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Heading Off-Road with mobi
mobi may very well be on life support with domainers, so I understand the question....this is a domainer forum, after all. Can't say the word dead, as there is continuing adoption that keeps creeping around. The recent re-buyout of LLL mobis was not done by endusers.
It's funny to see that the majority of domainers still compare this unique TLD to all of the others out there. This really still seems to be the biggest hurdle in this community mobi can't seem to jump over.
The truth is, you can't compare mobi to any other TLD, simply because there are no other TLD's like it. The only other "different" TLD introduced has been .tel, and that’s “it’s own” as well. No real relationship to “standard” TLD's or mobi. It seems to be on it’s own little island, so that’s where we’ll keep it for this discussion.
.com, .net, .org, .info, .co.uk, .de, .gov,.in, .co.in, .cn, .cc, or any of the other CC's or TLD's all have one huge thing in common. They're all designed to be viewed on a PC screen.
My apologies to anyone who has made this analogy prior. I wasn’t around for the early years, so I might have missed it. It just seems to fit so I’ll throw it out to those newer who may be dismayed.
Let's think of these extensions as standard cars. Some of these cars are equivalent to new, high end models, while others are cheaper knock offs or even "used" quality. All of the above mentioned TLD's (cars) are using roads and interstates that have already been built and are well known to the public. It wasn’t always this way, but it has been for years now. .Com (and .net, & .org) paved these roads long ago for all other TLD’s to drive on. There are maps available to those who need them (SE’s) and retail stores at every exit or town (monetization methods). Everything is great as long as you stay on the road.
Now, let’s talk about off-road. Sure, some standard cars have been driven off road, but often get bogged down or stuck in the mud. They can be retro-fitted with lift kits, bigger tires, larger engines, etc. but that takes more funds and extra time / effort to make your vehicle have access to all locations.
Now, along comes this new, off-road vehicle (.mobi), specifically designed to go anywhere. No modifications required. No questions asked. You look at it’s unique design and you know it’s ready to roll off-road. This all wheel drive vehicle only has boundaries in regards to gas stations (Cell towers). Just by looking at it’s nameplate, you know it can travel the already established roads, as well as the off-road circuit.
The biggest obstacle you’ll notice for this new vehicle is the lack of support once you venture off the main road. Not much in the way of population yet, very few “stores” (sites) or people in general. But that is changing. Driving off-road in a vehicle designed for such use is becoming much more popular as people recognize the benefits of using such a vehicle.
Pretty much up to the early enthusiasts who enjoy this new-found freedom to blaze their own trail. Often starting as nothing, a dirt path starts to form. These paths often lead to gravel, then pavement. They have to build their own “stores” in more remote areas, as well as map out the locations for future adventurist’s to follow. Although they do have the advantage of using the already build roads / highways, that’s not their bread and butter. This specialty vehicle will work very well on these roads, but it excels where the “standard” vehicle can’t. Off-road. As the public becomes aware of these off-road paths, they’ll start to utilize them. The downside at this stage is, they’re toll roads (carrier fee’s). You have to pay for this new found freedom. The more people who use these paths, the cheaper the toll will get. At first, they won’t get much. Still a lot of “bad lands” of barren property to go through. But development is going full throttle. New stores are sprouting up and maps are starting to be plotted.
All awhile, the people rolling down the interstates in their Cadillac’s and Mercedes laugh at and scoff the off-roaders, wondering aloud why these people feel a “need” for alternate routes when there are perfectly good routes already established from point A to point B? Just stay on the road and you’ll be fine. Little do they recognize how many actually enjoy driving off-road. The freedom it brings is becoming more popular. Once they get off-road and leave the road restrictions behind, they often have a whole new sense of adventure. Now, things they only had access to while on the road are available off-road as well. Some old timers will retro-fit their vehicles to come along. But these vehicles won’t be easy to identify. They might make it or they might not. It’s driver beware.
Just looking at a .mobi, you’ll know it will work, no questions asked. Yes, it’s still a vehicle, but one designed for a specific purpose.
The entire concept was and still is pretty simple, really. Yet few can see any benefit. DotMobi will continue to be a failure in domainers eyes for quite awhile yet. It simply doesn’t fit the typical domainer model. End users still continue to adopt though, despite what domainers think. Paths are being built. These paths are getting more traffic every month. These paths will soon turn into roads of varying degrees of popularity. In time, there will be few, if any boundaries.
Bottom line is, .mobi has a use. At this still early stage, this use is not favorable to domainers. I can understand the distaste that mobi gives to a typical domainer. Parking is negligible and for the time being, reseller prices are way down as well. Can this change? Sure it can. When might this change happen? Who knows? Might be next month, next year or 5 years down the road. Public awareness is still miniscule. Time and adoption will change this as well. Like everything else, it’s supply and demand. Until the tides turn, I’ll continue to build my stores off-road for the future adventurers who come to visit.
Owning a portfolio of .mobi names means you have two options. Register, park and cross your fingers... renew, park, cross your fingers....rinse and repeat....OR - start developing and adding to the underdeveloped mobile web while enjoying increased traffic and monitization possabilities. I can attest to the fact that both work as described. My "parked" names don't come close to paying for themselves. My developed names certainly cover their own with change to spare.
(sorry for the long winded post. I was on a roll)
mobi may very well be on life support with domainers, so I understand the question....this is a domainer forum, after all. Can't say the word dead, as there is continuing adoption that keeps creeping around. The recent re-buyout of LLL mobis was not done by endusers.
It's funny to see that the majority of domainers still compare this unique TLD to all of the others out there. This really still seems to be the biggest hurdle in this community mobi can't seem to jump over.
The truth is, you can't compare mobi to any other TLD, simply because there are no other TLD's like it. The only other "different" TLD introduced has been .tel, and that’s “it’s own” as well. No real relationship to “standard” TLD's or mobi. It seems to be on it’s own little island, so that’s where we’ll keep it for this discussion.
.com, .net, .org, .info, .co.uk, .de, .gov,.in, .co.in, .cn, .cc, or any of the other CC's or TLD's all have one huge thing in common. They're all designed to be viewed on a PC screen.
My apologies to anyone who has made this analogy prior. I wasn’t around for the early years, so I might have missed it. It just seems to fit so I’ll throw it out to those newer who may be dismayed.
Let's think of these extensions as standard cars. Some of these cars are equivalent to new, high end models, while others are cheaper knock offs or even "used" quality. All of the above mentioned TLD's (cars) are using roads and interstates that have already been built and are well known to the public. It wasn’t always this way, but it has been for years now. .Com (and .net, & .org) paved these roads long ago for all other TLD’s to drive on. There are maps available to those who need them (SE’s) and retail stores at every exit or town (monetization methods). Everything is great as long as you stay on the road.
Now, let’s talk about off-road. Sure, some standard cars have been driven off road, but often get bogged down or stuck in the mud. They can be retro-fitted with lift kits, bigger tires, larger engines, etc. but that takes more funds and extra time / effort to make your vehicle have access to all locations.
Now, along comes this new, off-road vehicle (.mobi), specifically designed to go anywhere. No modifications required. No questions asked. You look at it’s unique design and you know it’s ready to roll off-road. This all wheel drive vehicle only has boundaries in regards to gas stations (Cell towers). Just by looking at it’s nameplate, you know it can travel the already established roads, as well as the off-road circuit.
The biggest obstacle you’ll notice for this new vehicle is the lack of support once you venture off the main road. Not much in the way of population yet, very few “stores” (sites) or people in general. But that is changing. Driving off-road in a vehicle designed for such use is becoming much more popular as people recognize the benefits of using such a vehicle.
Pretty much up to the early enthusiasts who enjoy this new-found freedom to blaze their own trail. Often starting as nothing, a dirt path starts to form. These paths often lead to gravel, then pavement. They have to build their own “stores” in more remote areas, as well as map out the locations for future adventurist’s to follow. Although they do have the advantage of using the already build roads / highways, that’s not their bread and butter. This specialty vehicle will work very well on these roads, but it excels where the “standard” vehicle can’t. Off-road. As the public becomes aware of these off-road paths, they’ll start to utilize them. The downside at this stage is, they’re toll roads (carrier fee’s). You have to pay for this new found freedom. The more people who use these paths, the cheaper the toll will get. At first, they won’t get much. Still a lot of “bad lands” of barren property to go through. But development is going full throttle. New stores are sprouting up and maps are starting to be plotted.
All awhile, the people rolling down the interstates in their Cadillac’s and Mercedes laugh at and scoff the off-roaders, wondering aloud why these people feel a “need” for alternate routes when there are perfectly good routes already established from point A to point B? Just stay on the road and you’ll be fine. Little do they recognize how many actually enjoy driving off-road. The freedom it brings is becoming more popular. Once they get off-road and leave the road restrictions behind, they often have a whole new sense of adventure. Now, things they only had access to while on the road are available off-road as well. Some old timers will retro-fit their vehicles to come along. But these vehicles won’t be easy to identify. They might make it or they might not. It’s driver beware.
Just looking at a .mobi, you’ll know it will work, no questions asked. Yes, it’s still a vehicle, but one designed for a specific purpose.
The entire concept was and still is pretty simple, really. Yet few can see any benefit. DotMobi will continue to be a failure in domainers eyes for quite awhile yet. It simply doesn’t fit the typical domainer model. End users still continue to adopt though, despite what domainers think. Paths are being built. These paths are getting more traffic every month. These paths will soon turn into roads of varying degrees of popularity. In time, there will be few, if any boundaries.
Bottom line is, .mobi has a use. At this still early stage, this use is not favorable to domainers. I can understand the distaste that mobi gives to a typical domainer. Parking is negligible and for the time being, reseller prices are way down as well. Can this change? Sure it can. When might this change happen? Who knows? Might be next month, next year or 5 years down the road. Public awareness is still miniscule. Time and adoption will change this as well. Like everything else, it’s supply and demand. Until the tides turn, I’ll continue to build my stores off-road for the future adventurers who come to visit.
Owning a portfolio of .mobi names means you have two options. Register, park and cross your fingers... renew, park, cross your fingers....rinse and repeat....OR - start developing and adding to the underdeveloped mobile web while enjoying increased traffic and monitization possabilities. I can attest to the fact that both work as described. My "parked" names don't come close to paying for themselves. My developed names certainly cover their own with change to spare.
(sorry for the long winded post. I was on a roll)
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mobi may very well be on life support with domainers, so I understand the question....this is a domainer forum, after all. Can't say the word dead, as there is continuing adoption that keeps creeping around. The recent re-buyout of LLL mobis was not done by endusers.
It's funny to see that the majority of domainers still compare this unique TLD to all of the others out there. This really still seems to be the biggest hurdle in this community mobi can't seem to jump over.
The truth is, you can't compare mobi to any other TLD, simply because there are no other TLD's like it. The only other "different" TLD introduced has been .tel, and that’s “it’s own” as well. No real relationship to “standard” TLD's or mobi. It seems to be on it’s own little island, so that’s where we’ll keep it for this discussion.
.com, .net, .org, .info, .co.uk, .de, .gov,.in, .co.in, .cn, .cc, or any of the other CC's or TLD's all have one huge thing in common. They're all designed to be viewed on a PC screen.
My apologies to anyone who has made this analogy prior. I wasn’t around for the early years, so I might have missed it. It just seems to fit so I’ll throw it out to those newer who may be dismayed.
Let's think of these extensions as standard cars. Some of these cars are equivalent to new, high end models, while others are cheaper knock offs or even "used" quality. All of the above mentioned TLD's (cars) are using roads and interstates that have already been built and are well known to the public. It wasn’t always this way, but it has been for years now. .Com (and .net, & .org) paved these roads long ago for all other TLD’s to drive on. There are maps available to those who need them (SE’s) and retail stores at every exit or town (monetization methods). Everything is great as long as you stay on the road.
Now, let’s talk about off-road. Sure, some standard cars have been driven off road, but often get bogged down or stuck in the mud. They can be retro-fitted with lift kits, bigger tires, larger engines, etc. but that takes more funds and extra time / effort to make your vehicle have access to all locations.
Now, along comes this new, off-road vehicle (.mobi), specifically designed to go anywhere. No modifications required. No questions asked. You look at it’s unique design and you know it’s ready to roll off-road. This all wheel drive vehicle only has boundaries in regards to gas stations (Cell towers). Just by looking at it’s nameplate, you know it can travel the already established roads, as well as the off-road circuit.
The biggest obstacle you’ll notice for this new vehicle is the lack of support once you venture off the main road. Not much in the way of population yet, very few “stores” (sites) or people in general. But that is changing. Driving off-road in a vehicle designed for such use is becoming much more popular as people recognize the benefits of using such a vehicle.
Pretty much up to the early enthusiasts who enjoy this new-found freedom to blaze their own trail. Often starting as nothing, a dirt path starts to form. These paths often lead to gravel, then pavement. They have to build their own “stores” in more remote areas, as well as map out the locations for future adventurist’s to follow. Although they do have the advantage of using the already build roads / highways, that’s not their bread and butter. This specialty vehicle will work very well on these roads, but it excels where the “standard” vehicle can’t. Off-road. As the public becomes aware of these off-road paths, they’ll start to utilize them. The downside at this stage is, they’re toll roads (carrier fee’s). You have to pay for this new found freedom. The more people who use these paths, the cheaper the toll will get. At first, they won’t get much. Still a lot of “bad lands” of barren property to go through. But development is going full throttle. New stores are sprouting up and maps are starting to be plotted.
All awhile, the people rolling down the interstates in their Cadillac’s and Mercedes laugh at and scoff the off-roaders, wondering aloud why these people feel a “need” for alternate routes when there are perfectly good routes already established from point A to point B? Just stay on the road and you’ll be fine. Little do they recognize how many actually enjoy driving off-road. The freedom it brings is becoming more popular. Once they get off-road and leave the road restrictions behind, they often have a whole new sense of adventure. Now, things they only had access to while on the road are available off-road as well. Some old timers will retro-fit their vehicles to come along. But these vehicles won’t be easy to identify. They might make it or they might not. It’s driver beware.
Just looking at a .mobi, you’ll know it will work, no questions asked. Yes, it’s still a vehicle, but one designed for a specific purpose.
The entire concept was and still is pretty simple, really. Yet few can see any benefit. DotMobi will continue to be a failure in domainers eyes for quite awhile yet. It simply doesn’t fit the typical domainer model. End users still continue to adopt though, despite what domainers think. Paths are being built. These paths are getting more traffic every month. These paths will soon turn into roads of varying degrees of popularity. In time, there will be few, if any boundaries.
Bottom line is, .mobi has a use. At this still early stage, this use is not favorable to domainers. I can understand the distaste that mobi gives to a typical domainer. Parking is negligible and for the time being, reseller prices are way down as well. Can this change? Sure it can. When might this change happen? Who knows? Might be next month, next year or 5 years down the road. Public awareness is still miniscule. Time and adoption will change this as well. Like everything else, it’s supply and demand. Until the tides turn, I’ll continue to build my stores off-road for the future adventurers who come to visit.
Owning a portfolio of .mobi names means you have two options. Register, park and cross your fingers... renew, park, cross your fingers....rinse and repeat....OR - start developing and adding to the underdeveloped mobile web while enjoying increased traffic and monitization possabilities. I can attest to the fact that both work as described. My "parked" names don't come close to paying for themselves. My developed names certainly cover their own with change to spare.
(sorry for the long winded post. I was on a roll)
Very nice analogy! I couldn't agree more. Rep+
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What is the obsession with sex.mobi?
Dotmobi is an extension for 'marketing' it will succeed because it is targetting new business as well as old (note: new business not having the benefit of an uber cool dotcom domain name)
Sex is massive on the web... but only massive for the manufacturers of kleenex and for the sellers of paid for content.
Porn does not benefit society, porn is at worst a depressing reflection on society and although very popular it is not what Sir Tim Burners Lee envisaged when he invented the internet.
If we can strip away the comments made by easily led, spotty teenagers and scared portfolio owners whose very own lifeblood, already stifled by the rapid growth in domain numbers and a massive fall in parking revenues, we are left with a group of unbiased, openminded people... of those, many who show an interest in domains will be doing so for business reasons.
You don't have to look far to find newly developed corporate dotmobi sites, they are published daily - by household names.
Dotcom is a global TLD... quality will trounce the competition. Dotcom is dead where it comes down to the poor quality domains in circulation, most dotcoms are, by default, so unbelievably poor that they almost beggar belief but let's stick with quality domains.
Brands are developing a dotcom and / or their native country code domains.
Brands are not adding alternative content to .net / .org / .info / .biz etc.. where they own these extensions it is either because the dotcom wasn't available or they are defensive regs used primarily as re-directs.
With one exception; dotmobi
Big Brand Names are rolling out made for mobile content; using m. /mobile & .mobi As a rule, they are making use of all 3. In the very same way they have .org .net .info .biz to catch stray traffic, the mobile content is also accessible via multiple channels.
Anyone who keeps an eye on dotmobis progress will be aware of the launch of dotmobi in China... the extension remains in English as ".mobi" but now the Chinese can register Chinese language domains in their own 'alphabet' as it were.
The growth of dotmobi / mobile internet is not in question. The reasoning behind it is simple; it is another route to customers... however large a role the mobile internet plays in the future remains to be seen but it is here to stay.
Domainers don't know how to play this market yet... the rules aren't the same! There are no viable parking programmes for dotmobi (but... what revenues are other extensions earning from parking these days?)
Domainers can't flip them so easily because many don't understand them fully... even the 'experts' are still unsure about it.
This forum is doing itself a great disservice, over the last 3 years the forum has, for reasons best known to it's senior management, suppressed 'pro' dotmobi members and censored many threads after trolling by naysayers has started slanging matches resulting in both the poor & less poor posts being removed and in many cases members being banned.
Who does this serve best? I would argue; nobody..
There is growing support from end users for dotmobi.
The market for mobile ONLY internet is 3x that of the web as we know it... globally speaking, most internet users have access to small screen devices only (literally.. no pc access at all!)
Clearly this will not concern us 'westerners' with our houses, our 2 cars and several pc's / laptops and smart phones.. but if you look at the foothold that dotmobi has in South Africa for example it would be chirlish in the extreme to deny that dotmobi has a future. It was no mistake that dotmobi was released with Global Coverage, backed by global players..
Forget what you know about domaining, forget about the world being so US-centric... indeed even the UK is going to face some serious challenges if it is to avoid becoming a 2nd rate business entity.
Argentina was once richer than the UK.... it lost everything because of a similar financial crisis that the US & Europe are facing... unmanagable levels of debt...
So welcome to the new world... where most internet users will access the web from their phones.
All domains have potential, but this is not a 5 minute "back of a postcard" conclusion.... dotcom will remain the number 1 TLD... But only quality will add value.
Country codes are the Number 2... values will depend on the country; the .de & .co.uk markets are strong but others are fast groing.
dotmobi is almost certain to become number 3 because all companies that have a turnover of more than a few tens of $'s per annum will want a web presence that covers mobile - even if they use m. /mobile they will desire the dotmobi if only for brand protection.
Those same companies will desire the dotcom and the countrycodes of those countries that they trade in.
.tv / .travel / .biz and a whole raft of other extensions that exist now or will in the future are highly speculative; they do not fit 90% of businesses around the world - although .biz does have the strongest case as it is very non-specific. However, history shows that .biz is not a strong extension - it is more for stamp-collecting domainers to add to their collections.
The naysayers can of course come up with the same tired old reasons that dotmobi will fail but luckily for those who back the extension, a few hundred domainers will not influence the end-user market. mtld is a powerful marketing machine and has made great inroads into China and Europe.
I will try to post useful information about dotmobi, I do not intend to post regularly but I do encourage those who believe in the future of mobile internet - with it's data restrictions and SMALL screen, to continue to post on NP mobi section and simply ignore the trolls who just want to wind you up.
It's a losing battle they are fighting, we know that so let's leave them to it...
I do note from an earlier post that the dotmobi section is the 4th most popular section with the 3rd highest 'response' rate.... that tells me that dotmobi is not dead... (But it seems that many here wish it so? - one does have to ask why?)
Toodle pip!
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News:
mtld will be releasing a number of IDN.mobi over the next few months. These will allow non-Roman alphabet users to register .mobi's in their own language and script
The Chinese deal has been signed with Trey Harvin attending a major event at CATR - the China Academy of Telecommunication Research earlier this week.
The population of China is?
The number of annual University graduates in China is?
The market for mobile internet in China is?
The national debt of China is?
The national debt of the US is?
The average age in China is?
The average age in the US is?
These are seriously interesting questions...... they really would benefit from a nice graph...
Can you blame mtld for putting so much effort into relations with a country that over 99% of us 'out west' (including myself) have never been to?
toodle pip
mtld will be releasing a number of IDN.mobi over the next few months. These will allow non-Roman alphabet users to register .mobi's in their own language and script
The Chinese deal has been signed with Trey Harvin attending a major event at CATR - the China Academy of Telecommunication Research earlier this week.
The population of China is?
The number of annual University graduates in China is?
The market for mobile internet in China is?
The national debt of China is?
The national debt of the US is?
The average age in China is?
The average age in the US is?
These are seriously interesting questions...... they really would benefit from a nice graph...
Can you blame mtld for putting so much effort into relations with a country that over 99% of us 'out west' (including myself) have never been to?
toodle pip
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