warning Arunas Zygis stole $900 USD from me

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

Hi,

I've bought a 4L domain under the privacy protect, now I think it was not his and he insisted to pay as a gift 900 USD by PayPal. So I did yesterday,, because I don't like for sellers to pay 5% mostly and offer them gift payment.. Now as of today his account
@ZArunas is auto closed.

What can I do? I just made a dispute on PayPal for unauthorized transaction.
Thank you all in advance,

Robert

Details about ZArunas, ArzysArt

Name on PayPal Account:

Arunas Zygis

Email addresses:

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (.lt is the ccTLD for Lithuania)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Location:

Continent: Europe
Country: Republic of Lithuania (lt flag)
State/Region: Kaunas
City: Kaunas

Real IP addresses (not proxies):

78.62.223.73 * Used often by this member
84.55.51.252 * Used often by this member
194.126.252.241 * Used often by this member
84.15.190.206
213.226.131.133
84.15.186.23
88.119.140.11
90.134.151.134
37.0.245.102
88.222.95.123
83.188.43.152
213.130.202.89
37.0.230.185
84.15.184.51

GoDaddy Account / Customer Numbers:

147174832
132621499
140330781

NameSilo Account Usernames:

arunasmacky
xarunasx

Phone Numbers:

+370 867480566 (real number)
+370 68578945
+370 67480566 (whois)

Skype:

arzys1

Domain Name: BXA.CO (Whois Record for 2017-03-30)

Registrant Name: Arunas Zygis
Registrant Organization: Zygis CO
Registrant Address1: Nidos 5-32
Registrant City: Vilnius
Registrant State/Province: Vilniaus Apskritis
Registrant Postal Code: 06298
Registrant Country: Lithuania
Registrant Country Code: LT
Registrant Phone Number: +370.67480566
Registrant Email: [email protected]

Domain Name: 0111.INFO (Whois Record for 2016-02-11)

Registrant Name: Arunas Zygis
Registrant Street: Jaunimo g.7
Registrant City: Jauniunai
Registrant State/Province: Vilniaus aps.
Registrant Postal Code: 19008
Registrant Country: LT
Registrant Phone: +370.67480566
Registrant Email: [email protected]

dnk · Mar 29, 2017

Trying contacting the registrar or the paypal email id used for making payment. Which registrar was he using

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

The domain was buqe.com @ Namesilo. Still "owe" him some money because the agreed price was higher and I was supposed to pay the rest this Friday.

imc · Mar 29, 2017

Take screenshots of the domain pre-sale conversations and present it within PayPal dispute. That may help.

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

You can not dispute Gift transaction, so I made an unauthorized payment dispute....

LucidDomains · Mar 29, 2017

decades80 said:
.. dont like for sellers to pay 5% mostly and offer them gift payment..

It's very kind of you to give him $900 gift.

I do hope you get your money back and learn from this in the future.

Messiah · Mar 29, 2017

Sucks man.. This guy offered me the same domain for $1499 on March 13th, but I didn't buy the domain...
Hope you get your money back...

Ted.T · Mar 29, 2017

Was the domain transferred or not? I don't understand this from your message...

Kuffy · Mar 29, 2017

Oh dear, another scammer uysig PayPal. Why do people still use a service that has a 6 month payment confirmation delay, and is the preferred choice of scammers?

LucidDomains · Mar 29, 2017

decades80 said:
ZArunas is auto closed.

Even though he has 11 positive trade reviews, if we look a little deeper, some of the accounts he dealt with are newer accounts and some have don't have high post counts either which makes you wonder. 9 of those trade reviews were in the last month.

Just an observation.

vincew · Mar 29, 2017

Sending the money as a gift might make it hard for you to get your money back, I don't think Paypal will want to help you. When you send money that way the recipient is supposed to be a relative or a friend, you're giving them a "gift". It's not intended to be used for a transaction where someone is buying and someone is selling.

Good luck.

SuperBrander · Mar 29, 2017

That sucks. I hope you'll be able to recover the money (or get the domain). The Gift option at Paypal is a double edged sword and using paypal for expensive transactions with people who aren't 100% trustworthy... risky business. Did you contact NP's staff to find out why his account was closed?

tldboss · Mar 29, 2017

Hope you get your money back, fingers crossed.

The scammer can still come back to NP & do the same thing (using different name, from different location)

decades80 · Mar 29, 2017

Yeah, I believe the "newest" trick now is to make some transactions for few bucks, grow your posts and likes and than put in a signature you have 3.000 USD budget.

LarryDomain · Mar 29, 2017

If you paid by credit card to paypal for the transaction, you can ask your creditcard company to reject the transaction. if the funds were taken from your bank account, you can ask your bank to reject it also. Credit card has a better chance.

Good luck

Haris · Mar 29, 2017

I hope you get your money back @decades80

People need to understand that the money they steal is not some kind of a 'profit', @ZArunas will face a bigger loss and those $900 will never benefit him in any way.

frank-germany · Mar 29, 2017

your chances are minimal
if he takes the money out of paypal
they will give you nothing

but they would have done so
with a normal transaction as well

LarryDomain · Mar 29, 2017

Yeah hard to trust anyone nowadays. Except me ofcourse

Even this well known Shane Bellone due ended up being a crook.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/i-lost-5805usd-through-paypal-scam-by-shane-bellone.995692/

frank-germany · Mar 29, 2017

LarryDomain said:
Yeah hard to trust anyone nowadays. Except me ofcourse

Even this well known Shane Bellone due ended up being a crook.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/i-lost-5805usd-through-paypal-scam-by-shane-bellone.995692/

you can trust 99% of the people

just be aware when this 1% approaches you

joro001 · Mar 29, 2017

Sorry to hear this OP.

What i'm going to say won't be popular but I would say goodbye to the money and use it as a learning experience. Some of the advice here is frankly horrible.

As others have mentioned a gift payment is exactly that not meant for business deals, Paypal masspay is there if you want to cover fees as the buyer. You have claimed an unauthorized transaction which is frankly 100% false as you did authorize it. If Paypal investigate and see your IP etc. matches up and you did approve it and used it for a business transaction you could very well lose your Paypal account for good.

If it were me I would cancel the dispute and move on unless you are happy to risk losing your Paypal account forever for $900.

frank-germany · Mar 29, 2017

joro001 said:
Sorry to hear this OP.

What i'm going to say won't be popular but I would say goodbye to the money and use it as a learning experience. Some of the advice here is frankly horrible.

As others have mentioned a gift payment is exactly that not meant for business deals, Paypal masspay is there if you want to cover fees as the buyer. You have claimed an unauthorized transaction which is frankly 100% false as you did authorize it. If Paypal investigate and see your IP etc. matches up and you did approve it and used it for a business transaction you could very well lose your Paypal account for good.

If it were me I would cancel the dispute and move on unless you are happy to risk losing your Paypal account forever for $900.

100% agreed

don't think of paypal as a "pal"

deez007 · Mar 29, 2017

Sorry to heard about your dilemma...

I think you are going to run into some problems as @joro001 has mentioned already - When they do realize that it was an authorized transaction and not a fraudulent one, they will then ask you why you did a "gift" payment when it was in fact a business transaction and by doing so you were trying to avoid paying them their 5% fee. That will not go down very nicely with them unfortunately.

frank-germany · Mar 29, 2017

it was very kind of you as a nice person you are
to intend to save the commission for the buyer

but never do so with people
who have no great history

and limit your losses
in never doing so above x USD

set up a sum that fits you
and stick to it
no matter what

fruttolo · Mar 29, 2017

Sorry to hear that, I hope you manage to get out of this... and recover your money.

I would never buy a privacy protected name... first you make him take off privacy protection, check whois, and then proceed with caution.

Nikhil Jain · Mar 29, 2017

As a next step, I'd suggest you to get in touch with the Moderators here at NP to understand why his account is Auto-Closed. Can something be work out from their end to get more details of this account including email address or so to get in touch with him ?

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