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I was lookong at other gTLD and ccLD to see if i could get any one words L, LL, LLL, LLLL of anything and its all taken! every where in all the gtld and cctld. So why everyone on the interenet sais to not invest in those? Everyone already invested there. I dont get it?
 
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the "value" in new gTLD's are in the common person being able to register them when they need it. in theory this should be what happens because domainers wont be able to keep up and hold everything, theres too much.

the registries themselves are the new domainers.. that is what changed. overall you cannot compete with them because they're not paying renewal fees - they have placed themselves in the domainer shoes (aka selling premium retail) while still selling at the wholesale rate. makes sense to be the wholesale supplier and the boutique store if it doesnt cost any extra.

this whole thing boils down to how long does a mindset last. the overwhelming mindset is still .com, but there is no real reason for it beyond thats the way it was and everyone copying everyone else. kind of like fashion.. if things like that change over the years then the sentiment that ".com means important serious thing" is entirely possible to fade out of existence.
 
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dont invest in them but dont be silly and think they wont be used allllllllll the time in the future. there will be so many of them at some point you will see a ".com" and smirk.

gTLD looks cleaner and it will win overall. do people still include the "www." when they tell you a website? how about the "http://".... you smirk when you hear some old guy on the news still say "www."

we're past those extra letters, man. just give me the cleanly worded website separated by a dot... airline.reviews, oh thanks man... should i add some extra crap at the end so i know thats a thing on the internet?

.com used to sorta mean "the internet" but now everything is on the internet so it doesnt even matter. the kids have no attachment to the ".com means serious important internet business" mentality.

people click those crazy looking shortcut links all the time. how is that trustworthy and professional? its not, yet it became the norm all over social media - try predicting that one back in the day. i gotta go but heres a totally cool, safe, non virus, link you should click:

https://no_url_shorteners/grm92O

Mmmm..or maybe it will be so many as you said that ppl will get confused and . com will be in top again because its easy and its older and not confusing.
 
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this logic only goes so far..

what if you visit 50 websites within a year and they're all .com.... does that make it easy to remember even close to all the exact URL's ?

remembering anything is confusing, even the greatest phone number in the world - when i have 15 of them to "remember" have me quote them all back to you, sure....

people are not memorizing websites in the first place unless its something they go to everyday.
 
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this logic only goes so far..

what if you visit 50 websites within a year and they're all .com.... does that make it easy to remember even close to all the exact URL's ?

remembering anything is confusing, even the greatest phone number in the world - when i have 15 of them to "remember" have me quote them all back to you, sure....

people are not memorizing websites in the first place unless its something they go to everyday.
What i mean is .com is the first thing ppl know , you tell them to go check out something online and they will think is a . com, not anything else.
 
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What i mean is .com is the first thing ppl know , you tell them to go check out something online and they will think is a . com, not anything else.

people do not just add .com to a set of words when you tell them to check out a topic online unless you are a time traveler from he 1990's... what you are describing is how people use search engines today even for websites they visit everyday... i.e. many people type "facebook" into google search simply to log on and never have typed the domain name in their entire life. the one that pops up top of google is going to be the one with the most content and most popular - that takes the majority of the confusion out of it and actually represents the reality of how people use and search the internet today.

also, the logic that a .com is always easier to remember is flawed when you start to get into 3 and 4 word domains that arnt common phrases... i.e. everything left.

domainers are the only ones trying to memorize how many gTLD there are... nobody else is doing this and it serves zero purpose to try and "keep track" of how many exists.
 
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people do not just add .com to a set of words when you tell them to check out a topic online unless you are a time traveler from he 1990's... what you are describing is how people use search engines today even for websites they visit everyday... i.e. many people type "facebook" into google search simply to log on and never have typed the domain name in their entire life. the one that pops up top of google is going to be the one with the most content and most popular - that takes the majority of the confusion out of it and actually represents the reality of how people use and search the internet today.

also, the logic that a .com is always easier to remember is flawed when you start to get into 3 and 4 word domains that arnt common phrases... i.e. everything left.

domainers are the only ones trying to memorize how many gTLD there are... nobody else is doing this and it serves zero purpose to try and "keep track" of how many exists.

Ok but big company still prefer to buy a Com then anything ells. 2 million for freedoms . com and not 2 millions for freedom . what ever ells.
 
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Ok but big company still prefer to buy a Com then anything ells. 2 million for freedoms . com and not 2 millions for freedom . what ever ells.
OK, so sell your car, then sell your house, then sell house of your parents, the also eventually houses of all your friends..with those proceeds then buy domain similar to freedom com (some nice 1 keyworder in .com), and then try to resell it for profit for big company .. good luck :)
 
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. if things like that change over the years then the sentiment that ".com means important serious thing" is entirely possible to fade out of existence.

if that happens then all domains would be worthless regardless of extension. not sure why you believe that would work in your favor. it is just wishful thinking.

first it is wishful thinking that companies will not buy .com for a lot of money has they have been for the last 20 years, second it is wishful thinking that if they would not do this anymore they would pay big money for .whatever.

here a few scenarios.

.com and extensions will not matter anymore = much larger supply, low prices for all domains --- .whatever investors lose

.com will not matter anymore, .whatever keywords will be popular= registries will sell great keywords, your .whatever handregs not worth much ----> .whatever investors lose

.com will remain popular = .whatever not worth much ---> .whatever investors lose.

from an investment perspective it is a horrible risk/reward ratio.

if they are successful the registries make a lot of money and you very little if any.
if they are not successful your domains are worthless.

at the moment it looks like they are not going to be successful.

investors are betting on the dilution of .com not realising that dilution would mean that their domains would be diluted as well and not worth much anymore.
 
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if that happens then all domains would be worthless regardless of extension. not sure why you believe that would work in your favor. it is just wishful thinking.

first it is wishful thinking that companies will not buy .com for a lot of money has they have been for the last 20 years, second it is wishful thinking that if they would not do this anymore they would pay big money for .whatever.

here a few scenarios.

.com and extensions will not matter anymore = much larger supply, low prices for all domains --- .whatever investors lose

.com will not matter anymore, .whatever keywords will be popular= registries will sell great keywords, your .whatever handregs not worth much ----> .whatever investors lose

.com will remain popular = .whatever not worth much ---> .whatever investors lose.

from an investment perspective it is a horrible risk/reward ratio.

if they are successful the registries make a lot of money and you very little if any.
if they are not successful your domains are worthless.

at the moment it looks like they are not going to be successful.

investors are betting on the dilution of .com not realising that dilution would mean that their domains would be diluted as well and not worth much anymore.
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if that happens then all domains would be worthless regardless of extension. not sure why you believe that would work in your favor. it is just wishful thinking.

first it is wishful thinking that companies will not buy .com for a lot of money has they have been for the last 20 years, second it is wishful thinking that if they would not do this anymore they would pay big money for .whatever.

here a few scenarios.

.com and extensions will not matter anymore = much larger supply, low prices for all domains --- .whatever investors lose

.com will not matter anymore, .whatever keywords will be popular= registries will sell great keywords, your .whatever handregs not worth much ----> .whatever investors lose

.com will remain popular = .whatever not worth much ---> .whatever investors lose.

from an investment perspective it is a horrible risk/reward ratio.

if they are successful the registries make a lot of money and you very little if any.
if they are not successful your domains are worthless.

at the moment it looks like they are not going to be successful.

investors are betting on the dilution of .com not realising that dilution would mean that their domains would be diluted as well and not worth much anymore.


hi, you misunderstood me. first, i never said it would "work out in my favor."

people can make predictions that dont work out in their favor. its allowed, i checked with the judges.

as far as "domains becoming worthless".... who will they be worthless to? consumers or domainers? if you answered domainers, then only people on this forum care... the real world doesnt want domains to have an inflated value in the first place.

in your list of possible scenarios you forgot one: consumers win, by choice.
 
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I was lookong at other gTLD and ccLD to see if i could get any one words L, LL, LLL, LLLL of anything and its all taken! every where in all the gtld and cctld. So why everyone on the interenet sais to not invest in those? Everyone already invested there. I dont get it?

Maybe you can find one word domains for small country cctlds, like .fi (Finland)? I recently got "wet" in .fi and will hopefully develop it at some point.
 
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OK, so sell your car, then sell your house, then sell house of your parents, the also eventually houses of all your friends..with those proceeds then buy domain similar to freedom com (some nice 1 keyworder in .com), and then try to resell it for profit for big company .. good luck :)

Is not what im saying ..im just saying that big companys still want to spend millions on .com and not yet on other gtld.
Maybe someday they will but at this time they don't.
 
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https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/top_level_domain/all

Here is some data to show developed websites on which extensions. Clearly .Com is way ahead, even .net and .org are a fraction. Most of the nGtlds are not even on the radar. Some have a minor share like ..Club, .xyz (1 cent pricing drove that) If you also note the Cctld's are on the chart and I would suspect most likely to continue to have higher growth.
 
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Maybe you can find one word domains for small country cctlds, like .fi (Finland)? I recently got "wet" in .fi and will hopefully develop it at some point.
I would be careful though as if the word fits and is universal, if not Translate it to match the native language.
 
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https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/top_level_domain/all

Here is some data to show developed websites on which extensions. Clearly .Com is way ahead, even .net and .org are a fraction. Most of the nGtlds are not even on the radar. Some have a minor share like ..Club, .xyz (1 cent pricing drove that) If you also note the Cctld's are on the chart and I would suspect most likely to continue to have higher growth.

Yah, is what i was saying, .com is still the most popular of all and companys and ppl still prefer it. It will change someday but not yet so it be hard to just invest in the new gltd and keep them for years. I personally cant do that.
 
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I see no reasons why one should invest in future to be! Instead of going for active extension. Though, there are rarity of good .coms in the pool, but I believed one could still find lots of gems in the drooped.
Even when you have the gem at hand; you still need to wait for the buyer to come or look for them, not to talk of future time when the NGTlds will mature before thinking of looking for good buyer

We human don't and can not think equally till eternity will come, for sure.

Plenty of the NGTLDs has already constituted unsaturated situations in the market. Lots of confusion in the market and that is even giving power to .com in the market.
 
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Yah, is what i was saying, .com is still the most popular of all and companys and ppl still prefer it. It will change someday but not yet so it be hard to just invest in the new gltd and keep them for years. I personally cant do that.
How do you know it will change someday? Sure, there will come a day that domains won't be needed anymore. Imo until that day comes .com will remain on top of all extensions. And after that day it doesn't matter anymore anyways.
 
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All his own figures he made public on stage. Check with anyone that was there.

12-15K income per year.
88K average renewals per year.
At least 65K losses.

I think he was very enthusiastic because he had his own test in which he "won" over.com. Based on a waitress named Carol (named altered to protect his identity). He called it the Carol test. He and some friends were at a restaurant and their waitress was named Carol. So they asked would you prefer Carol.com or Carol.world (which he owned). The waitress preferred Carol world, which apparently gave him the impression that the corporate world felt the same when presented with the option between a .com and a nGTLD.

So he won the Carol test. But lost 65K yearly..


thats why carol is a waitress )) and not a CEO of dotcom company))
 
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I would be curious to see a few examples of how much you paid and sold for. That would be a good way to show the potential for a domainer with the new extensions.

ROI 9,900.00%
Annualized ROI 46,315.89%
Investment Length 0.75 years
 
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ROI 9,900.00%
Annualized ROI 46,315.89%
Investment Length 0.75 years

What a great example. I assume you would release the domain but it is subject to NDA :xf.rolleyes:

Brad
 
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you assume wrong

not subject to NDA
 
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To me , I still believe in new gtlds
 
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you assume wrong

not subject to NDA

I guess you did not detect the sarcasm. You posted some random numbers with no domain attached.
Rather meaningless.

Brad
 
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i did detect the poorly attempted sarcasm

i see no reason to reveal the domain as there is no need to validate your incompetence

if the numbers don't make sense you should start learning maths
 
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