Is there a "NEGATIVE CULTURE" @ NamePros?

I will be honest here.

There is a degree of negativity that does surface from time to time with members.

From what I have seen over the years, the negativity seems to stem from the obsessive compulsive addiction that plagues alot of the domain industry.

Mix the addiction of domaining with alot of $$$$ spent (that they shouldn't have) and you have a recipe for weird whacked out negative behavior.

When the euphoric state of hand regging your million dollar domain wears off and reality sets in, it can be a real mind f_uck for some people.

I see some serious delusional $hit going on recently and it seems to have started becoming a pattern.

Maybe an in-house namepros psychologist might be needed?

Just saying....

.NJ said:

I will be honest here.

There is a degree of negativity that does surface from time to time with members.

From what I have seen over the years, the negativity seems to stem from the obsessive compulsive addiction that plagues alot of the domain industry.

Mix the addiction of domaining with alot of $$$$ spent (that they shouldn't have) and you have a recipe for weird whacked out negative behavior.

When the euphoric state of hand regging your million dollar domain wears off and reality sets in, it can be a real mind f_uck for some people.

I see some serious delusional $hit going on recently and it seems to have started becoming a pattern.

Maybe an in-house namepros psychologist might be needed?

Just saying....

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.NJ said:

Maybe an in-house namepros psychologist might be needed?

Just saying....

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Maybe forumtherapy should be considered?

Think a healthy online discussion is great! There are so few places you can get negative feedback

(think facebook removing the dislike option or yelp owners burying negative feedback with in store promotion - free drink if you write a positive comment on yelp)

Forums like namepros are one of the only places you can get honest/negative/real feedback.

Thought leaders may post content to drive awareness to a topic or idea or product and you need to be willing to take the good with the bad.
I come here to get some domain news, see what domainers are talking about and get honest feedback on our domain product.

We have made many changes over the last 6 months directly from the feedback (negative and positive) in this forum.

Without the negative feedback and comments we would have built our domain tool in a bubble and that is exactly what we did not want. We actually have a ticket called "Features from Namepro Members" that addresses wishes and complaints of current or non existing domain tools.

As long as your not just ranting and provide proof with screenshots and data of your issue I feel like negative feedback is more valuable than positive feedback.

I don't know what the thread is talking about I never seen any negativity here! honestly NamePros is my favorite forum

Internet trolls.. are everywhere and that's part of the internet culture whether we like it or not...

But i think it's been managed pretty well here..

.NJ said:

I see some serious delusional $hit going on recently

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Some of us look for (help) direction and coordination and some of us look for (knowledge) conversation and endless debate. The process of changing mind (delusion) through conversation is the real art. More conversation and less debate will stop negations going on and lift up marketing.

Kind regards

Internet.Domains said:

There was a recent blog post by Domain Shane, a fellow NamePro member

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And is the assumption that we all just read than and know exactly where this blog post is? Part of the issue that will always exist is the cults of personality that tend to exist. The assumption we all read and follow Shane being somewhat of an example.

Silentptnr said:

Shane Cultra - just pm'd with him yesterday here
Page Howe - just saw him selling emoji domains here
Media Options - well, you know what happened last week

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Shane contributes sometimes. Page contributes sometimes. They're part of the forum and use it as a forum. @MediaOptions on the other hand swans in creates a fuss, generates bs threads and then the posts end up deleted. The forum would be better off if he just hung out with the Sherpas, imho. He's very much part of the negative atmosphere that gets generated.

It's not who you are but how you are that matters. I know I've rubbed people the wrong way but such is life.

DU said:

And is the assumption that we all just read than and know exactly where this blog post is?

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No it was not an assumption, just a case of forgetting to add the link. Here is the link:

https://dsad.com/domain-shanes-daily-list-domains-auction-friday-april-21st/

DU said:

I know I've rubbed people the wrong way but such is life.

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But you're Ricky Henderson! Everyone loves Ricky Henderson, so I'm not buying it!

Internet.Domains said:

No it was not an assumption, just a case of forgetting to add the link. Here is the link

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Thank you. It didn't let me post the link but thank you for the link.

I don't know Shane or the history of this place beyond a couple weeks as mostly casual member.
My take, which means nothing.
The job of a moderator is a tough one I would think.
Shane is asking for censorship on a public forum.
It's needed at times but it's a really fine line.
You don't want a forum to run amok, but you want it to run amok.

Remember, half the people out there are idiots.

whoops, edit here. I should have checked earlier.
What is the amount of time one can go back and edit their post?
It seems overnight or a day had passed and I noticed I still had that option. I mistakenly spoke before this edit that I thought one could go back at anytime and edit what they said.
Thank you.

DU said:

I know I've rubbed people the wrong way but such is life.

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After your negative comments, I don't doubt that at all....

I think as with any community there are bound to be some arguments and disagreements and yeah sometimes they get heated. Folks here are generally mature enough to forgive, forget and move on. No hard feelings...

The overall vibe on NP is awesome..... this place kicks @ss!

Internet.Domains said:

No it was not an assumption, just a case of forgetting to add the link. Here is the link:

https://dsad.com/domain-shanes-daily-list-domains-auction-friday-april-21st/

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Reading the link it's rather an odd post - maybe it was a slow news day. "A textbook case of what happens to your business" is a period that has since rectified and traffic is down up. I would say things did get bad when the PRO group was formed. As with every forum on a narrow/niche subject forums get old and tired for long time users and new blood needs to come in and fill the void. I don't know who the influencers are that left that the forum hasn't replaced, I'd be interested to know. Good people have left but many remain. Statements like " But lack of transparency and control will always open things up for problems" is a typical 21st century view and a common mantra of the early days of social media and is largely debunked. Transparency has a purpose but there are limits... I think the mods do a decent job of communicating.

You can't have the .com vs .whatever discussion be brand new for everyone every week. Domaining hasn't changed much in a long time - it's made up of the experienced, the dreamers, the grafters, the manipulators, the liars, the thiefs, the intelligent, the honest, the helpers, the trolls. These groups will conflict.

As with everything, people just need to check your ego at the door when entering a building (especially if you're new to the building).

I don't think there's a negative culture at all at NP. There are specific people with specific battles. Religion and Politics have been cordoned off by the community naturally (not through rules) and overall the flow of communication is informative. DIsagreements happen of course and sometimes there are people more on one side than the other. A recent legal thread got somewhat contentious recently but even there decent opinion and understanding was provided that otherwise would not.... so disagreements and different views are extremely important.

The key ingredients to toxic threads are subjects that start with a controversial or agitating point of view (i.e. Person A says don't pay the broker) then have lots of feedback quickly (2-3 pages of posts) and then have everyone come in with an opinion without taking the time to read the aforementioned 2-3 pages. These threads grow and become what they were always destined to come troll-bait. Some are attempted troll bait and just fail into thread mediocrity.

Overall there are awesome people on NP with the odd person to avoid.

I think from certain members, sort of a "Good ol" Boy" network who want to censor voices, not because they disagree with the point of view, but because they don't like the person it's coming from.

Case in point, I posted "Happy 420..." in the Cannabis Thread, on April 20th, and my post was deleted as not appropriate, however, others who posted the exact same "Happy 420" were left in place.

If you can't say Happy 420 in the Marijuana thread, on April 20th, something is seriously wrong, perhaps the moderators should look at those leveling the complaint and question their motives.

Update: As I was writing this I was informed the other Happy 420 posts were removed. But is that the answer, to censor a "Happy 420" post in the most appropriate thread, on the most appropriate day of the year.

coolbreeze said:

Update: As I was writing this I was informed the other Happy 420 posts were removed. But is that the answer, to censor a "Happy 420" post in the most appropriate thread, on the most appropriate day of the year.

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People love to throw the term "censor" and "censorship" around.

If someone reported the posts off-topic (which arguably they are) then that's cleaning up a thread (arguably misguided). Censorship would be if they prevented you from making your very own Happy 4-20 thread somewhere else. Complaining about a single disagreement with a mod hardly relates to a negative culture though.

coolbreeze said:

not because they disagree with the point of view, but because they don't like the person it's coming from.
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I think @Eric Lyon has stated policy many times and it's not worth rehashing. The question I have for your and others - what needs to happen to stop people from having a persecution complex. The answer is a broader question than this thread deserves, however.

coolbreeze said:

Case in point, I posted "Happy 420..." in the Cannabis Thread, on April 20th, and my post was deleted as not appropriate, however, others who posted the exact same "Happy 420" were left in place.

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@DU response is excellent, but I'll add one thing:

Only @coolbreeze's post was reported at the time.

(Sorry in advance for those who have read me stating the following many times already )

There are thousands of new posts on NamePros every single day and it is impractical for us to read even a small percentage of them. Staff almost never interacts with any content unless it is reported. That is the case 99% of the time whenever this comes up.

coolbreeze said:

Update: As I was writing this I was informed the other Happy 420 posts were removed. But is that the answer, to censor a "Happy 420" post in the most appropriate thread, on the most appropriate day of the year.

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If you post the content in a thread that permits it or create a new thread that does, then those posts won't be removed. We don't choose the purpose of a thread, the first post and the title do.

Please start a new thread to discuss anything unrelated to this thread.


Thanks for understanding,

I come here to learn, I just look for threads where I can learn. I ignore the rest.

For me, namepros is the best place to learn about domaining.

Interesting thread...

I can't speak for this place, but I can speak for this type of post being found similar anywhere in life. It happens in every community at the micro and macro level. I see this mentality inside my condo complex, my local government community, in our country, in the office, in every aspect of life. It is a very strong part of our capitalistic mentality and culture. Dominate, divide, conquer. From grade school you are taught how to compete in every aspect of your life...us versus them, winner versus loser, patriarch society, alpha dog, whatever you want to call it, or just all the above. It is why have such a bully problem in every aspect of life. It is part of our DNA sadly. It is why we go to war. Why we hate and love.

How do you overcome? Simple...

As Gandhi would say, "Be the change you wish to see in the world!"

Or as Jesus would say, “You are the light of the world."

So be the light