new gtlds Everyone saying to not invest in gTLD

Bram C. said:

I guess @Rhythm8 crapped his pants .

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you should see a dr for diarrhea of the mouth

dordomai said:

in case you haven't noticed, the thread title is: Everyone saying to not invest in gTLD

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in case you haven't noticed it the comment wasn't referring to this thread

is english not your native language as it seems your comprehension of the english language is weak

Rhythm8 said:

you should see a dr for diarrhea of the mouth

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When is your appointment?

Bram C. said:

When is your appointment?

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Don't need it

Rhythm8 said:

Going off-topic in every thread...

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Rhythm8 said:

you should see a dr for diarrhea of the mouth

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yeah, exactly. You're going off-topic in every thread. Ever heard of the expression "The pot calling the kettle black?".

Bram C. said:

yeah, exactly. You're going off-topic in every thread.

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my apologies, allow me to edit to address your concern:

everyone saying to not invest in gtld should see a dr for diarrhea of the mouth

Bram C. said:

Notice how it's always the same accounts hyping nGTLDs in every thread? (.com or new gTLD related).

To stay on topic: I don't think the new gTLDs are a wise investment for the dozens of reasons already mentioned. What people do with their money is their business though. At the end of the day it doesn't affect my business one bit if some domain investor buys some new gTLDs.

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How long do you think we have to keep new gTLDs before they will be as big as COMs If we invest in them?

Steger13 said:

How long do you think we have to keep new gTLDs before they will be as big as COMs If we invest in them?

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None of them will ever come even close to .com (imo).

Bram C. said:

I guess @Rhythm8 crapped his pants .

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lol

One day Rhythm8 visited namebio.com. After that he registered crappedpants.club and went to amazon.com to buy himself new pants. End of the story( and investment career)

Bram C. said:

None of them will ever come even close to .com (imo).

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Ahh ok i see..so unless is a 2 or 3 LLL word is not worth to get them?

Steger13 said:

Ahh ok i see..so unless is a 2 or 3 LLL word is not worth to get them?

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why LLL? best combos are exact match terms IMO (USED.CARS)

post from 5 years ago. history tends to repeat itself. at that time .co and .xxx was the hot new thing that would compete with .com

the discussions and the arguments are more less the same.

LOL this reminds me, me and a few other people were arguing with a guy a few weeks ago on elliot’s blog about the .co extension. He said”. .co is the new .com, com is no longer noticed, and .co’s are becoming more popular”.

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Hilarious, defensive post. People want .co’s. Deal with it. I get inquiries almost every day now.

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Interesting how you constantly put down .CO and praise .com; yet when looking at the majority of your sales each month, Rick, they are all .CO. Very sneaky.

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I told those scumbag pumpers at DNF that the whole thing was a fraud and a joke. They were pumping .co and when O.co was announced they got all excited. They got so defensive when I told them what a scam the whole game was.

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As far as I can tell you have Mike Berkens, Morgan Linton, Frank Schilling and others pushing this parade of .co and other extensions. It truly is sad to see them do this and expect the public to benefit from it.With our exhaustive, collective domain knowledge we have a moral responsibility to guide lemmings in the right direction, so I hope those that are pushing .co and the other new gTLDs actually believe what they say, otherwise it is a disservice to the public to knowingly guide them to a miserable fate.

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You might thing that it was an “upgrade” acquisition by a .Co site to the .Com.

However Wantable.com is being forwarded to Wantable.co

We are all used to seeing .com owners buying .co domain names as defensive purchases and then having the .co forward to the .com version but here the .com was the defensive purchase and the .Co domain is the site.

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What do you expect from him. He owns so many .coms that he is SCARED

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http://www.ricksblog.com/2012/03/birdie-in-the-mine-doa-we-now-have-a-cause-of-death/#.WSQpZZLyjg1

http://www.ricksblog.com/2013/04/not-so-fast-mr-berkens/#.WSQs3JKLTg0

lol @ .xyz (this is for Internet.bs customers):

The registry will no longer subsidize your shoddy xyz housing, but don't move out yet! You might hit a small jackpot, so renew that lease for your free scratch off ticket (just as long as you don't leave the xyz ghetto).

.xxx and .co compete with .com?

wow you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel...

using nonsensical examples doesn't make your argument any stronger

keyword gtlds hold industry wide meaning in their respective niches

p.s. google.ai

I do believe there are some interesting nTLD combinations....

Running.shoes
Miami.condos
Stock.tips
Auto.repair

Combinations like these could potentially be turned into businesses though the general public might still be confused about the dot in the middle. Names like these are not going to be available for $10 registration and $10 renewals. Cost is certainly a consideration but I would still prefer the .COM version over the nTLD version and would be willing to pay more for the .COM version than the nTLD version.

The general public and even educated professionals and online marketers are often clueless when it comes to the branding power of domain names. They prefer to spend money on Google Adwords or all kinds of offline marketing efforts promoting their Facebook page or Youtube channel or handreg domain. The concept of paying more than $XX for a domain seems like a scam. That is the biggest challenge to new TLDs. The aftermarket for .COM domains is still limited by the perception that domain names are $XX items. Thus the 1% turnover even in mainstream domain portfolios. Alt TLD portfolios fare even worse yet renewal costs can be much higher. The opportunity for alternative extensions will be AFTER .COM domains are finally recognized as powerful brands for promoting a business - not some two-minute exercise to reg whatever one can quickly find available with a bulk search tool.

buywebsites.biz said:

lol @ .xyz (this is for Internet.bs customers):

We are giving away $2500 US Dollars in credit at Internet.bs to a lucky customer. Any existing customer who renews an .XYZ domain expiring in June 2017 will receive one entry into the draw per domain.
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The registry will no longer subsidize your shoddy xyz housing, but don't move out yet! You might hit a small jackpot, so renew that lease for your free scratch off ticket (just as long as you don't leave the xyz ghetto).

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they know that most of their bulk registrants are gamblers so that is a smart move.

Rhythm8 said:

.xxx and .co compete with .com?

wow you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel...

using nonsensical examples doesn't make your argument any stronger

keyword gtlds hold industry wide meaning in their respective niches

p.s. google.ai

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lol. I did not say that they would compete with .com. It is nonsensical really, I agree. Others did when the extensions were still considered hot.

.xxx would of course only compete with .com in the adult niche according to them. People claimed that the entire adult internet would be forced to move to .xxx. Today investors are dropping all their .xxx names because there is no market for them.

some years back they had claimed the entire mobile internet would move to .mobi.

now we have the same bubble talk. .com is obsolete, everyone will move to .whatever etc.

now we also have the same .com propaganda

propaganda works until it doesn't

guess we have to agree to disagree

but i doubt that will stop the the .com spam in blogs and fora and twitter

but hey what do i know, .commie cartel et. al know better than every other major tech company making billions of dollars and gtld

endusers are already operating gtlds other than .com
consumers are already visiting them
domainers already flipping them for 6 figures

you compare individual gtlds vs .com using same lame arguments and insults revealing your insecurities
bad data generates bad conclusions

the only real argument against gtlds are premium renewals
but then it's no different than ugly and expensive overpriced .coms
so then it's up to the end user to decide

if the gtlds had half a clue they'd drop insane renewals and let market decide

is google ai on google.ai or googleai.com?

domains aren't just boring technical solutions to ip addresses anymore,

gtlds are branding and marketing and advertising neon signs in vegas

.com might as well be a street sign nobody pays attention to

xtension is meaningless and boring
old technology
they don't show up in search
nobody types them in anymore
they don't signify status

Rhythm8 said:

now we also have the same .com propaganda

propaganda works until it doesn't

guess we have to agree to disagree

but i doubt that will stop the the .com spam in blogs and fora and twitter

but hey what do i know, .commie cartel et. al know better than every other major tech company making billions of dollars and gtld

endusers are already operating gtlds other than .com
consumers are already visiting them
domainers already flipping them for 6 figures

you compare individual gtlds vs .com using same lame arguments and insults revealing your insecurities
bad data generates bad conclusions

the only real argument against gtlds are premium renewals
but then it's no different than ugly and expensive overpriced .coms
so then it's up to the end user to decide

if the gtlds had half a clue they'd drop insane renewals and let market decide

is google ai on google.ai or googleai.com?

domains aren't just boring technical solutions to ip addresses anymore,

gtlds are branding and marketing and advertising neon signs in vegas

.com might as well be a street sign nobody pays attention to

xtension is meaningless and boring
old technology
they don't show up in search
nobody types them in anymore
they don't signify status

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But company still pays millions for a COM like freedoms. Com sold for 2 milions. That should tell us something. .com still worth a lot! And its not going away anytime soon.

Rhythm8 said:

now we also have the same .com propaganda

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.com doesn't need propaganda. The gTLDs however do. And it seems to me you're doing just that.

Rhythm8 said:

but hey what do i know, .commie cartel et. al know better than every other major tech company making billions of dollars and gtld

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Not sure I understand that... So you're claiming every major tech company is using a new gTLD? Last time I checked almost all major tech companies are operating on .com.

Rhythm8 said:

endusers are already operating gtlds other than .com

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The majority doesn't and (imo) never will.

Rhythm8 said:

consumers are already visiting them

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The majority doesn't and (imo) never will.

Rhythm8 said:

domainers already flipping them for 6 figures

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The majority doesn't and (imo) never will. Most gTLD sales happen through the registries, not domainers.

Rhythm8 said:

is google ai on google.ai or googleai.com?

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It's Google.com. Everything else is a subdivision of Google. For subdivisions sometimes they use a subdomain, sometimes a ccTLD and sometimes a new gTLD. But their main operations are obviously on .com.

Rhythm8 said:

gtlds are branding and marketing and advertising neon signs in vegas
.com might as well be a street sign nobody pays attention to

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In your alternate reality sure.

Rhythm8 said:

xtension is meaningless and boring
old technology
they don't show up in search
nobody types them in anymore

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The new gTLDs are as much extensions as .com and they use the exact same technology.

Steger13 said:

And its not going away anytime soon.

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yeah it is and sooner rather than later

below some cold hard facts. (I suggest that Rhythm visits pampers.com before he looks)


Wishful thinking is not going to change reality. The new TLDs are not even growing anymore.

com is still adding registrations at over 127 million while the new Gs are struggling to add more at just 24 million.

I think the discussion is meaningless, we are domainers, we are here to study domaining and to make money from domains, not to promote .com or any other tlds.

As a domainer since 2005, I do not care about tlds, .com, .net, .mobi, ngtlds....not an issue for me. If I can sell any tld, or can make money from any tlds, I invest there.

- registered some .com names from 2005 and kept for 10 years and dropped most names, lost money.

- registered .mobi names and sold for big profit, I got money, but my buyers lost money!

- registered .xyz names for $1-2/each, sold for huge profit $$$$$$ (I don't prefer to use xyz for any of my sites, but there are other people who like xyz names, eg. Chinese. If my thinking was like..., "I don't like xyz and I will not register any xyz",... some smart domainers should have registered those names and made money by selling to Chinese

- registered 1000s of 5L.com, 4L.biz, 4L.org, some cctlds ....lost big money

Most of us should agree. com is the best, no doubt. There is only 1 name under .com for a word and can be owned by a single company. But there are 1000s of other companies in the world with the same business. example, usedcars...com/net/.co.uk/.net...etc already taken and not possible to buy for cheap.
So, other companies have to move to other tlds. If the company is in India, .in is the best, if the company is in Canada, .ca is best for them. If it is an International company, they should use .com or used.cars or generic tlds like xyz/biz/mobi...For me, matching gtld, used.cars is 1st, .com is second!

for a city portal, I prefer... london.com / london.co.uk / london.city...not london.xyz or london.land...
for tourism portal, I prefer london.tours, not london.kitchen or london.org..
for property portal, I prefer london.property/ londonproperty.com(not possible to buy), not london.com or london.life

I purchased kerala dot property to develop as a portal for my state Kerala.
I tried to buy keralaproperty com but not for sale / asked big money. What I have to do, to start my portal?
I owned and developed .net, but nobody interested to visit the site, I closed the site recently.

If I start a tourism company in my state, Kerala, I prefer to use Kerala dot tours than kerala dot com. kerala/keralatours dot com already with some companies and not possible to get the names. So, what I have to do? Can anyone suggest a good domain name for my business? Is there any other name better than kerala dot tours? Also should note, more companies in the same field looking for similar domain names. Are there any domain names to suggest for their business?

The same happened to Google also. They started Alphabet and could not purchase abc dot com, so they selected dot xyz. Can anyone suggest suitable names for Alphabet than abc dot xyz???

Some .com promoters here always tried to downgrade gtlds. I agree, they were visionaries on their period and they made/making money with .com names. But now they are not ready to change with new generation. There are only <5000 good domain names under each ngtlds. They could not register any names from the list and they blame for others for losing their money. If they have good names, like used.cars, beach.property, cheap.flights, meat.shop, london.news, nyc.live...it is easy to sell...but unfortunately ngltd haters do not own any quality names.

Also I can't buy any good .com names for usd 1000 and also there is no guarantee to make money from the purchase. Nowadays, lot of people sell their .com names for big loss.

As per namebio report on 22nd May,

- The domain AnimalCompanion.com sold for $181 at GoDaddy for a decrease of 92%.
It last sold for $2,288 on March 11th, 2008 at Afternic.
- The domain GolfCoursesGuide.com sold for $3,001 at GoDaddy for a decrease of 95%.
It last sold for $62,000 on January 16th, 2011 at Sedo.
- The domain GodCard.com sold for $170 at NameJet for a decrease of 95%.
It last sold for $3,700 on January 6th, 2013 at Afternic.

What do you think? I request advise from .com people regarding the sale of these .com names.

im seeing

ntld Net Gain +5,622

you might want to microwave your facts

dordomai said:

below some cold hard facts.
https://namestat.org/s/newgtld-summary
NTLD Growth: Net Gain -11,461

http://www.registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx
.COM Growth: Net Gain +18,351

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kerala said:

- The domain AnimalCompanion.com sold for $181 at GoDaddy for a decrease of 92%.
It last sold for $2,288 on March 11th, 2008 at Afternic.
- The domain GolfCoursesGuide.com sold for $3,001 at GoDaddy for a decrease of 95%.
It last sold for $62,000 on January 16th, 2011 at Sedo.
- The domain GodCard.com sold for $170 at NameJet for a decrease of 95%.
It last sold for $3,700 on January 6th, 2013 at Afternic.

What do you think? I request advise from .com people regarding the sale of these .com names.

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these are all end-user sales that were sold on the reseller market again. that is what you would expect.

how does this show .com values decreasing?

Godaddy and Namejet are expired auction platforms where domains are liquidated for pennies on the dollar while afternic and sedo sell to end-users.

kerala said:

As per namebio report on 22nd May,

- The domain AnimalCompanion.com sold for $181 at GoDaddy for a decrease of 92%.
It last sold for $2,288 on March 11th, 2008 at Afternic.
- The domain GolfCoursesGuide.com sold for $3,001 at GoDaddy for a decrease of 95%.
It last sold for $62,000 on January 16th, 2011 at Sedo.
- The domain GodCard.com sold for $170 at NameJet for a decrease of 95%.
It last sold for $3,700 on January 6th, 2013 at Afternic.

What do you think? I request advise from .com people regarding the sale of these .com names.

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Not the out of context namebio report again.... You do realize this goes both ways no?

As per namebio report on 23th of May 2017:

PASTRIES.COM sold for $17,100 on 2017-05-23 at Flippa, sold for 12,500 USD on 2011-03-31 at Sedo.

PAYYOU.COM last sold for $9,150 on 2017-05-23 at DropCatch, sold for 2,000 on 2011-08-31 at Sedo.

etc...

kerala said:

Also I can't buy any good .com names for usd 1000 and also there is no guarantee to make money from the purchase. Nowadays, lot of people sell their .com names for big loss.

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There's never a guarantee to sell a domain with any domain extension. Having said that, at least with .com you're optimizing your odds.