legal Owner Of BeSpoke.com Being Sued: Wants 8.5 Million for it

Bespoke, too generic, never in a million years will this be a win for the 'plaintiff', funny, I meant to backorder this and got distracted at the time, fml, or I would have had it myself.. the aggrieved is trying to pull a fast one!!!

I checked...they should grab Bespooked.com. It's available for hand reg.

In the UK alone there are over 4000 companies listed at Companies House using the word 'Bespoke' in their company name. It's a common word used by many people, companies and trades. Around the world there must be tens of thousands of companies using the term. I hope this defendant gets good legal advice, puts in a good defence, and gets a good result.

Greed is a sin ! I am on the side of end users! what if the end user was a big company with millions of dollars in hand should I ask them to hand me half their wealth just because I registered the domain before they did!
Letting valuable domains set useless for years asking for 1,000,000,000% ROI to release them to end users is never a good faith !!
IMHO

Price has nothing to do with this - either the registrant has the right to register and sell the domain or not. This is a common dictionary word used by tens of thousands of businesses, trades and companies across the world. Why does this one company, based in the USA, believe it has the exclusive right to this domain? You allege greed - I'm thinking covetousness.

Emmy101 said:

Greed is a sin ! I am on the side of end users! what if the end user was a big company with millions of dollars in hand should I ask them to hand me half their wealth just because I registered the domain before they did!
Letting valuable domains set useless for years asking for 1,000,000,000% ROI to release them to end users is never a good faith !!
IMHO

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So if a person has gold sitting in a vault, the people who need gold for dental work should be able to take it for their fillings and crowns?

Silentptnr said:

So if a person has gold sitting in a vault, the people who need gold for dental work should be able to take it for their fillings and crowns?

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Exactement!

Emmy101 said:

Greed is a sin ! I am on the side of end users! what if the end user was a big company with millions of dollars in hand should I ask them to hand me half their wealth just because I registered the domain before they did!
Letting valuable domains set useless for years asking for 1,000,000,000% ROI to release them to end users is never a good faith !!
IMHO

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I'll use your logic the next time I see a Ferrari parked. I'll just take it and when they arrest me, I'll say, "It was just sitting there!".

Not all domains are millions of dollars. They are wanting a Ferrari, not a scooter. There are plenty of affordable scooters out there. They want the Ferrari at the scooter price. Wrong.

Here in the US, we have what's called a lottery. You can buy a ticket for $1 for a chance to win millions, each and every week.

How is domaining different?

No one can just take away someone's winning ticket, or decide the jackpot is too big. You buy the lucky ticket, you win.

The registrant has already successfully defended a UDRP brought by a different Swiss company. Interesting article here in domainnamewire

Emmy101 said:

Greed is a sin ! I am on the side of end users! what if the end user was a big company with millions of dollars in hand should I ask them to hand me half their wealth just because I registered the domain before they did!
Letting valuable domains set useless for years asking for 1,000,000,000% ROI to release them to end users is never a good faith !!
IMHO

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I can ask for whatever I want if somebody wants to purchase my property.

Seller can ask for a billion dollars or he can say it's simply not for sale.

It's his property. End of story.

Silentptnr said:

Here in the US, we have what's called a lottery. You can buy a ticket for $1 for a chance to win millions, each and every week.

How is domaining different?

No one can just take away someone's winning ticket, or decide the jackpot is too big. You buy the lucky ticket, you win.

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eSoft said:

I can ask for whatever I want if somebody wants to purchase my property.

Seller can ask for a billion dollars or he can say it's simply not for sale.

It's his property. End of story.

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I don't know if I can agree on your definitions as I don't see domain names as "properties" or consider domaining as "lottery" , but anyway it doesn't matter if we have different opinions with all respect to everyone.

Emmy101 said:

I don't know if I can agree on your definitions as I don't see domain names as "properties" or consider domaining as "lottery" , but anyway it doesn't matter if we have different opinions with all respect to everyone.

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I share your view of "property" versus "property rights". However, whether you own "it" or own "rights to it", you can set your own price.

I register a company called Gold, I employ 1000 people, I then go after the domain gold.com and ask for it to be handed to me for peanuts cos I like my name brand? Then I get all bent out of shape cos the owner wants x,xxx,xxx for it? Don't work that way!

Silentptnr said:

I don't see how they can claim it should be theirs just because they don't like the price. I bet if the owner had said 20k, they would have paid. They just don't like the price. They probably figure they could try other, cheaper means first....like trying to take it through udrp.

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That's exactly it...

Silentptnr said:

I share your view of "property" versus "property rights". However, whether you own "it" or own "rights to it", you can set your own price.

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True that!

shane mac said:

I register a company called Gold, I employ 1000 people, I then go after the domain gold.com and ask for it to be handed to me for peanuts cos I like my name brand? Then I get all bent out of shape cos the owner wants x,xxx,xxx for it? Don't work that way!

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You nailed it. It's pure common sense, but the lawyers and the system would disagree and that's exactly what scares me the most.

Silentptnr said:

I checked...they should grab Bespooked.com. It's available for hand reg.

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They really should, until they can afford to cough up the 8.5 millions...

maybe the guy should counter sue for defamation of character

Sticks and stones may break your bones, but destroying someones character can cost you millions

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Silentptnr said:

Not all domains are millions of dollars. They are wanting a Ferrari, not a scooter. There are plenty of affordable scooters out there. They want the Ferrari at the scooter price. Wrong.

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I don't know, I get his point- greed is only logical to the person afflicted with it. I think the 8.5 mil price tag for bespoke.com is ridiculous. Obviously the owner has no intent to sell. But the fact they're getting sued shows they aint the only greedy bastards.

I wouldn't really consider "bespoke" a Ferrari, and having it end with .com doesnt make it so. Helps, thats for sure, but more of a Kia than a Ferrari.

The guy should have said he wasnt looking to sell.

Silentptnr said:

The guy should have said he wasnt looking to sell.

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They can always dream.. but most of time it's just arrogance or getting sick of being lowballed.

wow.. the US company won't have a leg to stand on, based on the limited information we've been able to understand up until now.

Jurisdiction will play a major role. Many international agreements at play. Look for past precedence, and you'll have what you need to know to predict the outcome of this action.

Here's voting the current domain owner has a favourable outcome. The US company should step-up, offer a realistic and reasonable proposal to buy. The current own should seriously assess the value and not simply base it on "that domain name kicks as*...but by way of a realistic valuation, and try to close a deal that mutually benefits both parties. Dare to dream!