New Top Level Domains!

It's all about the .com .co.uk .net .org .de .tv
Yay! More hopeless domain extensions. Seems strange to release so many at one time.

Useless. the new TLD is very rarely to become success.

Might be useful to some websites tho. Depending on its use.

Hey, if you're into such investments I 'might' get a contract from some govt. to mine for gold in that country, want to buy some shares in this new company I 'might' form?

All those 1000s of pre-registrations are a farce, we'll have a whole slew of people coming in and complaining about how the got 'scammed' when they don't get the pre-regs.

But then, a fool and his money are soon parted.

Who are these guys?

Are they even ICANN accredited?

Seems like a real risk registering domains with a new registrar, managing new gTLD's

I don't like them at all.

Good or Bad: New TLDs (.sfo, .berlin, .nyc, .web, .eco, .shop, .gay, .xxx, .hotel)

Hey Guys, I just received the Sedo June newsletter stating that:

"In 2012 the next stage in the Internet's revolution begins with the arrival of new top level domains (TLDs) such as .sfo, .berlin, .nyc, .web, .eco, .shop, .gay, .xxx, .hotel, .film, .radio, .green, .site, .sport and .music..."

This could have really serious consequences for us domainers, I would love to hear your views on that.. Will it improve or decrease the value of .com, .net, .org and .info ?

Is is the death or the rebirth of domaining?

Cheers ! :wave:

Karim

bad news for suckers, who will loose lots of dough regging keywords in dumb-arse extensions that will never sell.

i can see it now...

hey guys, please appraise "realestate.film", it has 30,000 exact match results

It's a good opportunity for newbies to lose money.

sedo sent me an email about this today

Also watch out for mismanagement of these extensions (similar to .jobs, the registry got into trouble by setting up rules that were essentially monopolistic)

Basically I see this reducing the price of some expensive .coms because instead of buying candy.com for much, much less you can create and manage .candy or similar.

Other than that it is an invite to losing money and almost worse, losing developed sites, links and PR when marginal registries go bust. But apparently they are supposed to guarantee the domains will operate for three years.

I like .xxx reserved a few just because. The adult industry is huge and I think they will make it work. as to the others, only time will tell, most will probably fail.

.xxx is the only one that feels natural as buy to me.

.web? Hell, people can barely handle .info and .net when you throw those at them.

I've watched many design clients opt for a giant, ugly, clunky .com instead of looking at a cleaner .net that better suited their keywords.

All these new TLDs will be good news to authentic end-users who cannot get good keyword domains for their business, because the com/net/org versions are all held hostage for ransom by domainers.

As long as Google keeps humming its broomstick sweeping poor quality websites down the search results, domains that are more valuble to readers (in theory) should rise on top of search rankings no matter what the extension. The important thing is, you got a keyword domain that is easy for your customers to remember.

Of course, this goes along the presumption that people nowadays type the keywords into the Google search form field... instead of explicity typing something like candy.shop.

In practice, however, any new TLDs are always snapped up by domainers. End-users always show up late. lol

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Has Google even stated how they intend to treat the domains?

alien51 said:

All these new TLDs will be good news to authentic end-users who cannot get good keyword domains for their business, because the com/net/org versions are all held hostage for ransom by domainers.

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Well, I think there are already plenty of alternatives on the market today. But it's problematic to build a 'serious' business on an oddball extension.

alien51 said:

The important thing is, you got a keyword domain that is easy for your customers to remember.

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The problem is not the keyword, it's remembering the extension. That's why a .net might lose 1% of type-in traffic to the .com

alien51 said:

In practice, however, any new TLDs are always snapped up by domainers. End-users always show up late. lol

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Either they missed the show, or they were not aware. Or they were simply not interested.
Domainers are early adopters of new extensions because they anticipate end user interest that will never materialize... at least not the point where we see a market developing :talk:

It is relativly old news as you can see in my signiture. Yes sedo send everibody email few days back.. When all good ones was already taken.. Some might be of some value,but who knows...

SDX said:

Hi guys,

Just wanted to get your feedback on these new gTLD's:
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uniteddomains.com/ntld/pre-register-new-domains/
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Anyone pre-registering them yet?
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It seems like ICANN will completely change the rules of domains in 2012 to a point that what comes before the dot will be much less important than what comes AFTER the dot!

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mrjohn said:

Has Google even stated how they intend to treat the domains?

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I don't know if they had it on paper that you get +10 points for having a com extension.

But since Google is always preaching about putting up "quality content" first and foremost, i cannot find any good-natured logic why Google will punish domains with weird extensions evenif they carry quality content.

So that should sum up that domain extensions "should" be irrelevant in ranking your site in search results.

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sdsinc said:

Well, I think there are already plenty of alternatives on the market today.

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Alternatives, yes. Just a complete waste that you could not use a nice keyword domain for the benefit of mankind, simply because it is parked with a huge price tag.

sdsinc said:

But it's problematic to build a 'serious' business on an oddball extension. The problem is not the keyword, it's remembering the extension. That's why a .net might lose 1% of type-in traffic to the .com

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That's the whole point of flooding the internet with truckloads of extensions of all kinds: To reboot people's minds that domain extensions should be irrelevant.

Imagine for just one minute, a world where you have:

rubbershoes.com
rubbershoes.net
rubbershoes.web
rubbershoes.shop
rubbershoes.apparel
ruubershoes.sports

You don't have to remember what domain extension it is. All you need to do is type "rubber shoes" on Google, and let the website owners battle it out mano-y-mano on search rankings. The guy that shows on top, say "rubbershoes.apparel" will get the first click from readers and gets the customers.

sdsinc said:

Either they missed the show, or they were not aware. Or they were simply not interested.

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Or simply because they spend much of their time running their real 'brick-and-mortar' business and didn't have any IT guy to look out for domains.

Domainers get the extensions first, because that's all they do. That's what they exist to do: Snap the domains before anyone else does.

Personally I like the idea of .web. I can think of a few domains I'd like to register under that TLD.

To add to what alien51 is saying it all comes down to the type of site you have and the type of traffic you get. Content based sites like blogs and forums get most of their traffic from the search engines so extension doesn't matter as much. For ecommerce sites that will be promoted offline a lot you have to have a dot com or a CCTLD like .co.uk.

the only domain name i would be interested in, is : NewTLDs.gay
(no offence to gays though, just....you know...)

hqdomains said:

the only domain name i would be interested in, is : Newtlds.gay
(no offence to gays though, just....you know...)

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:hehe:

This isn't as true as it might seem. Sure, many likely would. But let's add a little to your theoretical situation. Assuming the domains you mentioned: If the #1 result was rubbershoes.apparel & #2 was rubbershoes.com, the #2 would most likely get the click despite not being #1. Why is that? Because .com is well-established while .apparel is the new kid that no one knows. And it'd likely be used by so little websites that it might appear foreign to ppl. Opposed to visiting a site with a weird extension that the user had never heard of, they'd visit the site with the tried & true .com. Other than that, repeat visitors might not come at all since the odd extensions ould likely be used so little that their under-exposure likely will leave them in the basement & ppl who visit rubbershoes.apparel would most likely type in rubbershoesapparel.com in their browser. One would be foolish to even OWN one of these extensions. They'll more than likely be bought by domainers--mostly noobs--who'll put extremely ridiculous price-tags on 'em and won't ever become a truly 'used' domain. They'll fall from grace like a fallen angel. Or a .mobi.

alien51 said:

Imagine for just one minute, a world where you have:

rubbershoes.com
rubbershoes.net
rubbershoes.web
rubbershoes.shop
rubbershoes.apparel
ruubershoes.sports

You don't have to remember what domain extension it is. All you need to do is type "rubber shoes" on Google, and let the website owners battle it out mano-y-mano on search rankings. The guy that shows on top, say "rubbershoes.apparel" will get the first click from readers and gets the customers.

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I think I just set a record for the most uses of 'likely' in a post lol

LOL, well I honestly don't blame them. Its practically impossible to find a good .com domain nowadays. Its like every single order of the alphabet has been taken by someone :P.