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In Canada the .ca regional domains are on fire, I don't understand why I never see a .us domain in actual use.

With the .coms almost out of reach why are the .us domains not catching on?
There are a lot of us companies like plumbers, roofers etc. yet so few of them use .us domains.

I would love to see what the penetration for .us is as compared to other countries.
I have been thinking about dabbling in some .us domains and would love some feedback.
 
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.us sadly has no caught on because of .com. mainly because holders of .com's have convinced any potential domain buyer that dotcom is king. which it is. I can imagine "the little guy" coming into the domain market just to get a domain for his business. First thing he'll do is ask "thee experts" and 90% of which are holders of .com's.

think about it. what will THEY all say? Fall in line right?

.ca is on fire because America's next door neighbor has always wanted to identify itself away from it's next door neighbor. Thinking probably they are better than USA..

.com has always been the "go to" extension. .com was a USA creation so why anyone would even go with .com if they are from the USA? is beyond me.

you do have domains like Deli.cio.us that became very popular. but that's more of a hack.
 
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.us sadly has no caught on because of .com. mainly because holders of .com's have convinced any potential domain buyer that dotcom is king. which it is. I can imagine "the little guy" coming into the domain market just to get a domain for his business. First thing he'll do is ask "thee experts" and 90% of which are holders of .com's.

think about it. what will THEY all say? Fall in line right?

.ca is on fire because America's next door neighbor has always wanted to identify itself away from it's next door neighbor. Thinking probably they are better than USA..

.com has always been the "go to" extension. .com was a USA creation so why anyone would even go with .com if they are from the USA? is beyond me.

you do have domains like Deli.cio.us that became very popular. but that's more of a hack.


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".com has always been the "go to" extension for Americans. .com was a USA creation so why anyone would even go with .us if they are from the USA? is beyond me"
 
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The same question has been asked for years. Some say us is .Com country, some say because of lack of privacy. Some say lack of awareness due to registry, etc...But to ask this question now shows you may need to brush up your knowledge on the latest happenings just within the last few months, neustar being aquired, privacy policy under review, future premium offerings, and last but not least many .Com's changed hands and are no longer with us companies. In the world we live in there is almost always competition and that's why the best alternatives will coveted. Check out the other .Us threads in the np cctlds section for some info and direction to more info so you can know what's going on NOW.

IMO .Us will rise and rise fast in 2017/2018.
 
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The same question has been asked for years. Some say us is .Com country, some say because of lack of privacy. Some say lack of awareness due to registry, etc...But to ask this question now shows you may need to brush up your knowledge on the latest happenings just within the last few months, neustar being aquired, privacy policy under review, future premium offerings, and last but not least many .Com's changed hands and are no longer with us companies. In the world we live in there is almost always competition and that's why the best alternatives will coveted. Check out the other .Us threads in the np cctlds section for some info and direction to more info so you can know what's going on NOW.

IMO .Us will rise and rise fast in 2017/2018.
from your mouth to god's ear's buddy ,lol.......
 
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IMO .Us will rise and rise fast in 2017/2018

You are preaching to the converted, I love regional domains, I have mostly .ca domains and have been thinking about branching into .us

The reason I asked the question is other than ImageShack.us I have never come across a .us in use and now even ImageShack is using the .com now (I think they also still have the .us)

I am not saying there are not millions in use, its just I never see one and I spend half my time on US sites.

I still figure .us is a bargain and it still has some choice domains left for picking. I checked and there are some sweet combinations I could hand register. It's an obvious next step for me and I would rather invest in a .us domain than a gtld.whateverthehelliwanttocharge domain anyday.
 
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US exceptionalism. The general rule is that each country (or ISO-recognized autonomous territory) gets its own TLD. But the US is an exception because in addition to .us it also has:
  • .gov
  • .mil
  • .edu which is mostly American.
.us = USA but USA != .us

Of course there are other factors too. .us was released late to the public (2002), .com was already deeply entrenched. Zero promotion also doesn't help.
It's unlikely that a ccTLD (any ccTLD) is going to thrive when it's not being embraced by national authorities. The official bodies lead the way and the rest of the country follows. Not happening in the US.
 
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To a certain degree, it's the same case for a lot of ccTLDs and it's not just US exceptionalism. People want to make global brands and global sites. Not everyone wants a national one.
 
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The .us vs .com debate is a good example of why it's better to go with what you see then with what you think when it comes to domains. Demand for .us could always increase in the future but there is no evidence of it yet and really no current reason to believe it will. Of course the cost of entry/speculation with domains is very low, but it adds up quick with volume.
 
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It will make a great extension for expanding overseas markets where brands are established in their native extension and looking to partner into us marketplace.
 
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You are preaching to the converted, I love regional domains, I have mostly .ca domains and have been thinking about branching into .us

The reason I asked the question is other than ImageShack.us I have never come across a .us in use and now even ImageShack is using the .com now (I think they also still have the .us)

I am not saying there are not millions in use, its just I never see one and I spend half my time on US sites.

I still figure .us is a bargain and it still has some choice domains left for picking. I checked and there are some sweet combinations I could hand register. It's an obvious next step for me and I would rather invest in a .us domain than a gtld.whateverthehelliwanttocharge domain anyday.
I myself mostly see them used by small businesses, on vehicles, signs, billboards, and recently Facebook ads. The majority of them are 2 keyword domains. I don't think I've seen a 1 word generic in the wild, probably because most of them are with us.
 
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I myself mostly see them used by small businesses, on vehicles, signs, billboards, and recently Facebook ads. The majority of them are 2 keyword domains. I don't think I've seen a 1 word generic in the wild, probably because most of them are with us.

If you do see one approach with care and take a screen grab rather than try trap it to admire the short coat domain name.
 
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I think .COM is so embedded in the US that .us is not as useful as say another cctld. Also, the US is arguably the market most able to pay premium for .COM. For example, .cn and .in are available at low-mid prices in comparison to .COM and due to the low saturation are a viable option for natives of both China and India.

However the US, also due to the psychological grip .COM has on the population, has arguably less "need" for a cctld. However I suspect this will change with time- perhaps not quickly as for CHina and India. I think .cn and .in have a brighter future. I am all in .in :)

ADA
 
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I think .COM is so embedded in the US that .us is not as useful as say another cctld. Also, the US is arguably the market most able to pay premium for .COM. For example, .cn and .in are available at low-mid prices in comparison to .COM and due to the low saturation are a viable option for natives of both China and India.

However the US, also due to the psychological grip .COM has on the population, has arguably less "need" for a cctld. However I suspect this will change with time- perhaps not quickly as for CHina and India. I think .cn and .in have a brighter future. I am all in .in :)

ADA
In Canada it's automatic.... if the .com is gone you grab the .ca.

In fact, even when the .com is available a lot of businesses forward the .com to the .ca

I currently have 2 businesses (including my domaining business) where I own the .com but use the .ca

I'm with you there, I think .us will become more prominent as time goes on and a smart investor will look at that extension for growth.
 
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In Canada it's automatic.... if the .com is gone you grab the .ca.

In fact, even when the .com is available a lot of businesses forward the .com to the .ca
Maybe "automatic" for you BUT
I would only buy the (dot)ca version only if I was targeting Canadian visitors!


Also never ever would I get a "trade mark" version unless the trademark mine..

Believe (dot)us might be a good option to consider for "GEO" domains..
 
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The discussion was the same here 10 years ago. The truth is that .us isn't really catching on.
I don't think it's going to become a 'normal' ccTLD any time soon.
 
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The discussion was the same here 10 years ago. The truth is that .us isn't really catching on.
I don't think it's going to become a 'normal' ccTLD any time soon.

Amazon.com. Amazon.ca
Google.com Amazon.ca
eBay.com. eBay.ca
Etc etc etc

Pretty sure any (dot)us that I know off (imageshack delicious etc) are established domains that received a Google advantage when "hack" domains were a novelty and promoted properly..
 
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See these two threads, especially the first and newest one:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/post-developed-us.1011553/

https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-official-us-spotter-developed-full-sites.680422/

And see this and a few posts after it:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/us...es-report-thread.167208/page-147#post-5823747

And Kate has made such important points here which coincide with what I and to some degree others have written before:

Zero promotion also doesn't help.

It's unlikely that a ccTLD (any ccTLD) is going to thrive when it's not being embraced by national authorities. The official bodies lead the way and the rest of the country follows. Not happening in the US.

As I have also suggested before, what are the greatest examples of this, with the greatest psychological impact upon the public? No doubt there are many, but I would suggest, among others, that when TV commercials for the US military itself feature ".com" only and prominently, it sends a huge message, and also helps keep the American public from being aware .US even exists. And that is what happens when such commercials appear with their captivating content, wrapped in a .com bow at their conclusion.

And yet what bigger, clearer, more appropriate, and more patriotic public splash and public statement could be made than if the US military in its marketing and advertising included "Army.US" and "Navy.US" and "AirForce.US" and "Marines.US" in their print and most especially their television advertising?

I could certainly say much more about what has happened in our country regarding awareness and knowledge of both domain names in general, what they are, how they work, and .US in particular, including what I have witnessed firsthand.

.US is still as used to be said a "sleeping giant" which is not only still asleep but also all but comatose.

The lack of the whois privacy option is definitely also an important factor, but second to these others. In fact, the lack of the whois privacy option may even be directly related to some of these other issues, i.e. that some may have simply wanted this to be the status quo all this time for whatever reasons.

The bottom line is that the American public still after all these years scarcely knows .us even exists despite that it is our very country code. If they did things might be very dramatically different, however. And perhaps that's the problem - perhaps too many people with too much influence and too many vested interests and so forth simply do not want and have not wanted that. No other TLD can even come close to matching the patriotic elements of .US - it's in a class by itself in that regard. And yet you can still even find a US federal government employee almost ready to retire after decades of working for the US who does not even know that .US exists (see where I have written about that very thing before no less). It would have taken very little really to start and fan the flame of .US otherwise, but that very little has never been done, and the flame has clearly simply been kept stifled to the barest minimum beyond extinguished under the .com rocks, like a pilot light on a stove turned down so low that it barely even shows at all.
 
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from starting of internet .com means internet and internet means .com so almost people set in mind .com is known as internet.
 
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Its all about usage in everyday business, in the last 20 yrs , don't remember visiting a single .us website here in the US. Lack of everyday usage, means TLD brand is not growing.


Thats why .ca, .co.uk, .de, .in , .cn are all different when compared to .us

If Google, started using Google.us for US only search, now that would have been great. But its now 20 yrs late.
 
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Its all about usage in everyday business, in the last 20 yrs , don't remember visiting a single .us website here in the US. Lack of everyday usage, means TLD brand is not growing.


Thats why .ca, .co.uk, .de, .in , .cn are all different when compared to .us

If Google, started using Google.us for US only search, now that would have been great. But its now 20 yrs late.
You are putting the cart before the horse. We already know that is the case. The question is why? And the answer is because little to nothing has been done to inform the US public that .us even exists and to encourage them to both know and desire it. And the continued use of .com to the exclusion .us in ways such as I described above pours gasoline on the fire of this unawareness.
 
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The "why" is pretty simple..there wasnt a need. .com was more than enough for the US market
 
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The "why" is pretty simple..there wasnt a need. .com was more than enough for the US market
You appear to be missing some important fundamental points about people, human psychology and marketing.

There have always been "enough" .net's, .org's, .info's, and .biz's to meet anyone's "need" as well. In fact, there have always been an infinite and infinitely expandable availability of such options and there still is to this moment.

Get it?

If the American public were simply made to know that .US even exists at all, and if a few real and genuine actions were taken to stimulate awareness and desire, then it doesn't matter how many other billions upon billions of keyword variations in .com and other TLDs would have been available to meet anyone's "needs" all this time.

Go back to what Kate first brought up here and what I echoed with the example of US military marketing. If the great and captivating TV commercials alone that appear from time to time all these years had ended in ".us" instead of ".com," then you can be confident of the likelihood of a very different country and a very different World Wide Web and a very different conversation right now regarding this issue. If famous political and government figures had done the same, then all the more so

One should not even have to say any of this and it should not even be a matter of debate, but should be considered absurdly obvious. Just ask Kate from before I even got here. You appear to simply be completely missing certain realities of how the world works and your comment about it is very short sighted.
 
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Instead of spending your time and energy studying why something isn't selling, spend it on what is.
 
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In Canada the .ca regional domains are on fire, I don't understand why I never see a .us domain in actual use.

With the .coms almost out of reach why are the .us domains not catching on?
There are a lot of us companies like plumbers, roofers etc. yet so few of them use .us domains.

I would love to see what the penetration for .us is as compared to other countries.
I have been thinking about dabbling in some .us domains and would love some feedback.
.ca domains on fire?

3L.ca's can be acquired for reg fee, there is very little demand. Many Canadian end users do business in both countries, and want a .com as first choice.

.us had a 10 cent promo a few months back, it is the same with all lessor extensions. Nobody wants second best.

You can't force people to accept it, been about 15 years now, it's not going to happen, as stated above why not work with what people want, instead of trying to force what people don't want upon them.

By the looks of it .us is a great 2 letter extension, it represents what it means perfectly, but it has poor sell thru. Single words can be purchased for $100-$500.
 
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