discuss .XYZ THREAD - Sales, Regs, Discussion, News, Debates

artstar · Nov 2, 2015

I searched out all the threads and there isn't an officially designated .xyz thread so how about this one to cover the subject?

So to start off my first xyz reg is:

SH3.xyz

Sh stands for Shanghai

May have little value if any but I like short domains as possible that I can get in new extensions and with majority of numbers taken I figured why not for the low reg fee right now. Plus it sorry of rhymes.

phantasmagoria · Feb 15, 2016

I have registered .xyz names where the dot info or net counterpart has sold in the mid to high xxxx, it would be crazy not to reg the .xyz of it if you see them. Yes, you cannot just blindly register names, he's right about that one.

But you gotta ask yourself, how many people really know .info exists? and that has 5 million regs, .xyz about half of that. I have seen .info's sell very well, and they still kind of do today, personally I think .xyz will surpass .info in the near future, and yes even surpass .net and .org (there I said it lol)

You cannot deny where .xyz is headed man, you could have maybe said last year that the extension was doomed, but from everything I have seen recently, from more members and investors putting their money in the pot, to these mass registrations, the future for .xyz is positive when you compare it to other new non .com extensions. I would think namepros would be thrilled with the opportunity here.

But it has been the opposite, I visit several domain news sites, and whenever there's an article saying anything positive about the extension or when it reaches a certain goal, you'll have the usual suspects laughing it off, calling it a waste of money, how negari should be in jail, etc. How it could never reach x amount of regs, but we are way beyond that now.

Cyrilek · Feb 15, 2016

Mr Dobalina said:
Similar pricing on .INFO and .US. I'm curious to see retention rate as well on XYZ.

Cyrilek · Feb 15, 2016

where can I get cheap price for .us and .info?
thank you

JB Lions · Feb 15, 2016

phantasmagoria said:
I have registered .xyz names where the dot info or net counterpart has sold in the mid to high xxxx, it would be crazy not to reg the .xyz of it if you see them. Yes, you cannot just blindly register names, he's right about that one.

But you gotta ask yourself, how many people really know .info exists? and that has 5 million regs, .xyz about half of that. I have seen .info's sell very well, and they still kind of do today, personally I think .xyz will surpass .info in the near future, and yes even surpass .net and .org (there I said it lol)

You cannot deny where .xyz is headed man, you could have maybe said last year that the extension was doomed, but from everything I have seen recently, from more members and investors putting their money in the pot, to these mass registrations, the future for .xyz is positive when you compare it to other new non .com extensions. I would think namepros would be thrilled with the opportunity here.

But it has been the opposite, I visit several domain news sites, and whenever there's an article saying anything positive about the extension or when it reaches a certain goal, you'll have the usual suspects laughing it off, calling it a waste of money, how negari should be in jail, etc. How it could never reach x amount of regs, but we are way beyond that now.

Ok, you talked about reg numbers, again. Let me ask you a few things.

Do sales matter to you as a domainer? Because I don't see you talking about that at all. How many people are talking about their actual sales in this thread? Where are all those posts at?

For everybody investing in these. How do you see this playing out.

Will it continue with $2 and under regs? It seems like the number of registrars with those prices, keep growing.

If not, do you think you'll see a reversal in reg numbers? If they go to more of a normal price and if the reg numbers start to go in the other direction. Will reg numbers still be as important to you as they are now?

hawkeye · Feb 15, 2016

phantasmagoria said:
whenever there's an article saying anything positive about the (any gTLD) extension, you'll have the usual suspects laughing it off, calling it a waste of money, how negari should be in jail, etc, etc.

LOL. Welcome to NamePros, home of the same old know-it-all 'caring' domainers who 'need' to constantly and consistently keep deriding any new extensions with their ..'just want to save/protect others from losing their monies', beratement justifications. ..que sera!

JB Lions · Feb 15, 2016

hawkeye said:
LOL. Welcome to NamePros, home of the same old know-it-all 'caring' domainers who 'need' to constantly and consistently keep deriding any new extensions with their ..'just want to save/protect others from losing their monies', beratement justifications. ..que sera!

Welcome to NP, where we talk about reg numbers like we're the registrar or registry. Share some of your .xyz sales. Instead of an emotional response, when people post some of that stuff, why not actually address it? Have a discussion about it. Quote something I posted, take it apart.

hawkeye · Feb 15, 2016

JB Lions said:
Share some of your .xyz sales.

Lou.xyz - $1888.

JB Lions · Feb 15, 2016

hawkeye said:
Lou.xyz - $1888.

Great sale, was that your only one? I think it helps if people share their actual sales, see where the market is. And if you want to discuss the other stuff posted. From what you posted, pointing out 13 registrars having them for under $2, you don't think that's relevant to the reg numbers? You think pointing out stuff like that is deriding? Or more the title of this thread, debate, discussion.

hawkeye · Feb 15, 2016

JB Lions said:
Great sale, was that your only one?

(wow a compliment! TY.) So far, but I haven't reached out to sell any others, and have turned down a couple low ballers.

Rick Ace · Feb 15, 2016

I don't see any reason to spread negativity in this thread. Ultimately, the goal of this thread is just to share facts and help each other out in the domaining market. Opinions are useful, but they have boundaries.

There's a lot of useful information in this thread. Let's not ruin the professionalism now.

RozasMD · Feb 15, 2016

Rick Ace said:
Are you saying the value of domains are based on their .com counterparts? While that's somewhat true, it doesn't come close to representing the entire domain market.

We need some reference to try to make our estimation of the potential of a name. A way to get somehow oriented.

I do take as a reference the performance of the name (or as similar as possible ones) in other extensions.

Well, it makes sense to me. Though we have to make our own corrections, obviously, and take them with a pinch of salt.

Would you use different methods?

Rick Ace · Feb 15, 2016

RozasMD said:
We need some reference to try to make our estimation of the potential of a name. A way to get somehow oriented.

I do take as a reference the performance of the name (or as similar as possible ones) in other extensions.

Well, it makes sense to me. Though we have to make our own corrections, obviously, and take them with a pinch of salt.

Would you use different methods?

I would use a variety of methods to predict the value of a domain. There are other ways to valuate a domain that's not a .com. You need to consider the target audience.

For example, cabi.net might have a different value than cabi.com . Both would have different audiences.

JB Lions · Feb 15, 2016

RozasMD said:
We need some reference to try to make our estimation of the potential of a name. A way to get somehow oriented.

I do take as a reference the performance of the name (or as similar as possible ones) in other extensions.

Well, it makes sense to me. Though we have to make our own corrections, obviously, and take them with a pinch of salt.

Would you use different methods?

Look at other .xyz sales. For example, Hawkeye posted lou.xyz $1,888, then look at other first name .xyz sales

Paul.xyz - $1,999
Colin.xyz - $309

try to find names in the same category, to get some sort of range. Of course it helps to have more data, which is hard with this extension.

Rick Ace · Feb 15, 2016

JB Lions said:
Look at other .xyz sales.

The problem with looking at sale trends before investing is that you'll miss out on a lot of upcoming trends. Sure, you can use it to make a safer investment. But at some point, you have to take a risk if you want to make a more profitable flip.

JB Lions · Feb 15, 2016

Rick Ace said:
The problem with looking at sale trends before investing is that you'll miss out on a lot of upcoming trends. Sure, you can use it to make a safer investment. But at some point, you have to take a risk if you want to make a more profitable flip.

It's best to look at sales in the same extension. What does this tell you:

shoes.xyz - 400 USD

shoes.no - 1,000 USD
shoes.me - 1,049 USD
shoes.info - 3,100 USD
shoes.mobi - 4,600 USD
shoes.tv - 18,000 USD
shoes.at - 2,953 USD

Upcoming trend, are you talking about all the Chinese stuff?

Rick Ace · Feb 15, 2016

JB Lions said:
It's best to look at sales in the same extension. What does this tell you:

If it's best to look at the same extension, why do you have to back up your claims with other extensions?

I think you're missing the point though. You can't calculate a solid value for a domain based on sales data alone. You need to make a prediction with all the available data you have.

JB Lions · Feb 15, 2016

Rick Ace said:
If it's best to look at the same extension, why do you have to back up your claims with other extensions?

I think you're missing the point though. You can't calculate a solid value for a domain based on sales data alone. You need to make a prediction with all the available data you have.

I'm not, I was showing you how the sales for the same keyword in other extensions are all over the board. I look at it as finding comparables and that's more to get you to some sort of range. Just an idea. It helps to have more data obviously, which is hard with this extension, since there haven't been a lot of sales. Like first names. Only can find 3 sales. If you had say 50 sales, you would get a better picture of the market of first name .xyzs

Lite · Feb 15, 2016

kerala said:
I am happy to inform you, I sold my 280+ numbers of NNN.xyz names and got good $.
I am more happy that, my buyers got good profit from the domains. (I made some $ from .mobi sales in 2006 but the buyers booked big loss!)

Now I own 4000+ .xyz domain names. Some of my .xyz names are:

mig,bba, ayurveda, workonline, fig, shower, route, glasgow, orlando, paper, divorce, manila, rooms, links, telephone, his, fog, lot, sailing, grade, honeymoon, badminton, alphabets, spyware, palace, dolls, canyon, pon, talent, master, reo, usedcar, arcade, new-york, merchant, bollywood, journal, fantasysports, rebate, chicken, voip, blogging, gospel, saltlakecity, retire, lincoln, pharma, wheat, christian, ent, alert, bills, mardigras, buyer, mlm, hospitals, manchester, freelancer, ecommerce, chapel, safari, broadcast, north, united, trend, drama, comedy, students, preshool, south, west, ali, horror, kim, juice, history, classified, hat, astrology, discovery, jungle, fashionshow, tomato, stories, emerald, scripts, orchids, pope, trinidad, miracle, fin, crew, hajj, vacationpakages, wig, skating, cosmetic, homecare, fantasybaseball, raffle, museum, factory, highway, hangout, signal, liberty, las-vegas, bandung, analysis, parachute, livescores, livestream, symphony, dam, fmcg, fair, convent, urdu, vacancy, hotelbooking, institution, proof, watermelon, capsule, fort, gown, toll, cancel, papaya, guava, mulberry, buycars, foreign, fabrics, sponsors, bungalow, souk, motoring, ambulance, blanket, dairy, belgrade, pretoria, ward, horror, sunglass, ....etc.

webquest said:
Kerala is a good example of someone who listened to info given on these types of forums and followed through. Sitting on gold.

You got some good ones Joy. Maybe we can meet up in Hawaii and chill together with our families. (This is Chad from gtld link)

kerala said:
Dear Sir,
Thanks for your kind words.
I initially thought, .xyz a bad tld and never registered any xyz domain names. But after reading your posts on your forum in Aug 2015, I tried to register some names. I found lot of names were expiring/deleting on 20th August and I worked hard to grab the deleted names. I slept only 1-2 hours for several weeks and could register 29% of total NNN.xyz names and lot of LLL.xyz, keyword domain names. Today also I registered .xyz names, eg, webserver.xyz, butler.xyz, showroom.xyz...

Sir, I will always thankful to you for your advise on domaining. I followed you regularly and found that, you registered several .ws NNNN names. So, I registered 100+ NNNN.WS domain names, also 600+ NNNN.PRO domain names..

regards,

Joy Antony
Kerala, India

Great job @kerala . People share ideas, talk trends and discuss sales on forums, but it was your experience and gut decision to grab those NNN and LLL. First you should thank yourself for taking that early bet. You will always find some generous and active members on forums. Its good karma to share about your sales, ideas and put your suggestions. Enjoy your winning.

RozasMD · Feb 15, 2016

JB Lions said:
Look at other .xyz sales. For example, Hawkeye posted lou.xyz $1,888, then look at other first name .xyz sales

Paul.xyz - $1,999
Colin.xyz - $309

try to find names in the same category, to get some sort of range. Of course it helps to have more data, which is hard with this extension.

Yes, that's why other extensions are my main reference. It's a new extension, so there's not really previous and similar sales to use as a reference.

I guess that's why we tend to look at .com, .net, .org...

Rick Ace · Feb 15, 2016

JB Lions said:
I'm not, I was showing you how the sales for the same keyword in other extensions are all over the board.

Well, that gives you an idea of how the extensions have matured... for the shoes/fashion niche, at least. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

JB Lions · Feb 15, 2016

Rick Ace said:
Well, that gives you an idea of how the extensions have matured... for the shoes/fashion niche, at least. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

It shows other extensions have sold better. Pick some of the .xyz sales, take the keyword, plug it in. Here's another:

dream.xyz - 522 USD

dream.cc - 2,483 USD
dream.pro - 5,000 USD
dream.org - 25,000 USD
dream.info - 3,160 USD

Just from what I looked at. Pick some other reported .xyz sales, are they better that others?

Rick Ace · Feb 15, 2016

That's true. .xyz is doing pretty well for a new TLD. Many of the other extensions had 10-20 years to gain enough traction to make those sales. .xyz is less than 2 years old entirely.

JB Lions · Feb 15, 2016

Rick Ace said:
That's true. .xyz is doing pretty well for a new TLD. Many of the other extensions had 10-20 years to gain enough traction to make those sales. .xyz is less than 2 years old entirely.

Do you want to look at the sales for other extensions in the first 2 years? Go look at .me and .co. Go look at .mobi and how many sales they had over $100,000, I see 11.

Rick Ace · Feb 15, 2016

JB Lions said:
Do you want to look at the sales for other extensions in the first 2 years? Go look at .me and .co. Go look at .mobi and how many sales they had over $100,000

And then look at .me and .mobi, right now? It does seem like .xyz is more sustainable than .mobi, which was a flop as of now.

ProDomains · Feb 15, 2016

Rick Ace said:
And then look at .me and .mobi, right now? It does seem like .xyz is more sustainable than .mobi, which was a flop as of now.

.club, as as of today, has more than .mobi and .xyz is going to soon pass .biz

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