invest in anything then?

Richard Dynas (@uglydork), the seller of Hatred.com to Mr. Yiannopoulos, replied:
I don't ever rip anyone off and I dare you to find someone I ripped off

Joshua Schoen‏ replied:
KM, If it wasn't worth $150k to Milo then he wouldn't have bought it. He didn't get ripped off, he agreed to a price that he was fine with.
the domain will end up bringing Milo more value than it cost him to acquire it

Adam Strong (@strong) replied:
Wouldn't it be a $142,000 rip off since domains are roughly $8?
Whoops. That 2nd grade math slipped by me. Make that 149,992 rip off. Even better

Kevin Murphy (@DomainIncite) defended his position:
The choice of words is perfectly valid.
I'll gladly admit to being wrong, when I am wrong. What did I do wrong?
Think about when in your life you said something was a "rip off". Did you usually mean it was theft, or just expensive?
A rip-off is also something that is overpriced

Is it? My dictionary defines rip off (slang) as:
  1. To steal from
  2. To steal
  3. To exploit, swindle, cheat, or defraud
That's it: those three. Mr. Murphy must be using a colloquial definition from his neck of the woods. (Did you pick up on my colloquialism?) IMO, a domain name is worth the price that a seller and buyer agree to at that moment. "Rip off" is a poor depiction of a harmonious deal.

What do you think of when you hear that a person is ripping off someone?

Does it mean overpriced? :bookworm:
 
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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
Every one of us know this is how domain investing works. Domain Incite is stirring controversy for the same reason DSAD interviewed Richard.
 
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I don't understand everything else that is going on around this, but from taking a domain that was marketed, and unsold, and to find out the right end user, and get them to pay for a 1 word .com, that is why we are all here. This guy hit the grand slam, this is what domaining is all about. Like I said taking everything else aside on the pure domain sale side of it, it's an amazing sale, and the seller made it all happen, otherwise it would still be sitting in their account.
 
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Value is in the eyes of the beholder.

Some will see it, some won't, some will hate regardless.
 
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What an idiotic and ridiculous tweet from Kevin Murphy.
 
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Apart from my opinion in support of @uglydork, everything I shared is posted publicly by other people and searchable. I gave a sourced summary of what happened because it was fragmented.

I didn't use @uglydork's name in the title, because it's not about him. I could have used Mr. Murphy's name in the title, but I chose to use Mr. Murphy's words in the title, because his words caught my eye on Twitter. Mr. Yiannopoulos is presumably elated whenever his name is in a title.

IMO, this is an important discourse to have. I was also questioning whether more people think of "expensive" or "overpriced" when they hear rip off, as Mr. Murphy tweeted. Contrarily, I haven't read any replies that corroborate his definition.
 
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Great sale really - it ought to be spun as something emphasizing the value of domains for the industry. After all - we are buying/selling/trading ONE OF A KIND assets - not some stock, not fiat currency printed out of thin air, it's not much different than selling one of a kind physical real estate - except the upside is the whole world can come through your land/property.

The funny thing is - in this particular case, the end user will do just fine with this name. Because of his peculiar stance in the public eye there is a lot of potential for him to recoup the purchase price relatively soon.

In fact don't be surprised if the driveby fake news media like CNN starts using hatred.com to talk about Milo....He probably loves the idea of getting lost angry liberals to come click on things and add to his pot (I'm not liberal or conservative, ....registered Independent (y) )
 
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Great sale really - it ought to be spun as something emphasizing the value of domains for the industry. After all - we are buying/selling/trading ONE OF A KIND assets - not some stock, not fiat currency printed out of thin air, it's not much different than selling one of a kind physical real estate - except the upside is the whole word can come through your land/property.

The funny thing is - in this particular case, the end user will do just find with this name. Because of his peculiar stance in the public eye there is a lot of potential for him to recoup the purchase price relatively soon.

In fact don't be surprised if the driveby fake news media like CNN start using hatred.com to talk about Milo....He probably loves the idea of getting lost angry liberals to come click on things and add to his pot (I'm not liberal or conservative, ....registered Independent (y) )
The name is perfect for him. Milo,his team and I talked at great length about this being a brand. All of this nonsense and all the nonsense on other message boards is only fueling his name and brand. hatred is probably worth more than he paid already. I would have never gotten this much out fo it if I would have developed it.
 
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The name is perfect for him. Milo,his team and I talked at great length about this being a brand. All of this nonsense and all the nonsense on other message boards is only fueling his name and brand. hatred is probably worth more than he paid already. I would have never gotten this much out fo it if I would have developed it.


Pretty genius to link the perfect buyer for this name, Congrats!

Can't think of a more appropriate end user.
 
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I smell jealousy.

Milo is a great guy btw.
 
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Great sale to a fellow upstate New Yorker!! Congratulations!
 
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Milo is a great guy
He is awesome

I personally disagree with Milos content / narrative. (hence why I disliked the above posts) That said, this is why it's this perfect domain for him and his brand. A category defining buzz word that represents viral responses.

Did you or (Milo's people) ever mention the domain, Hate.com as a potential prospect?

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I personally disagree with Milos content / narrative. (hence why I disliked the above posts) That said, this is why it's this perfect domain for him and his brand. A category defining buzz word that represents viral responses.

Did you or (Milo's people) ever mention the domain, Hate.com as a potential prospect?

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Heck No! I was trying to sell mine :)
 
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That is not a rip-off, that is a great sale! Now what is a rip-off is having having my wife steal my domain sale money to remodel our bathroom, she ripped me off;)
 
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The term "rip off" is a shocker in this context and was no doubt the wrong term, the buyer is happy and has a great brand name (in certain music circles this name is gold I tells ya) A good sale for all involved !
 
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The name is perfect for him. ...I would have never gotten this much out fo it if I would have developed it.

Haven't read all comments, but @uglydork -- congrats, man. I believe (but don't 100% remember) that we crossed paths back when I was @FlippaDomains and we tried to market this at auction. It was a tough sell back then -- geared better towards an end user, but the big question was 'who'.

I'm with @Grilled ~ Milo's not my personal cup of tea. But he's a savvy marketer and this is smart for his future projects. My personal political views aside, this was a great sale. Congrats again.
 
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I must be so out of the loop, I never even heard of Kevin Murphy nor have I heard of Milo? I don't read domaining.com, and I don't watch the news. Domaining is just not the same since I got to party with Ron Jeremy and the Playboy bunnies at the Playboy Mansion at DomainFest in 2009:)

I do like Nampros though, cool hangout with cool people!
 
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News to me:
@Rick Schwartz says
JUNE 26, 2017 AT 11:42 AM

[The seller, Mr. Dynas] offered the domain on my Twitter thread many times. We all passed. Then he went out and had a grand slam homerun. Kudos! Isn’t that the name of the business? Should be a lesson to folks.
@Rick Schwartz says
JUNE 26, 2017 AT 9:25 AM

Kevin Murphy has a very low regard for domainers. He covers our industry to make money. So if anybody is ripping anybody off…

He is driven by the jealousy and hatred of domainers. All you have to do is read his stories and his choice of adjectives. He is not a journalist imho
 
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Yeah hatred.com is a very strong, controversial word. It's very memorable. Congrats on your sale.

Domain valuations are tough and there is an element of subjectivity to them. However, it's commonly agreed dictionary words are the most valuable.

I can't understand these "rip-off" comments, that is illogical given the subjectivity of domain valuations.
 
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You know you have made it when your story has been translated into Chinese as news half way across the world! news.ename.cn/yumingjiaoyi_20170626_109337_1.html Hats off to you, @uglydork!
 
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What a boat load of crap! Would he turned down that money if it were offered to him? Hypocrites everywhere. Who the hell does he think he is to determine what is rip off? Jealous dolt.

Do I blame them? The seller should have NEVER revealed anything about his sale and now the news might get to the buyer.
 
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The seller should have NEVER revealed anything about his sale and now the news might get to the buyer.

The buyer thrives on controversy..... any press is good press to him.
 
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What a boat load of crap! Would he turned down that money if it were offered to him? Hypocrites everywhere. Who the hell does he think he is to determine what is rip off? Jealous dolt.

Do I blame them? The seller should have NEVER revealed anything about his sale and now the news might get to the buyer.
The buyer and I had an agreement to release the sale - you should have asked me first
 
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