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I made this thread to make people aware of what alias this stupid domain appraisal guy with no life is using.

I received a few emails from this guy over the last few months. He is starting to really piss me off! Stupid Scammer, Listen!

OK, the email and name he used to message me as of 12/03/2012 is:

David Lemmer

NHP Solutions

administration@net-hosting-solutions


Please follow this link and report this guy https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/Abuse/SpamReport.aspx?
If you receive these emails, please post to this thread with the fake name he use and the email he use. This is to help people from getting scammed.

If you get an email from this guy please send to the spam folder and report abuse with your email provider. Thanks.
 
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He must be working for go-appraiser.com
He is directing everyone to buy appraisal certificates.

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Is go-appraiser.com a legit site?
 
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Add Isaac Tuchman, CEO of Web Hosting Solutions, Inc to the list!!

Didn't see this thread, I actually just posted the same stuff in the other thread that is old. I found these threads through google, anyhow...

I basically just had the same exact email sent to me as well, asking for an appraisal, yadda yadda. Instead of a blog, he linked me to a ridiculous "archived forum" that he tried to disguise as part of sevenforum.com His fake forum address is seven-forums.net.

Also, he tries to get you to get an appraisal from his company go-appraiser.com His name is Isaac Tuchman.

Supposedly the CEO of Web Hosting Solutions, Inc.

LOL, f'n ridiculous.

Be aware everyone!

Here was his first email to me...almost spot on to everyone elses' mail message.

Hello!

I'm very interested in purchasing fantasycheat.com.

I found this domain listed for sale on Sedo.

Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject (in USD, Euros or UK pounds).

If you have other names for sale please email me your domain list with prices.

Regards,

Isaac Tuchman

CEO

Web Hosting Solutions Inc.

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CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.
 
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Lol its david tuchman in mine lemme copy n post it , thanks u all for saving me :)

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Hello!

I'm very interested in purchasing soniyo.com.

I found this domain listed for sale on Sedo.

Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject (in USD, Euros or UK pounds).

If you have other names for sale please email me your domain list with prices.

Regards,

David Tuchman

CEO

Web Hosting Solutions Inc.

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CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.
and second he knows about his scams online and asks me if im in any of hosting forums etc :)

I offer 7000 usd. What are your payment details?

Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably we know each
other under some nicknames?

Best regards,

Ph. D. Tuchman

CEO
hope it helps others , im sad again but happy in a way :( , this mail had made me happy initially , but thats k its life :(
 
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And another name.......


"to avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

Please read this information:
(edit: uses seven forums link)

If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.


Best regards,

J Justman

CEO"
Justman justman-at-lowcost-hosting.

Has anyone told GoDaddy? The two comdomains he used and promoted:
go-appraiser.
lowcost-hosting.


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I received two of these appraisal scam e-mails today. One is from David Bortman CEO of Low Cost Hosting Solutions, and the other name he is using is David Rotman CEO of Effective Web Hosting Solutions Inc. :lol:
 
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I also received an email from this guy, now his name is Adam Sorensen:

that guy offered me a nice price, but after that he sent me the next message:

Before we proceed further let me ask you for one thing:

First of all we both need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this verification.

Please note we need a good in depth analysis made by experts but not an automated free service. Without it we both can't be sure in the price.

It will include the trademark verification as well. Just a formality to be sure you have no problems with trademarks. Good companies offers this as a part of appraisal.

To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

Please read this information:
http://www.seven-forums.net/Archive/27450681.htm

If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.


Best regards,

Adam Sorensen

CEO
 
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Todays name is david jacobsen


Hello!

I'm very interested in purchasing xxxxxxx.com.

I found it listed for sale.

Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

Regards,

David Jacobson

CEO

VIP Hosting Solutions Swiss
 
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Hi all,

This guy has now shape-shifted in to Mark Zusman!

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Hello!

I'm very interested in purchasing xxxxxxx.com.

I found it listed for sale.

Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

Regards,

Mark Zusman

Vice President

Best Web Hosting Net-Host

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CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.
 
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They sure have a lot of CEO's.

Hello!

I'm very interested in purchasing 3dfone.com.

I found it listed for sale.

Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

Regards,

Aaron Anderson

CEO

I've asked for 10000 bitcoins..
 
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I really should read more but being new to domains and websites etc I'm a genuine "rookie".

I got the email from
Aaron Anderson
CEO
Live Host Solutions

Basically the same as the above

However I went and got the appraisal from icaan and the valuation surpised me, it was more than I was expecting
So as long as icaan valuations are genuine and not another scam he has actually done me a favour
because I am selling my two sites and now have a proper valuation.

Lewis
 
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You've been screwed. File a charge back now.
Appraisals are pointless anyway, domains don't sell because they have nice appraisals.
They sell because somebody wants them and will pay. Domains that nobody wants have no market value.
 
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Another one:


From: [email protected]
To: ######@#######.com
Subject: ########.com
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:21:47 -0700

Hello!

I'm very interested in purchasing ########.com.

I found it listed for sale.

Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

Regards,

David Berman

CEO

Live Host Services

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CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.[/I]
 
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Not going to lie.. I had a bit of fun with this one... (read from top to bottom)

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Paul,

I may offer up to 7500 usd for this domain but the final price will depend on official appraisal results. I have 75,000 usd budget for 10-12 domains.

How can I pay you (PayPal, Western Union, escrow.com etc.)? If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.

Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?


Best regards,
David Berman
CEO
_________________________________________________

Ok, feel free to have the domain appraised, and let me know the final results.

Payment should be escrow.com, to ensure that we're both covered.

Regards,

Paul

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Before we go further I will ask about two small things:

1. We both need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this verification.

2. I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. You should not worry about it. Some good appraisers include this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

Please read this information:
http://www.seven-forums.biz/Archive/61894705320.htm

The process is very easy:

1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.
Best regards,
David Berman
CEO
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I'm quite busy. Why don't you go ahead and have the domain appraised, and deduct the cost of the appraisal from the amount you are going to pay for the domain?

_________________________________________________

I cannot afford to pay for each and every appraisal. I buy 30-40 domains
every month. If I don't buy you still can use the appraisal to sell to other
buyers. But what will I do with the appraisal if you decide to sell to
another buyer? Please try to understand me.

Best regards,
David Berman
CEO
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Please understand this:

I've been in this game way too long to fall for your appraisal scam. I've fully aware of all of the different alias names you use. This is well documented on namepros, and several other online forums.

Want to keep playing?
 
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Nearly fell for it!

Same guy.
I may offer up to 5000 usd for this domain but the final price will depend on official appraisal results. I have 75,000 usd budget for 10-12 domains. I'm also interested in
ProFootballLessons.com
SimplyQatar.com
SingaporeJobs.com
MySingapore.com
SingaporeClubNights.com
Vehicles4Rent.com


How can I pay you (PayPal, Western Union, escrow.com etc.)? If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.

Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?

Best regards,
David Berman
CEO
 
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zusman@net​-host.org ([email protected]) 3/25/2013


Hello!

I'm very interested in purchasing fitnessstuttgart.com.

I found it listed for sale.

Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

Regards,

Mark Zusman

Vice President

Best Web Hosting Net-Host
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Before we go further I will ask about two small things:

1. We both need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this verification.

2. I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. You should not worry about it. Some good appraisers include this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

Please read this information:
http://www.seven-forums.biz/Archive/49672583108.htm

The process is very easy:

1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.
Best regards,
Mark Zusman
Vice President

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If someone can tell me what to write in that GoDaddy report or has a template for those scamers I would appriciate. I want to report him but do not want to waste my time on this.
 
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I got a new name ..But same scam.

It has been so long since I got one .. It almost fooled me until He sent the request for appraisal..

came from - liberman(at)live-host.org

Isaac Liberman

CEO

Live Web Hosting Clue Services

I have no doubt he is on this forum.
He asked - "Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?"
 
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just happened to me today.... the same guy... with me his name is "Isaac Roitman"... you can read my story here

thank you for posting this!
 
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He or someone like him is still at again. I just got one of these messages...Probably the same lame guy, new name....same codewords....'sedo' saying I know you through 'nicknames' 'appraisal' fake forum page, with link for appraisal.

He also asks for list of your domains with prices....Before he knows your price, he will probably ask you to tell him how much you want for it.

I will be posting specifics on this guy soon...once I know more....Until than, be careful not to get scammed.

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Got this one today:


Before we proceed may l ask for one thing?

First of all, we need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale and based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this valuation.

I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won't be a problem for you since some good appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

Please read this information:
http: // www .seven-forums. biz /Archive / 49672583108 .htm

The process is very easy:

1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.




Best regards,

Jacob Friedman

CEO
 
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Live Hosting Services LLC appraisal scam

I was contacted by Joshua Friedman, Initially I thought wicked I’ll sell the domains. After an e-mail exchange he asked me to get the domains appraised. I did think to myself this looks doggy, but then clicked on the links he sent me and did the paypal payment for the appraisal.

Then thank god PayPal would not process the payment as they deemed it to be a scam.

Then I found this forum and sent the scammer Joshua Friedman an e-mail with my findings and a link to this site.

Guess what, no reply from him.



Hello!

I'm interested in buying xxxxxxxxxxx.com.

I've found it through Sedo.

Please respond with how much you are looking for it. Just specify this price in the subject line.

If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

Regards,

Joshua Friedman

CEO

Live Hosting Services LLC

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Ok. Great! Before we proceed may l ask for one thing?

First of all, we need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale and based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this valuation.

I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won't be a problem for you since some good appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

Please read this information:
seven-forums.biz/Archive/49672583108.htm

The process is very easy:

1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.
 
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Thanks!

Just wanted to register and thank the OP and everyone in this thread for your contributions. I was contacted a couple days ago and my research led me here.

Here are the emails I've received and I reported them at godaddy as well.
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Hello!

I'm interested in buying domain_removed

I've found it through Sedo.

Please respond with how much you are looking for it. Just specify this price in the subject line.

If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

Regards,

Abram Weinstein, Ph.D.

Best Web Hosting Services

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CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.

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Before we go further we need the following:

Please send me an official appraisal (certificate of price).

Please don't worry, it will take only 2 minutes to order it. I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won't be a problem for you since some good appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

Without it we cannot be 100% sure in the final sale price. The appraisal will help determine the true value of your domain's worth so you can maximize profits during the sale. On the other hand, it will minimize my risks too.

To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless automated services I asked in the forum about reliable manual valuation/TM verification services. Please read this:
cnet-forum[dot]biz/Archive/1639250875.htm <-- I adjusted since I cannot post links as a new member. The site doesn't appear to be malicious, just a stupid way to make it look like his scam is valid.

The process is very easy:

1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

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Basically, it leads back to iccan.info, a domain that was registered in Feb of this year.

Thanks again to all who shared their experiences and helped people save some $$
 
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I got this email in May, didn't fall for it...

[email protected]

May 15

to me
Hello!

I'm interested in buying **name removed**com.

I've found it through Sedo.

Please respond with how much you are looking for it. Just specify this price in the subject line.

If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

Regards,

Adam Baumgartner

CEO

Live Hosting Services LLC

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CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I may offer up to 500 usd but the final offer will be based on a professional valuation. I have 4500 usd budget for 12-15 domain names.

How can I pay you (PayPal, Western Union, escrow.com etc.)? If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.

Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?

Best regards,

Adam Baumgartner


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Before we proceed let me ask for one little thing:

First of all, we need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale and based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this valuation.

I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won't be a problem for you since some good appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

Please read this information:
http://www.seven-forums.biz/Archive/38561472097.htm

The process is very easy:

1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.


Best regards,
Adam Baumgartner
CEO
 
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I got a similar dialogue from someone using the following info (he switched it up throughout the convo). It seemed spammy/scammy, but I figured my email is public so I had nothing to lose by hearing what he had to say.

First, he offered me $7k over what I asked for, saying he wanted a bigger commission from his client. I told him to buy it from me for $2k and sell it to his client for $9k.

Secondly, he told me that "the industry practice" is to provide appraisals and trademark info. I told him he was mistaken and that I have been in the business for well over a decade. As the buyer he was free to do whatever due diligence he wanted. (His reply was to make sure I didn't miss out on a deal).

Here is his contact info (as if all of the different contact info wasn't a red flag):

[email protected]
Victor Couwenberg
Director Of Investor Relations
Bern
Langmauerweg 27
Phone: 031 311 45 63

[email protected]
J. Bernthal
Investor Relations
Lausanne
Sue du Simplon 38
Phone: 21 311 52 39

The Google searches turned up nothing for any of his contacts. He's not even smart enough to create a fake online persona.

I compared his email to the last email I got from a lawyer looking to buy one of my legal domains. He had a full email signature with all of his contact info... image that!

If it sounds like a scam, it probably is.

And as the captain used to say on Hill Street Blues... HEY.... be careful out there!
 
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this came in the mail today:

Hello!

I represent a big investor from Switzerland who wants to purchase your xxxxxxxx.com.

Please specify your asking price in the subject of your message.

My client has $614,000 budget for 50-60 domain names. He is also interested in purchasing gambling, accounting, insurance and adult names.

I'd also like to know your preffered payment method : Paypal, Bitcoin, Escrow etc.. If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.

Are you a member of domain name groups or societies?

Best regards,

Jacob Bernthal

Investor Relations

Lausanne
Sue du Simplon 38
Phone: 21 311 52 39

btw the domain he is "interested" was sold on ebay for 3 bucks last week!
 
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Hi guys...
Can't believe these are still going...

Can we add Joshua Goldstein ,Vice President to the list of scammers?
His client had an apparent $470,000 to invest in domains but didn't have the common sense or knowledge to value what he was buying himself....
Have to wonder how he managed to get that money in the first place - or even get dressed in the mornings....anyway told him very politely to 'go away'....:)
 
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Scam alert

Recently got emails from a man named Michael Wasserman claiming that he is the Vice President of Investor Relations for "vpspace.com"

After doing some research its another appraisal scam. Glad I did that research.

Our email conversations lead to this and I immediately know it was a scam:

Ok. Great! Before we send you the money my investor needs only one thing from you:

As you may know all major domain brokers does not allow listing above $1000 or higher if you don't have an official appraisal. Since the sale price is not low in our case, my client needs an official certificate of price (appraisal). He also needs to know you have no trademark problems. It won't be a problem since I know an official appraiser that offers this option (trademark infringement verification) for free as a part of the appraisal service.

I'm also interested in a good valuation and a high sale price because my client pays me a commission (10-15% of the sale price) on every domain purchase. So I'm not interested in low sales too. I will suggest you an appraiser who can give you a good value. Unfortunately, without the appraisal my client won't proceed.

Of course, you should not use a free automated service like Estibot or similar services. My client does not accept them. I was working for Estibot and knew they were using automated scripts for free appraisals. In our case we need a real manual valuation.

To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless automated services I asked in Google Answers about reliable manual valuation/TM verification services. Please read this:

The process is very easy:

1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. Submit your domains to them and let them know you have a buyer with $X,XXX offer so you need the appraisal near this value. After several hours you will get the results.

2. Then send these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal. You can increase the final price by $500 to cover your time and money expenses.

If you are new to the appraisal process I can help you with step by step instructions.

Best regards,

Michael Wasserman

Vice President Investor Relations

Cloud Hosting Portal

Switzerland
Basel
Centralbahnstrasse 39
Phone: 061 206 09 52
 
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