discuss You Bought This Dropped Domain....

Silentptnr · Apr 28, 2017

So, I wanted to have some discussion about dropped domains. I acquired a dropped domain today, and wanted to get some feedback. Not at all regarding potential value, but rather, because I discovered that this particular domain was actually in recent/current use.

The domain was owned by a music group. I discovered that they have an active FB, Spotify, and so on. I was able to see what their site was up until it dropped.

Now, make no mistake, I am an entrepreneur. I make no apologies for my purchases. I buy foreclosed properties and I ocassionally buy dropped domain names.

But after spending some time looking at the social pages, even listening to their music (which is actually good), I do feel a little bad.

The domain is generic in nature and there are no trademarks.

I usually keep my whois info public so people can contact me, but with this one, I just felt the urge to use privacy in case they come looking for me or something in a bad kind of way.

Anyway....has anyone else come across a situation like this? Where you grabbed a dropped domain, then felt a little bad? Have you ever given a domain back? I remember another thread where a member started receiving threatening phone calls from a person that let their domain drop.

wwwweb · Apr 28, 2017

Silentptnr said:
So, I wanted to have some discussion about dropped domains. I acquired a dropped domain today, and wanted to get some feedback. Not at all regarding potential value, but rather, because I discovered that this particular domain was actually in recent/current use.

The domain was owned by a music group. I discovered that they have an active FB, Spotify, and so on. I was able to see what their site was up until it dropped.

Now, make no mistake, I am an entrepreneur. I make no apologies for my purchases. I buy foreclosed properties and I ocassionally buy dropped domain names.

But after spending some time looking at the social pages, even listening to their music (which is actually good), I do feel a little bad.

The domain is generic in nature and there are no trademarks.

I usually keep my whois info public so people can contact me, but with this one, I just felt the urge to use privacy in case they come looking for me or something in a bad kind of way.

Anyway....has anyone else come across a situation like this? Where you grabbed a dropped domain, then felt a little bad? Have you ever given a domain back? I remember another thread where a member started receiving threatening phone calls from a person that let their domain drop.

Trademark does not always have to be registered. Many celebs have won their names without trademark.

If they chose to make a case, and they have proof of their such domain being their trade name with use, and they can back that up with evidence good chance you will lose that case, and they will be awarded their name. As it will look like bad faith, if they see you own a few hundred random names, and you can't backup the purpose of your registration. Once again if this name is unique, or general has much to do with the actions that could follow if they choose to go such a route. Most bands never make it, so not sure if it is some has been name.

tomcarl · Apr 28, 2017

Yup. If it bothers you, offer to sell it back to them for $50 and you'll find out how much they care about the domain or not.

Silentptnr · Apr 28, 2017

I am in the US and this particular band is out of Argentina. I actually was just randomly reviewing names and liked it. I regged it before doing more than a cursory review. I don't speak much spanish, but this domain happens to be one of the only spanish phrases I know.

The domain is BienGracias[dot]com.

This means "Fine, thanks". Like when a spanish person says Como Estas? (how are you?) you reply "Bien Gracias!" (fine, thanks!)

Silentptnr · Apr 28, 2017

I really don't know why people let their names drop when they are active. Emails, social networks, etc...all basically tied to their domain. I just don't get it.

hawkeye · Apr 28, 2017

Yeah, I'd let them know you got it in a drop, they may not know it dropped, and that if they'd like it back, you'd just like your costs and maybe some tiks to their show or an album or two. This is one of those karma things, and you'll look like a Good Samaritan in their eyes, and not a creepy domain cybersquatter. (...not that you're creepy..

) j/k.

wwwweb · Apr 28, 2017

Silentptnr said:
I am in the US and this particular band is out of Argentina. I actually was just randomly reviewing names and liked it. I regged it before doing more than a cursory review. I don't speak much spanish, but this domain happens to be one of the only spanish phrases I know.

The domain is BienGracias[dot]com.

This means "Fine, thanks". Like when a spanish person says Como Estas? (how are you?) you reply "Bien Gracias!" (fine, thanks!)

That name is very general, you should be ok with that as it is so broad.

They have many other choices with .co, their country code, many gtld's they should be fine.

Deals out of south america are hard to close, as they have been hit hard from an economic perspective over there.

hawkeye · Apr 28, 2017

Silentptnr said:
I really don't know why people let their names drop when they are active. Emails, social networks, etc...all basically tied to their domain. I just don't get it.

They could be on tour and not have time or a clue it expired.

Silentptnr · Apr 28, 2017

I might send them a facebook or something and see if they want it back. Only because they played at some Hard Rock not too long ago and had an event just like 6 months ago.

tomcarl · Apr 28, 2017

That's a good name, I'd hold on to it and keep it parked, if ever they do come around, it would be decent of you to work with them and quote a fair price but that domain has value elsewhere and you didn't do anything wrong, because if it wasn't you it would've been someone else who would've reg'd it.

But I know how ya feel. World needs more people like us.

lol

MapleDots · Apr 28, 2017

Silentptnr said:
Anyway....has anyone else come across a situation like this? Where you grabbed a dropped domain, then felt a little bad? Have you ever given a domain back? I remember another thread where a member started receiving threatening phone calls from a person that let their domain drop.

I recently bought a direct business hit name on GoDaddy. It had 582 in the traffic column and I googled the name and saw the business was quite active on facebook and social media. When I went wayback I saw their website was seldom ever updated so I knew they probably dropped it by accident.

After I acquired the name I sent them an message asking them why their website was down. I sent it through my anonymous gmail account and they never responded. They did however respond to my email address from whois and long story short I sold it back to them at $750. After they called me some choice words I told them to behave because another domainer could have asked for 5k. I told them I was feeling generous and they should be grateful.

Kamaz · Apr 28, 2017

I think "Bien" it's a French name, which means "Good" Am I right?

Silentptnr · Apr 28, 2017

MapleDots said:
I recently bought a direct business hit name on GoDaddy. It had 582 in the traffic column and I googled the name and saw the business was quite active on facebook and social media. When I went wayback I saw their website was seldom ever updated so I knew they probably dropped it by accident.

After I acquired the name I sent them an message asking them why their website was down. I sent it through my anonymous gmail account and they never responded. They did however respond to my email address from whois and long story short I sold it back to them at $750. After they called me some choice words I told them to behave because another domainer could have asked for 5k. I told them I was feeling generous and they should be grateful.

This one is available to see via way back as well. Also their social pages.

Kamaz · Apr 28, 2017

MapleDots said:
I recently bought a direct business hit name on GoDaddy. It had 582 in the traffic column and I googled the name and saw the business was quite active on facebook and social media. When I went wayback I saw their website was seldom ever updated so I knew they probably dropped it by accident.

After I acquired the name I sent them an message asking them why their website was down. I sent it through my anonymous gmail account and they never responded. They did however respond to my email address from whois and long story short I sold it back to them at $750. After they called me some choice words I told them to behave because another domainer could have asked for 5k. I told them I was feeling generous and they should be grateful.

Your ROCK Brothaaa, LOL
I like the IDEA.

But I still have that question, why he/she let it expires? what makes you so confident that he/she went back to take it from YOU?

Aspiring Billionaire · Apr 29, 2017

I have no experience in feeling "a little bad" after risking my money in a domain name purchase, but it is your asset to do with as you please. Either way, you'll be doing the right thing if you go with what your gut tells you.

Silentptnr · Apr 29, 2017

Aspiring Billionaire said:
I have no experience in feeling "a little bad" after risking my money in a domain name purchase, but it is your asset to do with as you please. Either way, you'll be doing the right thing if you go with what your gut tells you.

I could have cancelled the registration but I didn't and don't plan to

.

MapleDots · Apr 29, 2017

Kamaz said:
But I still have that question, why he/she let it expires? what makes you so confident that he/she went back to take it from YOU?

I used to run a fairly big business and I can tell you how it happens...

Business1.com hires manager who registers domain name business1.com and then uses the address [email protected] in whois and at the registrar. It gets renewed year after year until joe quits and goes to the next job. Now Henry takes over and his email is [email protected] and he disables email for [email protected]. Renewal notices now enter the big black hole in the sky and business1 has no idea they are about to lose their domain.

It can happen in many similar circumstances but what made me curious was the traffic and that it was a direct hit business name with the business still up and running. I figured it was worth a $12 gamble to buy, and my hunch paid off.

adsorbable · Apr 29, 2017

I think in the end it all comes down to which choice makes you sleep better at night. Business is business and if you're legally ok to own the domain and you paid for it then nobody can push you to give it up. Is the business choice always the best one? That depends on you, but if the domain was dropped by accident and its an honest mistake (they're not just trying to make a buck) then I wouldn't press them for money. I guess ive just been in enough situation where I wish somebody would cut me a break

MapleDots · Apr 29, 2017

adsorbable said:
I think in the end it all comes down to which choice makes you sleep better at night. Business is business and if you're legally ok to own the domain and you paid for it then nobody can push you to give it up. Is the business choice always the best one? That depends on you, but if the domain was dropped by accident and its an honest mistake (they're not just trying to make a buck) then I wouldn't press them for money. I guess ive just been in enough situation where I wish somebody would cut me a break

And the break was $750 for a lesson in domain management.

Silentptnr · Apr 29, 2017

I certainly couldn't imagine a real estate investor buying a foreclosure and giving the property back to the previous owner because they were out of the country for 6 months, their billpay glitched, and they lost the house by accident.

Bottom line, someone else would have probably regged it.

DzAH · Apr 29, 2017

I think it will be wise to consider your own conscience and not ignore it.

CJ6 · Apr 29, 2017

There was another rock band dropped today. I was going to pick it up and give it to them. I guess that the previous holder may have held several band names. Unfortunately, someone got it before me.

nomen · Apr 29, 2017

I don't know, I probably wouldn't contact them about the domain but if they came to me and asked nicely, I'd probably just give it back to them. In the end, the domain in question is not that valuable, i.e. you could easily replace it in your portfolio with similar quality domain IMO.

UmerK · Apr 29, 2017

Just give them option of first refusal if you feel bad about it, which you obviously shouldn't. If it meant something or a lot they wouldn't have let it drop. I would even consider letting them know they dropped the domain and you'd be willing to give it back to them on a fair trade basis.

Spiraldom · Apr 29, 2017

They probably just fell apart. Their last post on Facebook is from November of 2015.

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