Warning > DMG.com: Snapnames Auction

Federer · Dec 17, 2008

If you are participating in the above auction, I would strongly advice you to stop bidding immediately. I have inside information on a legal entity who will be snatching this domain from the winning bidder. They represent DMG Vertriebs Und Service GmbH, DMG Europe Holding GmbH and DMG Gildemeister.

DMG Gildmeister is the worldwide owner of the trademark DMG including all common law rights and the German and U.S. trademark registrations.

PM or email me for further information.

1901gt · Dec 17, 2008

If they have the trademark, then why didn't they get the domain earlier?

Charley · Dec 17, 2008

Federer said:
I have inside information on a legal entity who will be snatching this domain from the winning bidder.

Any source ?

Federer said:
PM or email me for further information.

Why wouldn't this be disclosed to the public. I think that's the way to go.

Pred · Dec 17, 2008

Federer said:
If you are participating in the above auction, I would strongly advice you to stop bidding immediately. I have inside information on a legal entity who will be snatching this domain from the winning bidder. They represent DMG Vertriebs Und Service GmbH, DMG Europe Holding GmbH and DMG Gildemeister.

DMG Gildmeister is the worldwide owner of the trademark DMG including all common law rights and the German and U.S. trademark registrations.

PM or email me for further information.

did you know about their intentions as you approached them about them buying before winning the name, thus alerting them?

i ask, as i know you have made sales before lining up a buyer before winning a drop. its cool to do, but can go wrong, if thats what happened here

btw, unless snap bottle it, it would have to go to wipo and if you have a business model and plan for the name and dont park, and wipo play fair, which they do sometimes, sometimes not, then you 'should' win

however appreciate heads up as most wont want hassle

Charley · Dec 17, 2008

Pred said:
did you know about their intentions as you approached them about them buying before winning the name, thus alerting them?

Yea, I'd like to hear out this as well.

Federer · Dec 17, 2008

Ok, for those who are interested in the legal document I have, send me an email to [email protected] and you can make you own mind up as to weather you would like to continue bidding - I'll email you the letter.

I am in the auction and will no longer be bidding. I have also informed the current leading bidder (a friend of mine) and he will not be purchasing the domain either.

Yes, you can take the 'risk' and snap up this domain. But seeing as I had received this information from the company who will be filing the complaint, just thought it would be useful and correct to share with you guys.

Charley · Dec 17, 2008

Federer said:
I'll email you the letter.

Can you copy & paste the letter here ?

Federer · Dec 17, 2008

Shoot me an email and you'll get the document within 1 minute.

Embrand · Dec 17, 2008

Thanks for the warning.

What about bae.com, which may be a NJ soon. Current owner giant British Aerospace, which is now BAE Systems at baesystems.com. Would you guys dare bid on this one or too risky?

wussadotcom · Dec 17, 2008

Why did they give you the letter. I mean the one @ company who wants to file the dispute.

Federer · Dec 17, 2008

Their lawyers sent me the letter as a clear warning. They believed that I owned the domain name.

It was a misunderstanding. I had simply approached them to see if there would be any interest for DMG as, at the first drop auction, I was extremely close to becoming the new owner. For some reason, the winning bidder didn't end up paying the funds (this leads me to believe that maybe he too was contacted upon the closing of the auction).

DomainTalker · Dec 17, 2008

Appreciate the heads up, Fed...

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wussadotcom · Dec 17, 2008

Federer said:
Their lawyers sent me the letter as a clear warning. They believed that I owned the domain name.

It was a misunderstanding. I had simply approached them to see if there would be any interest for DMG as, at the first drop auction, I was extremely close to becoming the new owner. For some reason, the winning bidder didn't end up paying the funds (this leads me to believe that maybe he too was contacted upon the closing of the auction).

scary :ghost: ~ though you can easily see that if its true the comp is trying to interfere with the auction they are trying to make people feel afraid to bid plus with you spreading it all around (no hard feelings :D )
Its not easy to take someone domains away, not a simple process. It would be easier for them to bid it but with a low amount.
So,I know its a small change for you federer compared to your US open winnings, if you would be willing to go and bid and win this domain then it will open people's eyes about us :kickass:
:bingo:

1901gt · Dec 17, 2008

I still believe they don't deserve to get the domain.

Federer · Dec 17, 2008

We all agree with you there.

gingeman · Dec 17, 2008

Just because they intend to make a claim on the domain does not mean they will win, there are many factors which must be satisfied for this to happen. Seeing as they have the opportunity like everyone else to aquire this name through the auction (they are clearlyaware of it) I would have thought that could be used as evidence of reverse-hijacking anyhow...
but thanks for the heads up Fed, its good to look out for each other.

Charley · Dec 17, 2008

TheLegendaryJP said:
Im sorry but what lead them to believe it was you who owned the domain was in actuality you pretending to own something you did not. What you did do was either enforce or directly cause a company ( drop auction ) to lose funds and potentially a winning bidder to lose a name. I have seen this BS in the past. It is a disgusting practice and attempted by those who do not have the funds to participate in a proper manner and common decency.

Yea I support you here. I knew this was the case from his first post in the thread. I persuaded him to post the facts here to so that everyone can see, it's just not genuine. And he didn't.

TheLegendaryJP said:
I hope the drop auction see's your post, bans your account and sues you. What you did was WRONG! Be ashamed of yourself and lucky you havent been banned here for screwing with members money and drop company profits, add to that you are clearly someone without common sense based solely on the fact you admit this shameful act openly.

Yes, you're totally RIGHT

TheLegendaryJP said:
Youre scum.

Spade · Dec 17, 2008

Am I the only one who questions the legal right of this company to assume ownership of a LLL.com ?

Frankly, I can think of several potential acronyms and just a quick check on Google shows several companies and institutions that use DMG in their business name. Unless you were planning on infringing on someones Mark - why would you fear purchasing this domain name?

bmugford · Dec 17, 2008

They can file a dispute if they want, anyone can. However it takes a lot more than just filing a dispute to get the domain. They have no legal right unless they can show TM infringement and bad faith.

-REECE- · Dec 17, 2008

I think it would be a pretty easy to prove bad faith if Federer were to win it..

bmugford said:
They can file a dispute if they want, anyone can. However it takes a lot more than just filing a dispute to get the domain. They have no legal right unless they can show TM infringement and bad faith.

Kenny · Dec 17, 2008

Moved to W&A

Spade · Dec 17, 2008

-REECE- said:
I think it would be a pretty easy to prove bad faith if Federer were to win it..

Bingo. I think the problem is exactly as pointed out earlier. There was bad faith, but only on the part of Federer to "presell" this domain name. However, I do have a feeling that he stuck his hand in a hornets nest, and regardless of who wins, will be in store for a headache.

Pred · Dec 17, 2008

you may be needing this guys :blink:

Federer · Dec 17, 2008

I should have just kept low profile until landing the domain, set up a generic static page & made a list of TM DMG Owners NOT to contact.
I am one of the newest domainers on the block with TONS of learning to do and mistakes NOT to make. This one (...) will not be made again.

d0main · Dec 17, 2008

Biggs (DNF) aka Federer (NP),

With all due respect you have done this type of thing before - just two months ago.

You had agreed to sell an LLL.com to me ~ you then came back and said you weren't able to follow through.

Your exact words: "Sorry, I have received a MASSIVE offer this morning (end user 3-domain package deal"

So, this is not an isolated incident. You were shopping the name while negotiating with me. If they bite you sell to them, if they don't then I'm stuck buying a compromised name because you've notified all possible TM holders already that it is being sold.

I put you on my 'do not buy from' list at the time but should have done the stewardly thing and called you out ~ just isn't my style. Take all those profits you are boasting and peddle yourself somewhere else.

Someone isn't too happy with federer...

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