Domain Sherpa VS Domain King. About to Fight?

atinc said:

Rick you threatened Michael on Twitter!

With his Sponsors!

Can`t you see why he is not responding?

If you came up with a decent conversation you would have your response IMO.

But probably you threatened him offline as well since you have no shame to do it publicly!

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After 3 days of being ignored that happened so get your facts right!

"Why do You take it Personal?"

The other poster (Coldtrigger) nailed it:

"it's the lack of respect with the perceived shunning of Rick when he wants simple clarification either way. If that is true, it does seem that Rick is being unfairly treated by being ignored."

BINGO!!!

A simple email or tweet and NONE of this would have happened. NONE.

And there was no contact anywhere but Twitter since a March 3rd email in which we have been waiting for him to get back to us. SIMPLE!

Ali said:

To bear witness to our industries thought leaders attacking & being attacked by one another in this light, is tragic, to say the least.

On one hand, you have some of the most notable investors (Schwartz & Berkens) in our industry, those we’ve all looked up to, volunteering their time, knowledge, and experience over the course of many years to a wonderful show that has helped not only myself but many others along the way. On the other hand, you have Cyger, one the kindest, smartest and most giving people I know who had to make an impossible lose/lose decision to take down content that he himself spent countless hours curating, editing, and producing.

No one wins here. At all. Not the guests of the show who’s content were poisoned by a con-artist, not the viewers of the show (those who fell for the con and those who’ll miss out on the knowledge of the other guests) and surely not Michael Cyger himself.

No matter how valuable the information both Berkens, Schwartz, and other notable guests provided in those episodes… there was a con-artist that poisoned the episodes and that alone would have caused far more damage long term to our industry, disclaimers or not.

This is about more than the people who gave their time - this about ensuring the thousands upon thousands of viewers and future viewers will not be harmed by the poison that infected the content and industry, this is about cleaning up, however we can. Tough decisions had to and will continue to have to be made throughout the course of our industries existence. No matter where and by whom.

Life is too short to let the fallout of one bad seed destroy and come between the good ones. Let it go - move on, create new and better things from all that the experience has taught. Not the other way around.

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I agree. Life is WAY too short! A simple reply and ALL this would have been avoided. Can't anyone see that?? Was STUNNED and SHOCKED and still am. But we got treated WORSE than Dicker. Why? What did we do wrong? What was OUR crime?? Asked for clarification and expected a pretty simple answer either way. Not to be treated like we had leprocy. Not good for anyone.

Rick Schwartz said:

After 3 days of being ignored that happened so get your facts right!

"Why do You take it Personal?"

The other poster (Coldtrigger) nailed it:

"it's the lack of respect with the perceived shunning of Rick when he wants simple clarification either way. If that is true, it does seem that Rick is being unfairly treated by being ignored."

BINGO!!!

A simple email or tweet and NONE of this would have happened. NONE.

And there was no contact anywhere but Twitter since a March 3rd email in which we have been waiting for him to get back to us. SIMPLE!

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Rick,

What's the point in having this argument?

Everyone respects all of you so much, and look up to you guys.
Isn't it possible just to handle this privately or if that doesn't work, completely ignore it as i'm sure you can understand why he took down the videos.

Anyways i hope all of this gets resolved soon as you guys might just not realise it or are just "used to it." But there are i'm sure over 100s of thousands of domainers, and mostly all off them look upto to you guys, by doing this it affects both of you.

I still hope you both can have a professional conversation privately, and i also hope after a few days one of you comes here and says "it was just a misunderstanding, and everything is resolved now."

Best

It's clear @DomainSherpa wanted to distance himself as much as possible from the dicker thing, so all videos were rightfully taken down. I understand @Rick Schwartz and Berkins have lost out as a result.
A solution would have been to edit the videos and remove all Dicker content. Not sure if that's attainable anymore.

I can understand @Rick Schwartz's frustration, anyone ignoring anyone is not cool and is certainly not professional.

@Domain Shane, interesting blog post.

Rick Schwartz said:

After 3 days of being ignored that happened so get your facts right!

"Why do You take it Personal?"

The other poster (Coldtrigger) nailed it:

"it's the lack of respect with the perceived shunning of Rick when he wants simple clarification either way. If that is true, it does seem that Rick is being unfairly treated by being ignored."

BINGO!!!

A simple email or tweet and NONE of this would have happened. NONE.

And there was no contact anywhere but Twitter since a March 3rd email in which we have been waiting for him to get back to us. SIMPLE!

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I don`t know any of you in person but I know all of you with your online presence.

As far as I know, Michael is a nice guy and he would like to keep his friendships no matter what happens.

Even with Dicker situation, he left open doors for him wishing he could clear up his mess.

And as far as I see, you have an aggressive personality. Right?

I don`t think he ignored you, probably he didn't respond because he wanted to keep his friendship with you.

If he had a conversation with you while you are frustrated, you might say thinks that could damage your friendship.

As I said, I don`t know any of you personally but I know all of you with your online presence.

I hope everyone in this thread remembers that you can only edit posts for 30 minutes and you can't delete them - think twice before saying anything you could regret.

I've sometimes been mystified by non-responses only to find their was a technical or medical issue.

king112233 said:

Rick,

What's the point in having this argument?

Everyone respects all of you so much, and look up to you guys.
Isn't it possible just to handle this privately or if that doesn't work, completely ignore it as i'm sure you can understand why he took down the videos.

Anyways i hope all of this gets resolved soon as you guys might just not realise it or are just "used to it." But there are i'm sure over 100s of thousands of domainers, and mostly all off them look upto to you guys, by doing this it affects both of you.

I still hope you both can have a professional conversation privately, and i also hope after a few days one of you comes here and says "it was just a misunderstanding, and everything is resolved now."

Best

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Would like nothing more but we have been BANISHED. RADIO SILENCE is what started this entire fiasco and why it continues. Once communication lines are broken (and we did not break them) NOTHING good happens. Things spin out of control.

atinc said:

I don`t know any of you in person but I know all of you with your online presence.

I don`t think he ignored you, probably he didn't respond because he wanted to keep his friendship with you.

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It didn't work.

This is an aged-old, fundamental dilemma that has been happening for centuries...

I coin it, the "Tommy Gun and Rocky" effect.

The unknown becomes known, the one who had zero clout now has clout, mainly because of the good will, generosity, and help from others, then they reach a point where they feel they no longer need to give recognition or stay forever indebted because time has past, relationships change, and they've been standing on their own.

IMO there are no rights or wrongs, it's all a matter of personal perception, how deep ones loyalties and gratitude run, and how understanding of the mentor(s) that today is a new day..

Personally, I myself would always, show some sort of recognition, gratitude, and respect no matter how much time has passed or the current status of the relationship, as long as it was not negatively effecting my progression, but that's just me and I'm big on loyalty and appreciation. (I'm a Leo)

But at the same time, I understand that people shouldn't do things for other people expecting to be praised for the rest of their/your life, you did it because you wanted to, and if they don't give you the type of respect, recognition, etc that you feel you rightfully deserve, you accept it, move on, and/or stop helping anyone else for the rest of your life because most people don't think the way you do, and some are just a*holes, but then at the end of the day, you become an a*hole too.

Otherwise, if you had your own personal interests in mind while helping the person, and those interests are no longer being met, that's what contracts are for and in time you learn who did or didn't need the contract but at least you crossed your t's and dotted your i's since the definition of respect and loyalty varies from person to person.

You're just a big bully aren't you Rick. (Spoken in a sulking childish voice) 'Michael wouldn't get back to me so I'm going to ruin his online reputation and destroy his business because I'm Rick Schwartz!' Nobodys perfect and Cyger's inability to confront difficult issues pertaining to business, he definitely needs to work on that. But throwing tantrums with the intent to put him out of a job, pretty disgusting if you ask me.

NamesCon 2018

Rick Schwartz said:

Would like nothing more but we have been BANISHED. RADIO SILENCE is what started this entire fiasco and why it continues. Once communication lines are broken (and we did not break them) NOTHING good happens. Things spin out of control.

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Rick it sounds like he told you what he was going to do in March but you didn't like it. So you're shocked, dismayed and feel shunned because he won't respond to you with the same message that he gave you in March? So if Cyger had emailed, tweeted, called, used a courier service, or a naked singing telegram saying "they're not going back up" you would have been ok with that? I don't think so, since the point of this is that you're pissed about the content being removed.

Your anger is misplaced, Dicker did this to you Rick not Cyger. Drive to Toronto if you want and punch him in the face or verbally Twitterape him instead of Cyger.

I thought you and Berkens were retired? Why do you give a shit so much? You know this was all about expunging Dicker from any content and not about disrespecting you and Berkens. 19 hours ago you tweeted the link to the namepros thread "is Adam Dicker a criminal" and said "had no idea", that post is 2 years old.

It's like you retired, didn't care or pay attention to any of this, got tired of golfing everyday and eating applesauce, then woke up pissed and decided to rave like a madman about old news.

But I still respect you, cuz sometimes we all lose our cool. I imagine i'd get really frustrated too being locked up in a nursing home eating applesauce all day. You don't have to eat it, they give it to you because it's easy for a retired persons stomach to digest and sometimes they slip the medications into the applesauce so you wont' taste it, not to mention that it's easier to swallow crushed up.

I'm just messing with you, seriously though I learned a lot from your old episodes sorry to see that they're gone, but I know why they are. If it's any consolation, I had them all memorized and they helped shape me as a domainer, so I feel like they're not really gone, but rather a part of who I am.

Both of them loves collaborating and exchanging ideas with others. R loves the clean feeling and healthy competition but doesn't hesitate to shake your hand and and beliefs. M clearly understand the time-lapse and the tears fluid of domain investors suffering from dry eyes. Also R & M attitude can help you establish a wide range of rewarding opportunities. Anyhow R & M please make sure your domaining children doesn't suffer from hydrocephalus.

Loxline said:

Both of them loves collaborating and exchanging ideas with others. R loves the clean feeling and healthy competition but doesn't hesitate to shake your hand and and beliefs. M clearly understand the time-lapse and the tears fluid of domain investors suffering from dry eyes. Also R & M attitude can help you establish a wide range of rewarding opportunities. Anyhow R & M please make sure your domaining children doesn't suffer from hydrocephalus.

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king112233 said:

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students

There is no competition here.
It's just opposite personalities colliding.

When this is all set and done, they will be laughing back at that post. This is not another Adam dicker thread or anything close to that.

@Rick Schwartz @DomainSherpa


http://www.domainsherpa.com/rick-schwartz-domainking-interview/

Cyger doesn't even return an email if you are not a paying customer apparently. Sent him three with questions and ZERO replies.

Addison said:

In a nutty shell:

1. Rick Schwartz and Michael Berkens volunteered their time on Michael Cyger's DomainSherpa, alongside Adam Dicker.
2. Mr. Dicker stole money from people.
3. Mr. Cyger deleted all of the videos with Adam Dicker, including the videos where he was alongside Mr. Schwartz and Mr. Berkens. Why? To halt others from falling victim to Mr. Dicker.
4. Mr. Schwartz and Mr. Berkens asked for an explanation from Mr. Cyger.
   
5. Mr. Cyger will not respond to them. IMO, on good advice from his attorney.
6. Mr. Berkens wants the videos back up. IMO, Mr. Cyger's attorney has said that's a liability because of Mr. Dicker.
   
7. Mr. Schwartz is angry that they're being ignored by Mr. Cyger after all of the superb help they bestowed upon him.

Then they lived happily ever after.

Sleep tight.

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wow

I really thought that happend
2 years ago

did he really retire
and now
he un retired?
and suddenly got upset??

come on
that makes no sense

Domaining has the lowest bar of entry, 10 bucks and access to a computer so can't say I'm surprised by some of the comments here.

Rick and Mike deserved a response, still do.

Why doesn't @DomainSherpa just invite @Rick Schwartz and Mike Berkens back to a brand new show to replace the deleted content?
For starters, the opening tension would create immediate fan appeal and I can never get enough of Rick calling me a Pigeonshit Farmer!
What's not to like about a brand new Domain Sherpa show featuring Rick Schwartz and Michael Berkens.
Ratings would go through the roof! So how bout it Michael @DomainSherpa?
Would you do a new show @Rick Schwartz? and Mr.Berkens?
Anybody else think they'd like to see this now?
My seat for the big show below!

Did I mention I offer mediation services, or is it meditation services, I can't remember?...Anyways, I soften the tone with red roses for everyone involved. In addition, I give out a teddy bear that when squeezed says, "I LOVE YOU!"...With red roses in one hand and a talking teddy bear in the other hand, there is no situation that can't be fixed.......

Lots of varied personalities. I really do miss all of the personalities mixing, clashing, but most of all - offering their experience and advice as they used to.

Its definitely not the same these days but it isnt horrible either. I still listen intently. Would love to see everyone, sans Dicker - who scammed me pretty well, get back together again.

Selling domains is hard, maintaining good friendship is even harder

atinc said:

I don`t know any of you in person but I know all of you with your online presence.
I don`t think he ignored you, probably he didn't respond because he wanted to keep his friendship with you.

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Rick Schwartz said:

It didn't work.

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well, all I know about the whole thing is what I have seen posted here over the last few days but if that doesn't make it apparent that it is being taken personally and emotions have taken over any logical thought processing I not sure what would.

TheDot.shop said:

Why doesn't @DomainSherpa just invite @Rick Schwartz and Mike Berkens back to a brand new show to replace the deleted content? Show attachment 61280

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There you go, that's the one. Anyone want to set the over/under? August 1? Halloween?

teddy bears are good but I not so sure about one that can talk.

This is so petty and silly.
I saw a reference to this "blow up" and thought it might have been something really about something.

Everyone knows that Dicker was rightfully scoured from domainsherpa and should be from the domain industry completely.

DomainSherpa and it's content are Cyger's.

What explanation is needed.

I respect Mr. Schwartz and Mr. Berkins and Mr. Cyger for the amazing knowledge they have shared and the pioneering they have done for this industry. As someone who discovered domain investing a it years ago, you guys have helped me turn a $300 initial investment into six figures in an account and a thousands of valuable investments.

I also commend Cyger for ignoring this bullshit.