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.store vs .shop, what do you think is a better investment and why? Some keywords flow nicely with one or the other, and some flow nice with both new gTLDs, maybe invest in both?
 
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.shop won't be a domainers gtld so what does it matter which one you prefer?

This is what the GMO registry said about .shop in its application:

Registration of a .SHOP domain name solely for the purpose of selling, exchanging, trading, leasing the domain name shall be deemed as inappropriate use or intent.

They will also do random checks to see nobody is breaking this rule. So, as a domainer, if you buy a few .shop domains trying to sell them to end users you may just lose your domain(s) altogether. Not worth the risk, hence I prefer .store.
I could not find anything regarding .shop re-selling restrictions on nic.shop
Does anyone know where I can read info about this ?
 
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I could not find anything regarding .shop re-selling restrictions on nic.shop
Does anyone know where I can read info about this ?
It seems they decided to change it (probably to be able to better compete with .store as that one is unrestricted). In the .shop registration policy (page 11) I read the following now
"Any natural person or entity is eligible to register domain names in the .shop TLD." They also don't mention anything about reselling so I guess that will be allowed now as well.
 
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So You just made this up @Bram C. ?
They will also do random checks to see nobody is breaking this rule. So, as a domainer, if you buy a few .shop domains trying to sell them to end users you may just lose your domain(s) altogether.
It's troubling to see to what extend certain NP members go to blacken new gTLDs
 
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So You just made this up @Bram C. ?

It's troubling to see to what extend certain NP members go to blacken new gTLDs

I made nothing up. I simply quoted it from the GMO registry's original .shop application:

The Applicant will conduct random checks to determine compliance with registrant eligibility, name selection, and usage restrictions (hereafter ʺeligibility requirementsʺ) using sampling methodologies. In case the Applicant determines a sampled domain is in violation of the eligibility requirements, the domain name may be deleted or placed on lock, hold, or similar status.

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And in their application this is what the GMO registry said about "usage restrictions"

3. Usage Restrictions
The purpose of the domain name usage will be restricted as follows:
a. Registered .SHOP domain names must be used for commercial activities in an online or offline environment, or to provide information in relation thereto over the internet; or
b. Registered .SHOP domain names must be intended to be used primarily for commercial activities in an online or offline environment, or to provide information in relation thereto over the internet.

Registration of a .SHOP domain name solely for the purpose of selling, exchanging, trading, leasing the domain name shall be deemed as inappropriate use or intent.

SOURCE: http://www.gtld-similarity.info/apps/1794.html

See also thread: https://www.namepros.com/threads/wi...hile-store-is-not-really.959285/#post-5632105
 
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For me .store is better than .shop: more professional
 
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I made nothing up. I simply quoted it from the GMO registry's original .shop application:
You made this up @Bram C.
They will also do random checks to see nobody is breaking this rule. So, as a domainer, if you buy a few .shop domains trying to sell them to end users you may just lose your domain(s) altogether.
 
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You made this up @Bram C.

They will also do random checks to see nobody is breaking this rule. So, as a domainer, if you buy a few .shop domains trying to sell them to end users you may just lose your domain(s) altogether.

is the same as what they said in their application

The Applicant will conduct random checks to determine compliance with registrant eligibility, name selection, and usage restrictions (hereafter ʺeligibility requirementsʺ) using sampling methodologies. In case the Applicant determines a sampled domain is in violation of the eligibility requirements, the domain name may be deleted or placed on lock, hold, or similar status.

So I made nothing up. Maybe you should read that whole application at least one time before acting all paranoid and claiming that this is some attempt to blacken the new gTLDs lol?


BTW, I bought some .store domains and will probably buy some .shop domains as well (if they aren't restricted of course) ;)
 
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There's a difference in between "quoting" something and "making up" your own interpretation.
 
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For me both are excellent. I am ready to invest to any name which will have normal renewal rate and good meaning for end users..unfortunately most of such domains in .shop and .shore are already priced with very high yearly renewals :(
 
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BTW, I bought some .store domains and will probably buy some .shop domains as well ;)
Oh, I get you now...
You litter the new gTLD threads with Negativity to discourage other domainers and meanwhile You're shopping for gTLDs yourself.
 
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There's a difference in between "quoting" something and "making up" your own interpretation.
Lol i guess you're just trolling now.

Newsflash: Even some of the big domaining blogs were talking about this at the time. For example:
http://domainincite.com/19886-shop-gtld-sells-for-record-41-5-million

Scroll down to the middle of the blog post and you'll see the following text :

But domainers will not be welcome in the gTLD. GMO’s application reads:


Registration of a .SHOP domain name solely for the purpose of selling, exchanging, trading, leasing the domain name shall be deemed as inappropriate use or intent.


The company plans to do random spot checks to make sure no registrants are breaking this rule.

So I guess according to you he made it up as well. Or maybe, just maybe, he read the GMO application like I did.

And I don't litter the gTLD threads with negativity. I give my opinion. A forum is meant for people to share their opinion. You love gTLDs, I get that. I'm not a big fan but I do like a few. .Shop is one of those I like. If .shop will be allowed for reselling purposes I will be glad and invest in some. If not then I won't. It's not rocket science. And it's definitely not some conspiracy against the new gTLDs.
 
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.shop can be used as a noun as well as a verb. So does store, although the verb "store" is unrelated to shopping.

cars.shop (verb makes more sense than the noun version)

Furniture.store = furniture store
Shop.furniture= Shop (verb) for furniture
 
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Not sure about other countries, but in the UK (generally speaking) "shop" tends to be a smaller building than "store".
So a store would be a large supermarket, or huge clothes or toy "store" etc, whereas a shop is a smaller place, like a small corner shop which sells newspapers, a little food, beer, sweets, etc.

As for the TLDs, well, so many to choose from now, I think none of them are valuable unless the world goes nuts for them and everyone uses one of them. That hasn't happened yet, so my preference is currently "neither" :)
 
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For me both are excellent. I am ready to invest to any name which will have normal renewal rate and good meaning for end users..unfortunately most of such domains in .shop and .shore are already priced with very high yearly renewals :(
I prefer .store but for market both are good I think: no difference.
 
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but for market both are good I think

Which market is that? I cannot find a single sale for either of them. Namebio.com and dnpric.es and others don't even have the TLDs in their drop down list.

Sincerely, this means something...what it means is entirely up to you to decide based on your business approach ;) for me it means $0 with a potential for the obvious and mega keywords to sell some time in the next 3-10 years (clothes.store, etc).. or maybe not, who knows
 
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Which market is that? I cannot find a single sale for either of them. Namebio.com and dnpric.es and others don't even have the TLDs in their drop down list.

Sincerely, this means something...what it means is entirely up to you to decide based on your business approach ;) for me it means $0 with a potential for the obvious and mega keywords to sell some time in the next 3-10 years (clothes.store, etc)
.Shop is not yet on the market.
Yes with new gTLDs you have to buy super domains and wait... It's my strategy.
 
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Here you make it sound interesting and has potential.
for market both are good

Here you clearly state one is dead, no sales, not an investment to make.
.Shop is not yet on the market.

Here you state both are a major risk with no known possible outcome.
Yes with new gTLDs you have to buy super domains and wait

So to wait and see if they start selling, with hope, is a gamble, and these are not traits of an investment. One might as well go to the casino ;)

I raise this as a lot of newcomers will be reading, and even some longer term domainers, who are prone to finding some keywords on new TLDs seeing they sold for 4, 5, or 6 figures in com, and jump with glee thinking they've hit the jackpot. When the absolute reality is they are not selling.

Look, even if they do one day, there are so many new TLDs that the buying power cannot sustain all new TLDs to be valuable. Which means they are all low value (2 figures, albeit at least selling) or one or two take off and the rest are still worthless.

It's a risky investment as there is no past history to go by, there is no data, there is nothing but a gamble. I sincerely wish everyone luck, but personally I don't like to do business with sheer luck, that's not business it's blind betting at a card game ;)
 
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Here you make it sound interesting and has potential.


Here you clearly state one is dead, no sales, not an investment to make.


Here you state both are a major risk with no known possible outcome.


So to wait and see if they start selling, with hope, is a gamble, and these are not traits of an investment. One might as well go to the casino ;)

I raise this as a lot of newcomers will be reading, and even some longer term domainers, who are prone to finding some keywords on new TLDs seeing they sold for 4, 5, or 6 figures in com, and jump with glee thinking they've hit the jackpot. When the absolute reality is they are not selling.

Look, even if they do one day, there are so many new TLDs that the buying power cannot sustain all new TLDs to be valuable. Which means they are all low value (2 figures, albeit at least selling) or one or two take off and the rest are still worthless.

It's a risky investment as there is no past history to go by, there is no data, there is nothing but a gamble. I sincerely wish everyone luck, but personally I don't like to do business with sheer luck, that's not business it's blind betting at a card game ;)
My friend, Now you can only pre-order the .shop. .SHOP: Available on September 26th,2016.
I don't go to the casino, but I invest in stock markets for more than ten years now. Risk does not frighten me... :-D and for me the risk with domains is nothing if I compare it with the risk with stocks... :-D
If you don't believe in new gtlds, don't invest in them. Personally I believe in new gtlds, then I invest in them. ;)
 
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If you don't believe in new gtlds, don't invest in them. Personally I believe in new gtlds, then I invest in them. ;)
I already knew all that, like I said in my post, it wasn't for you, it was for others who might take advice from your inaccurate post and the fact this is entirely a gamble ;)
 
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I already knew all that, like I said in my post, it wasn't for you, it was for others who might take advice from your inaccurate post and the fact this is entirely a gamble ;)
But you speak about .Shop without knowing that the .Shop is not yet available...:laugh:
But now I'll help you in your mission with an accurate post: People do not buy new domains, please, it's a gamble. ;) Do not buy new domains, please, please, please...;););)
No one can stop revolutions...
 
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I still didn´t list my ".shop" domains for sale in any platform. I am not 100% sure if it goes against their Terms and Conditions. Does somebody heard something about this lately? Thank you!
 
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Well, it's available now :)

Thanks,
Brandon
 
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I have been reading the Terms in Conditions in https://nic.shop/ . There stands anything about taking the domains away from domainers. So i went ahead yesterday and listed some of them in the different platforms.
 
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AMS on Google:

"store" 450 000
"shop" 368 000

At this point, the difference is not essential, though. As mentioned, it rather depends on what's being sold, imo.

Yeah, the terms are split pretty evenly but there are domains that only make sense in combination with one of the two. I can't think of a good example right now. Anyone chip in?

Thanks,
Brandon
 
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