new gtlds Pre-registration phase of a new gTLD

Killurjob · May 21, 2016

Hello everybody, I pre-registered a new ggTld of 3 characters, a few months ago. The day of go live (without receiving any notice) it is not present it in my account and not even in the label "pre-registration". Two days after I found it on sale on Godaddy to a 80.6 times higher price. Some details:
- The word does not violate copyright or other
- The domain was obviously "freely" bookable
- The Hosting six days before the go live has confirmed to me the "ok" to proceed with the charge on my credit card before 23 May 2016.
- I opened a support ticket to understand cause my domain “***.***” it’s disappeared and It’s for sale on a hosting platform, the answer was: "I Can See That the domain “***. ***” Was unfortunately reserved by the “.***” registry, the authority That oversees all “.***” domain names. " and "A domain registry may elect to reserve an unregistered domain name at any point, and as a registrar we have no influence on registry policy."
- From the moment when I proceed to the pre registration of a domain, this is no longer adjustable pre by other users. If the final payment arrangement was successful, I consider there is no distinction between "pre-registration" and "registration".
- From the moment when I assure to be able to pay off what was agreed and since the hosting company has confirmed the possibility of concluding the transaction, I think that possible "arrest" of the procedure should be seriously justified, otherwise, I consider that it could bring arise many "monopolies dictatorial".
- The Internet domain is also understood as a ”own intellectual creation" from the moment I carry out the step of "pre registration" is because I previously spent time and creativity to choose which gSLD register, and why.

Now I think that, perhaps because I am very upset and I feel infringed in my freedom to express my creativity (although it can be appreciated or not), deprived "wrongfully" for the limited purpose of profit ("first come first served in my case does not apply? ") without being alerted and on the basis of a contractual technicality, I think “Unconstitutional".
I'm crazy or is this the regularity?
(Sorry for my english :D )

K.

doubleU · May 21, 2016

Join the the club, the registries are top of the food-chain in this business.

There are only a few businesses I can think of that are greedier than the domain business, oil and pharmacy drugs being on top of that list.

Killurjob · May 21, 2016

Thank you for your reply, I feel less alone, your words are sacrosanct... I am so angry that I have issued the alert to all the associations for consumers in my country and I am contacting those at European level, if I get no answers, starting Monday each six hours I will compile the notification form of the Antitrust Authority and of the Federal Bureau, say that it is useless?

doubleU · May 21, 2016

Killurjob said:
Thank you for your reply, I feel less alone, your words are sacrosanct... I am so angry that I have issued the alert to all the associations for consumers in my country and I am contacting those at European level, if I get no answers, starting Monday each six hours I will compile the notification form of the Antitrust Authority and of the Federal Bureau, say that it is useless?

I'm pretty sure that the newer registries spy on whois checks that are being preformed before the GA launch.

Domain that are frequently/most checked are then considered for premium status before we can register them.

Killurjob · May 21, 2016

In my country if an item is sold through in a store and has an exposed price, the shopkeeper can not refuse to sell the item to the advertised price. The problem concerns the shopkeeper who did not conduct its own checks before implementing the sales stage.
Given that they can prevent the registration of domains 1 or 2 characters, and immediately increase the cost for those "premium" directly from the pre-order stage, if I find a very good domain at price of $29 and I pre ordered it, once paid must be made out to me. But I must have the opportunity to pay.
I am very angry, but maybe I fight against the windmills...

platey · May 21, 2016

Killurjob said:
Hello everybody, I pre-registered a new ggTld of 3 characters, a few months ago. The day of go live (without receiving any notice) it is not present it in my account and not even in the label "pre-registration". Two days after I found it on sale on Godaddy to a 80.6 times higher price. Some details:
- The word does not violate copyright or other
- The domain was obviously "freely" bookable
- The Hosting six days before the go live has confirmed to me the "ok" to proceed with the charge on my credit card before 23 May 2016.
- I opened a support ticket to understand cause my domain “***.***” it’s disappeared and It’s for sale on a hosting platform, the answer was: "I Can See That the domain “***. ***” Was unfortunately reserved by the “.***” registry, the authority That oversees all “.***” domain names. " and "A domain registry may elect to reserve an unregistered domain name at any point, and as a registrar we have no influence on registry policy."
- From the moment when I proceed to the pre registration of a domain, this is no longer adjustable pre by other users. If the final payment arrangement was successful, I consider there is no distinction between "pre-registration" and "registration".
- From the moment when I assure to be able to pay off what was agreed and since the hosting company has confirmed the possibility of concluding the transaction, I think that possible "arrest" of the procedure should be seriously justified, otherwise, I consider that it could bring arise many "monopolies dictatorial".
- The Internet domain is also understood as a ”own intellectual creation" from the moment I carry out the step of "pre registration" is because I previously spent time and creativity to choose which gSLD register, and why.

Now I think that, perhaps because I am very upset and I feel infringed in my freedom to express my creativity (although it can be appreciated or not), deprived "wrongfully" for the limited purpose of profit ("first come first served in my case does not apply? ") without being alerted and on the basis of a contractual technicality, I think “Unconstitutional".
I'm crazy or is this the regularity?
(Sorry for my english :D )

K.

pre registering a domain

i have had a couple of different experiences with pre registering domain names

my first example is when i pre registered a domain name and got a confirmation email confirming my
domain name pre registraion and i forgot all about it

then whilst looking at other domains started to see that the gtld i had pre registered was appearing in whois etc so i checked my own whois for the domain i registered and it wasnt showing as registered to me so i went and typed my pre registered domain in to the registrar's search engine and it said that the domain name was available to buy {which it should not have been if i had pre registered it or if someone else beat me to it etc}

so i contacted the registrar who when they looked in to told me words to the effect that my pre registration got overlooked for some reason - but fortunately it was still available and i bought it there and then

mind you i let it go a year later lol

and a few months later i pre registered 3 .tennis domains 2 i missed out on but got the biggee again the one that i got i bought purely so that the person if they wanted to could have the domain at its cost renewal fee if they wanted it and as such i would have not made or wanted to make any money from any sale of that domain as it is the person was made aware that the domain is theirs if they want it no communication was received back so i shall not be renewing it when it expires this year

but suffice to say i know what its like to pre registrar a domain that wasnt pre registered and only got it by sheer fluke

and 2 where other registrars were quicker than me and one where i was quicker than them

remember all the registrars compete for their customers against other registrars and its pretty much 1st come 1st served

platey · May 23, 2016

on the subject of pre registration of new gtld's when you pre register with your registrar there are other people pre registering with different registrars etc

but has anyone ever won the pre registered domain that they pre registered prior to knowing the price but then finding that the new gtld that they pre registered has a very high price set by the registrar etc a price they are not prepared to pay as it is far too high or they simply cant etc in such cases has anyone been offered a successful pre registered new gtld that has been won etc but transferred to a different domain investor to takeover the pre register or would the registrar just sell it to a different pre registered bidder?

Killurjob · May 23, 2016

In my case, as argued in the reply to my ticket, the lock operation was done by the autority that manages the extension .***
If they had requested the amount to my credit card, the payment he would go successful and I would have the domain available.
Moreover the composition of the three letters that I have chosen, up to 10 days ago had always relatively low prices, for several days seems overestimated when available.

platey · May 23, 2016

Killurjob said:
In my country if an item is sold through in a store and has an exposed price, the shopkeeper can not refuse to sell the item to the advertised price. The problem concerns the shopkeeper who did not conduct its own checks before implementing the sales stage.
Given that they can prevent the registration of domains 1 or 2 characters, and immediately increase the cost for those "premium" directly from the pre-order stage, if I find a very good domain at price of $29 and I pre ordered it, once paid must be made out to me. But I must have the opportunity to pay.
I am very angry, but maybe I fight against the windmills...

i can see why they charge your card so that you have effectively bought the domain if they manage to beat the other registrars to the domain name you pre registered because if they did not charge your card and they made the effort to try and a get the domain you wanted to pre register and a person change their mind etc and if they were not able to obtain the domain you wanted to pre register etc they should reinburse you or like a pub does when opening a tab asks for the card first and a customer settles at the end of the meal etc

platey · May 30, 2016

pre registering new gtlds

as the price of a pre registered domain name is usually 0.00p if pre registered early enough etc
so a person for example orders a pre registered a domain with their registrar etc thinking when the price of the gtld becomes known etc it will be approx $20-30 ish? which to most is ok only to find that some of their pre registered domain names have got prices of 2.5k+ etc such is the quality of the pre registered domain the pre registered etc

this then poses the problem in as much as a domain name investor may have budgeted for eg 10 pre registered domain names etc at a total price of say? $200 ? only to find the domain names the pre registered may cost them $20k ? depending on the quality of the domains they pre registered etc

if they were to win the pre registered domains i reckon there will be a lot of people trying to find financial backers to go halves or become partners to acquire their pre registered domain names

and it would work because an investor wouldnt be able to buy the pre registered domain name because the person who won the pre registered domain has that right only but with out the investor paying the money to acquire the expensive pre registered domain the domain cannot be owned by the person who won the pre registered domain so neither can profit from the successful pre registered domain unless they team up together as a partnership to acquire and thus profit from valuable pre registered domain names?

so i reckon it wont be long before domain name investors start advertising in the forum threads for investors to buy their successful pre registered domain names even to the point of holding auctions to raise investment etc in exchange for a part ownership of a domain name

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