warning Arunas Zygis stole $900 USD from me

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

Hi,

I've bought a 4L domain under the privacy protect, now I think it was not his and he insisted to pay as a gift 900 USD by PayPal. So I did yesterday,, because I don't like for sellers to pay 5% mostly and offer them gift payment.. Now as of today his account
@ZArunas is auto closed.

What can I do? I just made a dispute on PayPal for unauthorized transaction.
Thank you all in advance,

Robert

Details about ZArunas, ArzysArt

Name on PayPal Account:

Arunas Zygis

Email addresses:

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (.lt is the ccTLD for Lithuania)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Location:

Continent: Europe
Country: Republic of Lithuania (lt flag)
State/Region: Kaunas
City: Kaunas

Real IP addresses (not proxies):

78.62.223.73 * Used often by this member
84.55.51.252 * Used often by this member
194.126.252.241 * Used often by this member
84.15.190.206
213.226.131.133
84.15.186.23
88.119.140.11
90.134.151.134
37.0.245.102
88.222.95.123
83.188.43.152
213.130.202.89
37.0.230.185
84.15.184.51

GoDaddy Account / Customer Numbers:

147174832
132621499
140330781

NameSilo Account Usernames:

arunasmacky
xarunasx

Phone Numbers:

+370 867480566 (real number)
+370 68578945
+370 67480566 (whois)

Skype:

arzys1

Domain Name: BXA.CO (Whois Record for 2017-03-30)

Registrant Name: Arunas Zygis
Registrant Organization: Zygis CO
Registrant Address1: Nidos 5-32
Registrant City: Vilnius
Registrant State/Province: Vilniaus Apskritis
Registrant Postal Code: 06298
Registrant Country: Lithuania
Registrant Country Code: LT
Registrant Phone Number: +370.67480566
Registrant Email: [email protected]

Domain Name: 0111.INFO (Whois Record for 2016-02-11)

Registrant Name: Arunas Zygis
Registrant Street: Jaunimo g.7
Registrant City: Jauniunai
Registrant State/Province: Vilniaus aps.
Registrant Postal Code: 19008
Registrant Country: LT
Registrant Phone: +370.67480566
Registrant Email: [email protected]

Hootsifer · Mar 29, 2017

I was making a point. High end transactions should be escrow or similiar. A little bit with paypal is alright if you feel you can trust the party but it's never a sure thing. Paypal disputes have been around forever and gift paypal is only for friends and family.

rokaska7 · Mar 29, 2017

The name sounds like he could be a guy from my country. Hit me up with more details, maybe I willd dig something up.

jamesau · Mar 29, 2017

I recognised the name so did a search in my email and worked out I sold some domains last year via PayPal to one of the email addresses above. It was through a different Namepros username.

Don't want to name and shame anybody yet so will contact mods with details to figure out next steps.

imadoer · Mar 29, 2017

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

GOOD NEWS!

frank-germany said:
yes I though so too

but when there no funds.. paypal doesn't pay you

..I am not making this up
a guy still ows me 363 euro
of not send goods
from an ebay deal

nobody cares
as "case closed"

.......

We've finished reviewing your unauthorized activity claim and you'll
receive a refund for the transaction amount. It may take up to 5 business
days for the funds to appear in your account.

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

Now the moderators can block his multiple accounts and track them down on NPs.

DNWon · Mar 29, 2017

Who done it?
https://www.google.com/search?q=J.+...VCzGMKHb1VB0EQ7AkIVA&biw=1680&bih=939#imgrc=_
Not to make light of serious situation but my curiosity took over and I have to laugh at about the fifth line down in the middle is a picture of a snake!

anantj · Mar 29, 2017

uglydork said:
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Can you not request a chargeback? It does not appear that you paid via F&F

uglydork · Mar 29, 2017

Im trying!

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

joro001 said:
Sorry to hear this OP.

What i'm going to say won't be popular but I would say goodbye to the money and use it as a learning experience. Some of the advice here is frankly horrible.

As others have mentioned a gift payment is exactly that not meant for business deals, Paypal masspay is there if you want to cover fees as the buyer. You have claimed an unauthorized transaction which is frankly 100% false as you did authorize it. If Paypal investigate and see your IP etc. matches up and you did approve it and used it for a business transaction you could very well lose your Paypal account for good.

If it were me I would cancel the dispute and move on unless you are happy to risk losing your Paypal account forever for $900.

I know Joro, thanks for your advice. I was just naive, but paying as a gift to risk my money and Paypal account to unselfishly gain some extra dollars for the seller is not a good case. I believe I will not be using this option any more as it should be for family and closest friends only. Or will use Escrow in the future for everything of 500+ USD..

anantj · Mar 29, 2017

decades80 said:
GOOD NEWS!

.......

We've finished reviewing your unauthorized activity claim and you'll
receive a refund for the transaction amount. It may take up to 5 business
days for the funds to appear in your account.

Congratulations. Extremely lucky but glad it turned out in your favor

uglydork · Mar 29, 2017

Lesson learned - Escrow for everything unless its people I deal with all the time.

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

If the guy hadnt have auto closed the NPs account after 1 day after the transaction only

I think I would still have paid him another part in 2 days. But this morning in less than 24 hours this was like an alarm sign to me.

so actually it was quite impossible for him to transfer funds to card or on bank account, because that needs like 2-3 business days.

frank-germany · Mar 29, 2017

good to hear you were able to solve that

tldboss · Mar 29, 2017

Great news, happy the scammer is not going to profit from this. Drinks on you

It was going to be a really expensive lesson

anyway, it is still a lesson for all, never use PP family and friends option for $xxx domain transactions with strangers

SuperBrander · Mar 29, 2017

Great to hear that Paypal was helpful and that you're getting a refund. Hopefully @uglydork will get his refund too and that scammer won't show his face around here anymore.

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI · Mar 29, 2017

anantj said:
I'm not sure if this is advisable. The domain is under privacy and I don't see how one can be certain that the scammer even owned the domain. This might put a legitimate but different domain owner into trouble or at a minimum, severe inconvenience. Imagine one of your domains was used in a scam and the victim had your domain locked. Further, this happened at a time when you were about to close a big deal (or any deal really).

But I am sure that this is advisable (otherwise I would not have wrote it).
I understand your point - but neverteheless, in such a critical situation it is the best if the domain gets disabled (if this is possible) until it's clear that the real owner has nothing to do with this 'deal'.
If this is the case, the owner will have no problem to proof that.

Beside handling the current situation and as others mentioned already, the main point is, that if we BUYYY something 'via' PayPal, we have to choose the PAYYY option and not the MAKE GIFT option.
On the other side, if we MAKE A GIFT to someone via PayPal, we will not choose the PAYYY option

+++

In the meanwhile I read, that it turned out that the buyer will get back his money.
Congrats, hopefully this will never happen again to someone.

DnFolk · Mar 29, 2017

I have done my research i have realized that @ZArunas earlier account was @John Pem who had done fraud with @varmuk HERE

DnFolk · Mar 29, 2017

had doubts before only but was not confirmed. still i told @varmuk to inform @Eric Lyon to be aware of it.

MapleDots · Mar 29, 2017

I process all payments via credit card directly at my business unless you give me a money order. If I sell a domain at 5k I ask $125 (2.5%) to cover the fees. They can then have the domain immediately. They do however have to sign an invoice authorizing the charge to their credit card.

They can chose to wait for the bank draft with no fees but still have to sign a bill of sale.

I have had people ask for escrow but I tell them its a business, they get my real address and a real invoice and and all my whois on hundreds of domains is open. You want my domain you deal my way so that I do not get ripped off... period. I do not need escrow to sell to end users. In fact my way works so well that I have never been ripped off in all my years of business.

That said, I have had some pretty shady people contact me out of the blue on namePro and offer me insane deals on domains. If I suspect anything I ask them to make whois public and add a 3 digit code to their name. If I see the whois change then I know its their domain.

So as a rule... you can always ask the owner of a domain to make a specific change to whois so you can be assured they are the actual owner. Sites like sedo do it all the time so they can be assured you are the real owner.

FNet · Mar 29, 2017

So glad for happy ending! Great news OP. And sharing at NP was beneficial for most of us.

Eric Lyon · Mar 29, 2017

alcy said:
unless there is such a thing as hijacking np account and using it for evil things.. especially if it auto closes...

There is no evidence or reports of that happening, but we recommend everyone enable two-step verification on your NamePros account to keep it protected: https://www.namepros.com/account/two-step

akos said:
He did some free domain giveaways here on NP and asked for trade feedback to pump his ratings up only to build trust

This is not allowed. Anyone asking you to leave feedback for a non-transaction must be reported. If we find it happening, both parties could be penalized. Please report.

Rinkuji said:
As per my knowledge Auto Closed done by system when there were two accounts get open from same IP address. If that's true then fraudster still here on NP with another account.

We have been tracking this member closely and we're always adding more proxy/VPN bans to our blacklist to prevent anyone from using them on NamePros. It's a continuous process because as we block proxies, more become available. Anyone able to use them is only able to do so in that brief period of time of a new proxy becoming available and us blocking it, but persistent scammers will keep finding new proxies to use so doing your due diligence and following best practices in deals is always important.

4pm said:
why was not his account closed back then?

It was closed back then and still is closed. This is a different account with different proxies being used.

We are gathering information and will post an update once we finish our investigation.

Thanks for your patience,

VaibhavA · Mar 29, 2017

I am sorry to hear that. Its bad for online business.

People who cheat dont realize what karma they have created. He will have to face it.

Thanks for sharing.

Congrats on getting your money back.

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

Thank you all for nice thoughts, I received plenty of very kind and encouraging PMs and I will reply to ALL tomorrow,

Thank you again.

Kate · Mar 29, 2017

MapleDots said:
So as a rule... you can always ask the owner of a domain to make a specific change to whois so you can be assured they are the actual owner.

But somebody who stole a domain will have no problem doing that...
Also, altering the whois may trigger a transfer lock. So I would be hesitant do to that unless I know the other party is going to buy the domain, or accept a push. I'd rather add a TXT record in the DNS, than touch the whois record.

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