Sedo.com - Official Thread

'Looking forward to Sedo being fully professional by giving this matter their full attention, and sharing with us one of their renowned 'detailed assessments' on the situation '

Don't hold your breath on this one. It will most likely be dealt with in private, but you could keep us posted if you wish. Please be careful to read ALL the info in their emails. (privacy issues).

Sedo said:

Please PM me with the domain involved and your Sedo account information and I will have the Director of Brokerage follow up with you as soon as possible so that any necessary action can be taken.

Stephanie

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I noticed my salient points about the selection process for featured auctions have been glossed over as if they didn't matter. Well they do matter. This issue aggravates a lot of people, and Sedo would be wise to address it. Soon.

exsedo said:

'Looking forward to Sedo being fully professional by giving this matter their full attention, and sharing with us one of their renowned 'detailed assessments' on the situation '

Don't hold your breath on this one. It will most likely be dealt with in private, but you could keep us posted if you wish. Please be careful to read ALL the info in their emails. (privacy issues).

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Heh, I'm not the guy who posted that blog entry, but that doesn't detract from the seriousness of the situation. Everybody who uses Sedo deserves an explanation for what happened. What do you think the odds of us getting one are..? Lol.

Is it just me, or did all your new features break the optimization control panel? Many things in my account aren't working anymore.

The category selection tool is not working at all for me. I find the category, click on it, but it doesn't leave the speech bubble. Is there also going to be a SHORT category with CCC, CC, LLL, L-L-L, etc as options? I am sure that most domainers would really appreciate such categories.

Hi,
how can one apply for upcoming vegas/gambling auction?

BTW, I like the new category tree, esp. adult section. And everything works fine for now.

MattheP said:

Hi,
how can one apply for upcoming vegas/gambling auction?

BTW, I like the new category tree, esp. adult section. And everything works fine for now.

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Same here!

:lala:

MattheP said:

Hi,
how can one apply for upcoming vegas/gambling auction?

BTW, I like the new category tree, esp. adult section. And everything works fine for now.

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Hi,

We are currently not scheduling an auction around this theme. Sedo has monthly promotions that revolve around themes. We do a lot of marketing and promotion for the theme's special landing page each month. The names have to be premium, and if you are interested, you can discuss it with your SedoPro Account Manager, or apply in the seller side brokerage tool for a broker to consider the domains for quality. If the quality is good, the broker will call and discuss options for selling, one of which may be getting on the monthly theme list.

Stephanie
Sedo.com

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Sedo.com/china is now online with the best Chinese related domain names. This is not an auction, but another great place to find Chinese-themed domains! Did you know that the ".cn" domain extension has the highest cc-tld registration numbers, even more than ".de"?

Stephanie
Sedo.com

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cmason said:

The category selection tool is not working at all for me. I find the category, click on it, but it doesn't leave the speech bubble. Is there also going to be a SHORT category with CCC, CC, LLL, L-L-L, etc as options? I am sure that most domainers would really appreciate such categories.

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Hi,

Let me know the problem/error you are experiencing, and the browser you are using so I can make sure any bugs can be fixed asap. Also, at this time we have the Miscellaneous > Non-dictionary words category. I will also make sure that your feedback is sent to the appropriate developers.

Stephanie
Sedo.com

Dongsman said:

Would like to know how Ames did.

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looks like it ended @ $98 USD
Bidding History*-*Sedo.com
You search for ended auctions via google
Ex. site:sedo.com ames.us
usually shows up the first result

Sedo questions

Hey everyone.

I have some questions about sedo auctions.

1. Can you put a minimum/starting bid on a domain?
2. If not, can you decline a bid?
3. If someone is the highest bidder, is he comitted to buying the domain? Or can (s)he just cancel the bid?

Thank you.

Radiator said:

I noticed my salient points about the selection process for featured auctions have been glossed over as if they didn't matter. Well they do matter. This issue aggravates a lot of people, and Sedo would be wise to address it. Soon.



Heh, I'm not the guy who posted that blog entry, but that doesn't detract from the seriousness of the situation. Everybody who uses Sedo deserves an explanation for what happened. What do you think the odds of us getting one are..? Lol.

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Remote at best. How easy do you think it would be for Sedo to push certain domains to prominence? Maybe if you had one of these SedoPro accounts, or if you spend a lot of money on services, you may get preferential treatment ? Would certainly explain how these absolute garbage domains make it to elevated status. As in the onemansblog example, things dont seem to be run above board at Sedo, and with this example, we dont know how long this practice has been going on. Its not hard to get very rich when you take money and dont give the service you charge for.

1. Can you put a minimum/starting bid on a domain? Yes
2. If not, can you decline a bid? Yes
3. If someone is the highest bidder, is he comitted to buying the domain? Or can (s)he just cancel the bid? Yes

skincareproducts.us 2,500 $US 1 5d 22h 30m

Looks like an end-user bid.

Fake traffic?

I thought I would have a browse over at sedo and see how much traffic their featured listings were getting.So I had a look at dark//pearls dot com
I noticed it had an incredible 9263 traffic!
When I checked google adwords tool only 260 exact!

Is their not some rule about fake stats and promoting parked pages?

exsedo said:

Remote at best. How easy do you think it would be for Sedo to push certain domains to prominence? Maybe if you had one of these SedoPro accounts, or if you spend a lot of money on services, you may get preferential treatment ? Would certainly explain how these absolute garbage domains make it to elevated status. As in the onemansblog example, things dont seem to be run above board at Sedo, and with this example, we dont know how long this practice has been going on. Its not hard to get very rich when you take money and dont give the service you charge for.

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Something is definitely skewed and that's for sure. If you could take the explicit language, you might've seen that those guys in the Brit forum I linked to had much better quality names chucked right back at them, than the majority of what was actually taken. As was borne out by the complete lack of action on more than half the list, and of the remainder, only a handful did significantly more than scrape a few lowball bids.

Let's have a little look at just one domain Sedo had up for an excited public...HARDS.FR, and see how it fares against their own professed high quality control standards...

* The domain is short, a real word and is easy to remember - FAIL

[Qualified with it admittedly being short, but only easy to remember because it's so awful.]


* It is a generic domain, e.g. like car.com, creditcard.com or books.com - FAIL

[It's a generic word to two people - the person who submitted it, and the Sedo rep who approved it. Perhaps a third - maybe some guy in the middle ages who originally coined the word, but was laughed at by dictionary compilers.]


* The domain is easy to spell and not prone to typographical errors - PASS

[But pfft, who'd WANT to spell it..?]


* The domain is product-related and therefore has a high commercial value - FAIL

[The domain is cr@p-related and therefore has a minus commercial value]


* The domain doesn’t violate any third party rights (e.g. trademark rights) - PASS

[Because who in their right mind would've TM'd it?]


* The TLD geographically matches the language of the domain name - FAIL

[The word doesn't match ANY tld yet invented, at least not on this planet :lol:]


* The reserve price for the domain is reasonable - FAIL

[Reg fee would be more than a reasonable figure for this]

Bushidoho said:

Hey everyone.

I have some questions about sedo auctions.

1. Can you put a minimum/starting bid on a domain?
2. If not, can you decline a bid?
3. If someone is the highest bidder, is he comitted to buying the domain? Or can (s)he just cancel the bid?

Thank you.

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Hi,

1. Can you put a minimum/starting bid on a domain?

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There are three types of amounts that can be used to indicate the pricing of a domain through Sedo's marketplace: a Price, a Minimum Offer, and/or a Reserve Price. Reserve Prices are only applicable for domains being auctioned.

Price

Depending on the listing type, a Price is a non-binding amount that indicates what a seller expects for the sale of a domain. For domains listed as "Make Offer," the Price serves as an invitation for buyers to places offers, and is not binding for a seller. For domains listed as "Fixed Price," the Price is the only amount that needs to be entered; any buyer who clicks the "Buy Now" button on the offer page will be bound to purchase the domain for that amount.

Sellers cannot price a domain above 10,000 USD unless they first order a Sedo Domain Appraisal for the domain. Our Customer Care staff can manually change the price at the seller's request once the appraisal has been completed. This limit also applies to Minimum Offers.

The Price entered for a domain will appear on the offer page as either "Seller's price expectation" or "Sales Price," depending on the listing type.

Minimum Offer

A Minimum Offer is a price threshold that must be met for a seller to receive offers; it indicates that a seller will not sell the domain for less than that amount. A minimum offer disables offers below a certain amount and can be used even if a Price has not been entered. If the "Fixed Price" option has been selected, however, entering a Minimum Offer is not possible.

A Minimum Offer is not displayed on the domain's offer page unless a buyer places an offer below the set amount.

Reserve Price

A Reserve Price is the lowest amount at which a seller is willing to sell a domain through an auction. A seller may suggest a Reserve Price when applying for one of Sedo's Premium/Themed Auction Events. The amount of the Reserve Price is not disclosed to bidders, but they will see that an auction has a Reserve Price and whether or not the reserve has been met. If bidding does not meet the Reserve Price, the seller is not obligated to sell the domain.

Only domains that are accepted for a Premium/Themed Auction Event are eligible for a preselected Reserve Price.

Important: Entering a Minimum Offer is not the same as entering a Reserve Price for an auction. Any changes made through My Sedo > Domain Management will not affect an Auction Event application for the domain.

2. If not, can you decline a bid?

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If the domain name is listed as “Make Offer,” the following options are available to the Seller when ANY offer is made:

Accept the Offer

If the Seller accepts an offer, an agreement will be reached and the transfer process will begin.

Place a Counter-Offer

If the Seller places a counter-offer, the buyer will receive an email notification. The buyer will then be able to log into their Sedo account to respond by accepting or placing a new counter-offer.

Matching a previous offer or counter-offer does not lead to a sales agreement. Either party will have to use the “accept” option, when available, to finalize the agreement.

Start an Auction

When a seller receives an offer on a domain, he/she is able to start an auction within five (5) days. If the seller chooses this option, the buyer's original offer will serve as the reserve price. Therefore, the seller accepts the bid unless a bid for a higher amount is made by the end of the auction. The auction end time is scheduled for seven (7) days following the placement of the buyer's original offer.

If a domain name is listed on our marketplace as “Fixed Price” (or “Buy Now” on the Offer page), an agreement is reached upon accepting the amount that the domain name is listed for.

Sedo asks sellers to honor price expectations they have listed; however, they may still negotiate upwards for domains listed as “Make Offer.”

3. If someone is the highest bidder, is he committed to buying the domain? Or can (s)he just cancel the bid?

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In a public auction, the highest bidder is obligated to purchase the domain at the final bid price. If the buyer does not follow through with their obligations in the domain transaction, their Sedo account will be closed.

Stephanie
Sedo.com

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shane mac said:

I thought I would have a browse over at sedo and see how much traffic their featured listings were getting.So I had a look at dark//pearls dot com
I noticed it had an incredible 9263 traffic!
When I checked google adwords tool only 260 exact!

Is their not some rule about fake stats and promoting parked pages?

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Hello,

The domain in question is not parked with us. It is listed in our marketplace as a complete website. The stats provided are the stats to the website for the website listing.

Stephanie
Sedo.com

The automated Price Suggestion Tool, anyone been able to use it ?
I tried it multiple times, even at offpeak times, all I get is 27min wait, 74min wait, 47 min wait,
If the requests are queued, how can it jump from 27 min wait to 74 min wait.
Is it a working tool or just a means to keep traffic on the site ?

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Someone is up early at sedo :lol: My waiting time just jumped to 5010 minutes :lol:

Yes, i've received two suggestions, all the others are into the 5000 minutes range.



It's a crosspost, related to the August GreatDomains auction thread in the Domain Name Discussion section, but i see this is, maybe, the best thread where to talk about that.


Look at the August Great Domains results:

EG.domains said:

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reserve met
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xp.com $99,000
bestprices.com $81,000
sued.com $25,003
dxb.com $22,500
bfc.com $18,400
travelguide.net $10,100
15.net $9,999
bellyrings.com $8,899
2t.net $6,600
musicbase.com $5,600
nxm.com $4,100
zwm.com $3,600
sneakpeek.com $3,500
0a.net $2,450
982.net $1,705 (1,052 GBP)
jiny.com $1,280
ahh.net $1,179 (826 EUR)
object.net $1,160
lining.net $859
desires.net $724
sieve.net $559
ambience.net $510
vgx.net $510
khz.net $452
xhn.net $440
collectable.net $436
declined.net $121
usercontent.com $110
selfproduced.com $100
consumercontent.com $80
floorwax.net $70
irishriverdance.com $70
userpublished.com $70

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ay.com $48,000
ballot.com $9,999
gels.com $9,500
highways.com $5,000
znm.com $4,600
kxr.com 4,538 (2,800 GBP)
oyy.com $3,740 (2,308 GBP)
xoz.com $3,484 (2,150 GBP)
janet.net $1,442 (1,011 EUR)
fastinternet.com $1,200
pals.net $1,100
pollen.net $1,000
clerk.net $650
flemish.com $500
joaquim.com $500
xny.net $399
hairelastics.com $250
exfoliatingmasks.com $249
verruca.net $80
kebob.net (no bids)

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I don't want to start a dispute or be hypercritic, but ...

I would like to meet who decide what domain is good for GreatDomains auction and what not.

I see domains like.. declined.net (with very little commercial value) or floorwax.net, irishriverdance.com, userpublished.com, kebob.net .......

I've submitted even this month some domains with higher commercial value (not in my opinion, i mean REALLY higher, i think it's easy to have better domains), or for example much higher searches volume, i've seen rejected even a domain that has received several mid-high $xxx offers in the past.

If you have an electronic product domain name .net with 1,900,000 monthly search volume (exact phrase, assume it is like photo / camera / net ) and you apply for a greatdomains listing setting a $3,500 bin and a $500 reserve offer and you see it rejected because does not meet quality criteria... what would you think when you see kebob.net accepted and then considered better?

However, every month there are excellent domains too, like bestprices.com, definitely a bargain for the buyer, or sued.com, bargain for the seller imho.

With the price suggestion tool, you have to expect it to be overwhelmed as I'm sure everybody sent all of their domains in aroudn the same time. once the initial crush is passed, I'm sure the process will be smoother.

As for the selection of domain names for these auctions, there is definitely no rhyme or reason to it. The Adult auction was a debacle with some of the names that were approved. I have one premium .net that was light years better than all but 2 of theirs and it got declined. I didn't even put a reserve on it.

Sedo Issue, Never Contacted Domain Owner

I wanted to buy a domain, and when I looked up the "whois" info, it was obviously just a bunch of bogus info. A "555" phone number, the address was a prison, and the name was also fake, etc. Seeing that I wouldn't be able to contact this individual, I thought Sedo might have more advanced tools at their disposal to locate the owner, so I agreed to their brokerage service. After several weeks, my broker said the domain owner had not given them a response.

I then asked if they could give me the contact info they were able to get for the domain, and it was the same bogus "whois" data. So basically, no one was ever really contacted about buying this domain. I feel I should be given a refund, since their was never any real brokerage taking place. It would be the equivalent of me dialing a random number, and then charging a customer saying, "The person said no."

Who should I contact about getting a refund. I reasonably explained my position to my broker, but he has simply ignored my requests. I really feel ripped off. I would have no problem with the fee if they actually were able to contact the owner of the domain, but if the domain owner was impossible to contact, Sedo shouldn't take money for a brokerage service.

One thing you can do is to report the domain name for invalid whois
ICANN | Whois Data Problem Report
The registrar will prompt the owner to make corrections as necessary.

john_eldorado said:

I wanted to buy a domain, and when I looked up the "whois" info, it was obviously just a bunch of bogus info. A "555" phone number, the address was a prison, and the name was also fake, etc. Seeing that I wouldn't be able to contact this individual, I thought Sedo might have more advanced tools at their disposal to locate the owner, so I agreed to their brokerage service. After several weeks, my broker said the domain owner had not given them a response.

I then asked if they could give me the contact info they were able to get for the domain, and it was the same bogus "whois" data. So basically, no one was ever really contacted about buying this domain. I feel I should be given a refund, since their was never any real brokerage taking place. It would be the equivalent of me dialing a random number, and then charging a customer saying, "The person said no."

Who should I contact about getting a refund. I reasonably explained my position to my broker, but he has simply ignored my requests. I really feel ripped off. I would have no problem with the fee if they actually were able to contact the owner of the domain, but if the domain owner was impossible to contact, Sedo shouldn't take money for a brokerage service.

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Hi,

I apologize you received unsatisfactory service with your brokerage order. Please contact [email protected] regarding this issue. If you still do not receive a response, you can PM me with the information regarding this order and I will bring to the attention of the Director of Brokerage.

Stephanie

matrigaldo said:

Look at the August Great Domains results:

I would like to meet who decide what domain is good for GreatDomains auction and what not.

I see domains like.. declined.net (with very little commercial value) or floorwax.net, irishriverdance.com, userpublished.com, kebob.net ....

declined.net $121
usercontent.com $110
selfproduced.com $100
consumercontent.com $80
floorwax.net $70
irishriverdance.com $70
userpublished.com $70

hairelastics.com $250
exfoliatingmasks.com $249
verruca.net $80
kebob.net (no bids)

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Kebob.net (no bids)... :lol:

You forgot the awe-inspiring 'jeudoccasion.com' (also no bids)...

If that wasn't comical enough, wait til you see the bevy of beauties lined up for this month's pageant of the peculiar...

ifeed.com
auswertungen.com
icolleague.com
abkommen.net
americanteams.com
appeloffre.com
barbra.org [typo!!]
bauta.com
benfeld.com
brail.net [another typo!!]
bumpy.net
calimete.com [ultra obscure geo]
dom-tom.fr [wth???!! _\|/_ ROFL]
longueau.com
lagnieu.com
lump.net
mornas.com
orts.info [lol, I've discussed this God-offal domain elsewhere on the forum... ]
o4.net
parados.es
paramedicale.fr
pizzacrust.net
mornas.com
newhomebuys.com
teamsusa.com
speechmark.co.uk
propertiesspain.co.uk

A big chunk of those will not get bids, and at least 50% will certainly not break $400.

I'll stake ACCELERATED.MOBI on that result. Anyone care for a lil gamble? Show me what ya got

stingrae said:

As for the selection of domain names for these auctions, there is definitely no rhyme or reason to it. The Adult auction was a debacle with some of the names that were approved.

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I'll hazard a guess you won't be betting 8^X

john_eldorado said:

I wanted to buy a domain, and when I looked up the "whois" info, it was obviously just a bunch of bogus info. A "555" phone number, the address was a prison...

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A prison?? Ahahaha, I wonder if...No, I'll bite my tongue on that one :lol:

Shame it was this episode that led you to making your first post on NP...

Radiator said:

dom-tom.fr [wth???!! _\|/_ ROFL]

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Overseas departments and territories of France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :talk:

sdsinc said:

Overseas departments and territories of France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :talk:

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Ah, now the mist clears! Thanks for the pointer. I should've been more thorough, and looked that one up; but in the context of the other oddities on display, didn't bother!

Still don't think it'll do any decent biz tho - the bet offer still stands :wave:

My Sedo Partner referral stats:

Visitors: 376
Accounts: 1
Parking: $0.00

That's an extremely low conversion rate. My visitors are from links on my sites - mostly for Sedo parking and some for Sedo appraisals.

Anybody doing better with commissions for Sedo services?