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advice Daily Dose: Outbound Negotiation Tactics. Part 1.

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Negotiation. This is the part that makes or breaks a deal. This is the part that makes you money! Major companies hire expert negotiators to step in during mergers and acquisitions, during a sale of the company, and even to train their sales staff. Being able to properly negotiate is the most important attribute you can have as a salesman! Do NOT take that lightly! Domain name investing is not just about the domain name, it's about sales techniques, negotiation tactics, customer service, and a heap of other extremely important aptitudes to develop!

An expert negotiator will beat you to a pulp while making you feel like you're the one in control. They will make you feel like YOU won the negotiation. That being said, the first thing you need to do is take your ego and throw it out the door. It is not welcome at the negotiation table!

*I use these strategies 95% of the time with end-users only. I throw out a few of these lines to other domain investors, but there really is no point as we both know what each other is up to anyway and most of us don't have the patience for it! Generally, an investor will tell you his bottom line regardless, so leave these insanely annoying tactics for end-user negotiations!*

My # 1 rule of negotiating
Know what you want! I cannot stress this enough!
  • Where do you want to end up?
  • What is the purpose of you selling this product or service?
  • Money? How much money?
  • Other things? Like what?
  • What will make you happiest at the end?
Do you have a list of the things you'd like to walk away with from this negotiation?
If not, make one. A thorough list of all the things you MUST have at the end.

Now that you have the list of MUST have's, add a bunch of fluffy wants to it.
Most of these fluffy's you will not walk away with. In fact, that's the point. Bare with me; you'll see why soon.


The Outbound Negotiation

More often than not, you will be doing outbound, so I will cover what happens in an outbound negotiation from my personal experience.

You've sent the outbound email out, they've opened it a bunch of times, and a few days later they email you back with the line "How Much?" If you tell them without ever trying to pull a number out from their side first, you've risked leaving money on the table.

*Before moving forward, I must say this one thing: NEVER BE AFRAID OF LOSING THE DEAL. If you are investing in the right type of domain names, you should never fear that!*

These days, my reply to the "How Much?" question is almost always a variation of "To be fair to you, I will leave the table clean for your offer to be placed on. I am certain you've done your due diligence, and I am happy to hear your offer. Does that sound good?"

Generally, their reply will be one of the following:
  1. "Sure, I am willing to offer [this ridiculously low price]"
  2. "You contacted us... what is the price?"
  3. They will use some line to beat down the value to them. In this case, you will use a method called Feel, Felt, Found. We'll get into that in a bit.
Moving forward you need to remember what you wrote down before the negotiation. You wrote down your list of needs and fluffy wants, right? What was on your needs? Let's say you wanted to net $10,000 from this as your bottom line, and your fluffy wants were to keep a [email protected] email address for yourself and attain free advertising space on their homepage. All the while, knowing that you were unlikely to get anything except your bottom line price.

Moving on, to reply to "Sure, I am willing to offer [this ridiculously low price]" you use a technique called the "Flinch." This is a technique talked about by Roger Dawson (an incredible negotiator) extensively. This is where you react with shock and surprise at the other sides offer.

*A little rule to live by. NEVER EVER use confrontational negotiation. You are NOT to disturb the inner fighter in anyone. Once that person feels confrontation, their main objective will turn into proving you wrong. So keep it very, very light and open!*

Now, it's easier in person, but with a few exclamation points and questions marks you can make your flinch quite clear in the response email. There are a few different ways to respond to a low offer:
  1. "Oh! I'm sorry, but we are not prepared to let this domain name go for that price! If you'd like, we can offer the option to rent the domain name for a year to see how it works out for you. At the end of the year, you can decide whether you'd like to acquire the domain name. Does that sound good?"
  2. "Wow! I'm sorry, but we are not prepared to give this domain name away. You will have to do better."
  3. "While I appreciate your offer, there is no way we could let this domain name go for that price. If you'd like, I can point you in the direction of more affordable options. Does that sound better?"
Now, you should create your own set of responses. At least 10 of them and test them out to see which ones garner the best results for your style! Keep in mind, you want to either ask them a question at the end of the email or leave it open enough for them to respond. Sometimes, however, you'll just know that there will be no deal made and move on... but that is rare.

Now to respond to "You contacted us.. what is the price?" is a tricky one. You NEVER want to tell them the exact price you had decided on earlier. Always ask for more. In fact, the less you know about the buyer, the more you should be asking for. Why? Because you just might get it. Have you ever made an offer on GoDaddy for $5,000 only to have the seller respond with a counter of $350,000? You think they are just crazy? Well, some of them are, but most of them know this simple rule. Always ask for more than you think you'll get. It gives you the ability to allow the other side to feel like they have something to win (by talking you down). So, to respond to "You contacted us.. what is the price?" you can:
  1. Ask this first "Let me first ask, If we can agree to a price, would there be anything holding us back from wrapping the deal up this week?"
    • Whatever their response is, as long as it's a confirmation that they will move forward at an agreed upon price, you've already begun to close the deal while leaving the price negotiation door open. Once they reply, you can move forward with your first proposal: "Great! I've spoken with my partners. Based on comparable sales, our team has valued this domain name at $45,000. We would also like to keep a [email protected] email along with the inclusion of advertising space on the homepage. Does that sound good?"
  2. Or, get straight to it: "I've spoken with my partners. Based on comparable sales, our team has valued this domain name at $45,000. We would also like to keep a [email protected] email along with the inclusion of advertising space on the homepage. Does that sound good?"
The first option is the longer play. It gets them to offer up a commitment, whether they know it or not. It also tells you whether or not they are the final decision maker. If they respond with a variation of "Yes, if we can agree upon a price, we can move forward" then you know the rest is up to your negotiation skills.

Alright, now if they use some line to beat down the value to them, you immediately use the Feel, Felt, Found tactic. More often than not, when you reach out, the buyer will pretend to be reluctant to purchase. They will do everything they can to beat down the value before making an offer. So, in response to their first attempt you use a tactic called "Feel, Felt, Found."

Here is an example:

Someone tried to tell me that the domain name was only valuable to their company and they were the only ones who would want it, so I should lower my pricing expectations.

In response, I wrote:

I understand that you may feel it is only valuable to your company. Many other companies have felt the exact same way about other domain names. However, based on the comparable sales, I have found that these domain names have value beyond the measure made by a single entity. They are a liquid asset and an investment. Domain names that cost thousands in the 1990’s sell for millions today. For you to acquire this domain name, you are making an investment along with acquiring a very important asset. Would you like me to direct you toward a comparable sales chart? I can also provide a list of companies that own generic, premium domain names. Would that help in your valuation of this domain name?

This can open up a can of worms, and if the price has not been spoken about yet, it surely will be spoken about now. With either the response "I am willing to offer [this ridiculously low price]" or "Well, what's the price?" then you can refer back to the responses above for these scenarios.

Now that you have opened up the pricing negotiations, it's time to really get down to it. The middle of the negotiation is the hump. You are now at the top of the hill and you have to set into motion a very gentle roll down to the closing side.

Now that you have made your proposal, you will likely get flinched by the other side with some variation of "$45,000?! That's a lot of money for a domain name! You want an email address and free advertising too? I'm not sure we can move forward with this offer!" In which case, you can simply give them power by saying, "No problem. Since we are here and to be fair to both sides, what would the deal have looked like in order for you to move forward?"

If they truly want the domain name, this is where they will make their initial offer. Let's say for instance they offer $3,500 with no email and no advertising. Now flinch, vise ("You will have to do better"), make your "counter offer," and "check with your partners" to see if you can make a deal happen.

This is how it would look:

"Yikes, I'm not certain we could move forward at that price! We are pretty far apart here; however, my partners are fairly reasonable. Can you provide a better offer for me to take to them?"

That right there will generally get you a little more out of their side. Otherwise, they'll tell you that $3,500 is the best they can do. If they tell you that is their best, at least run through a financing option or a more affordable option before parting ways. However, if they open with a $3,500 counter, you are usually well on your way to your magic $10,000 profit number.

You will likely play this back and forth for a while until you get closer to your $10,000 number. You will have to keep telling them to do better in different ways! Once you feel or see that they are maxed out, that's when you step in with, "Tell you what, I will try to create a shortcut for us here. Do I have your permission to run a $12,500 offer by my partners? Just to see what they will say?" Base the number you run by your partners on the highest offer they've given you so far. If they've come up to $7,500, run $12,500 by your partner. They will either tell you yes or "no, you do not have permission." If no, you could reply:
  1. "What if I could convince them to forget the advertising and come down to $10k? Does that work for you?"
  2. "What number do I have your permission to run by them? $11,000? $10,000?"
By now, you see that all you are doing is inching your way up in price towards or past your $10k. If they tell you to go ahead and run it by your partners then all that is left is for you to close the deal with a simple closing line: "My partners have agreed! Congratulations! I will begin the Escrow with your current email. Does that sound good? By the way, you are the toughest negotiator I've ever spoken with!" Make sure you stroke their ego a bit during the close and make them feel like they won. They love it, and that way, they walk away much happier and more proud!

This is part one of the negotiation dose. Remember, this is a very, very basic introduction to outbound negotiation. There are thousands of strategies, tactics, and chess-like moves to learn. Every negotiation will differ, but the fundamental strategies will remain the same. Usually the above information will likely get you through a simple domain name negotiation.

You do, however, want to be extremely knowledgeable in all things sales and negotiations in order to become truly successful. A simple blog post from me will not make you a master negotiator. You must read every single book you can get your hands on in order to reach your peak. There is one must read book. It will change your life as it's done for me. "Secrets of Power Negotiating" - By Roger Dawson. It is the best negotiation book I have ever read and it will make my blog post seem like a grain of sand on an endless beach. If you do not read this book, you will find yourself getting beat up left and right at the negotiation table. You must ALWAYS be the better negotiator at the table. For that reason, read it now!

Update on May 25, 2016: Negotiation Tactics Part 2 | Inbound - A Few Different Approaches
 
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Slowly reading through this great information and I might have a few other questions down the road. Thank you in advance, Ali . I found you through DomainSherpa interview via youtube.
 
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@Ali Zandi,

This might just be my favorite blog post, on any site, across all industries, ever! Your generosity is refreshing. :D
 
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That needs to be read with a cup of coffee...
Maybe after Ramadan :D
 
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@Ali Zandi you wrote that you could also hire your name for a period to let them try it.
Is this ever happened??
how could you do that in a safe way?
i think a lot of people would be really happy to give a test before to do a purchase.
 
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Great article Ali.
just a question... what would be your tactic if you are dealing with over 100 billion $ company?
Thanks
 
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Thanks for taking the time to write this. Really interesting and useful.

Although, knowing my luck, the person I'm selling to will have studied your post meticulously :D
 
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Thanks a lot for the article. I started reading the book, but man, what did I butcher things. Everything you could do wrong, I did :D
 
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Hey Ali,

Thanks for the advice. The book of Dawson was really a great read, really good combination between pleasant reading and information.

I just flinched a mother@()%@() after a ridiculous lowball offer. Let's see if it works.
 
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Hi
Would you say it is ethical to pretend to have "partners" that you are discussing with? :D I guess it's not a big deal.. And some people do have real partners.
Nice post, thanks.
 
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Can you please tell me how to respond to the enduser when he agrees the for the price... how to send ur final email of payment instruction ...as i feel i am missing out here

Yea, I would just create an Escrow.com buy it now link, "cloak it" with an anchor text. So it could look something like this (I would word it however you like).

"Great, I have created the Escrow.com agreement, you can review & finalize here."
 
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Just found my way to this. Very very good Ali - thank you.
 
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Yea, I would just create an Escrow.com buy it now link, "cloak it" with an anchor text. So it could look something like this (I would word it however you like).

"Great, I have created the Escrow.com agreement, you can review & finalize here."
@Zandibot Ali, in this Escrow agreement, who pays their fee? Do you load it on the buyer by default?
 
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@Zandibot Ali, in this Escrow agreement, who pays their fee? Do you load it on the buyer by default?

That depends. As long as you close them on Price + Escrow fees beforehand, then you should be fine.

However, if you haven't, avoid yourself the headache, most buyers that see "Seller pays fees" usually won't question it and will continue forward. Imo
 
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Here's an idea: calculate the base fees and add them to the quote :D
 
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"Oh! I'm sorry, but we are not prepared to let this domain name go for that price! If you'd like, we can offer the option to rent the domain name for a year to see how it works out for you. At the end of the year, you can decide whether you'd like to acquire the domain name. Does that sound good?"
I love this quote sir, I want to try make a reply with this "amazing template". :xf.wink:
 
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Ali, thanks for the amazing information provided here! A couple questions:

You wrote this up a little over a year ago so my question is are you still using this line most of the time when someone asks "How much?" or have you since changed it: "To be fair to you, I will leave the table clean for your offer to be placed on. I am certain you've done your due diligence, and I am happy to hear your offer. Does that sound good?"

What should the response be if you say that line to them and you see they have opened the email at least once but a few days go by and they don't email back with an offer? What would your recommended next email be?

Thanks!
 
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----- Here is the entire exchange. We are stuck at this point, no reply from him for the past 48 hours - any suggestions on how to proceed is appreciated.


Mail from the Negotiator

Hi Manoj - I have been told that you are selling this domain. What is your price? If it’s reasonable I can probably structure a deal. However, if you think it’s worth tens of thousands of dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars I can guarantee you that no one will be interested. Let me know ASAP and thanks!

Thanks,
*****

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My reply

Hi ****,

There are 2 biggies out there

# 1 is **** - with a copyright for '*****' made in **** (2 years after i registered the domain name) and have invested billions in products in the name. (search for : ****)

# 2 is a business named '*****' which is growing everyday

I do feel any of these two will need them anytime in the future and it will be bigger worth then. I am an investor by nature. I can wait with a lot of patience.

I might be wrong and they might never need it at all.

But still selling it today for peanuts is not worth it.

Thank you very much for your enquiry.


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Reply from Negotiator

Hi Manoj -

I know ***** (first company) very well, they won’t buy unless it’s reasonable. I’m the one that handled all of the domain transactions you mention below. They will not overpay for this - it’s not something they value highly - and if you want to sell to them this is your best chance.

I can’t speak to the other option (#2) other than to say that they probably won’t overpay either.

Best of luck!

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My reply

Hi *****,

Let me quote just one example.

Just go thro the blog - www.****.com - A blog with less than 100 articles recently sold for us$ 50000 on www.flippa.com - Sales url : - There are more bigger sales too. Articles & SEO for blogs are very cheap nowadays thro www.fiverr.com

A good domain name like ******* with lot of articles focussing the youth will get me lot of adsense money + a very big resale value in very short time.

I have been in e-commerce in India for almost 16 years now. You can check my site : ****** - I follow domain & web site sales closely and am very well aware about what happens.

So, it cannot be termed as overpaying. It is worth paying.

My offer is US $ xxxxxx (United States Dollars x Lakh Only) Nett. Escrow to be taken care by you.

Thank you very much!

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His reply

Thanks, Manoj. I wish you best of luck then - seems like the only buyer you will have is someone that wants to pay for your traffic.
**** likely won’t be interested in the current traffic, unfortunately, and doesn't value the domain the same way.



Best,
*****

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My reply

Hi *****,

It is not at all about traffic. It is all about the value of the name that bring to the buyer that matters .

I will again show you a recent example.

A startup bought the domain name without any traffic xxxxx for US$ xxxxxx
ref : xxxxx

If a name like that xxxx is so important for a startup,
then this name xxxxx is more highly important for a World renowned brand like xxxxxx

You know all this very much better than me.

My doors are always open for you!


----- We are stuck at this point, no reply from him for the past 48 hours - any suggestions on how to proceed is appreciated.
 
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enjoy every inch of this article @ Ali.. thanks alot
 
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This article is an eye opener. Thanks for the info Ali the Great Zandi
 
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Wow! Just stumbled on this. This is a great thread which is really full of intelligent tips. Thanks @Ali
 
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Great insight! Thanks, bruh!
 
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