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WARNING: How to Avoid Domain Scams and Scammers

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Prevention:

Google the domain (also try adding words like stolen, scammed, help, missing, etc), asking other domainers about the domain in question, checking the various marketplaces and making sure things add up... The biggest single indicator of a potential scam is the price. A scammer will want to price the domain low enough that it sells before he gets caught. Keep a watchful eye on new members. Recently modified whois is another warning sign. If other indicators are present (ex. extremely low price), proceed with extreme caution.

Some known scams:

1. Appraisal Scam -- If they ask for an appraisal, it's probably a scam.

2. Snail mail scam letters -- Letters through the mail reminding you to renew your domains from companies which aren't your current registrar

3. Compromised web-based email accounts and keyloggers -- Using an email provided to you by your Internet Service Provider is generally safer than web-based email solutions. There have been known security flaws in certain webmail applications in the past (ex. Gmail) which made compromising member accounts considerably easier than guessing a password. Understand the risks involved with using a web-based solution. Download spyware software such as Adaware Lavasoft and scan your computer daily. Keyloggers are A) easy to put on someone's computer and B) potentially catastrophic to a web based business.

4. Unauthorizing funds (particularly bad with Paypal). Paypal makes it very easy to create chargebacks. Don't accept large amounts by Paypal unless you're dealing with people you absolutely trust. Moneybookers/Escow.com are a step above Paypal, however the best option would be to go with a true escrow service such as Sedo Escrow, Moniker Domain Escrow Service or EscrowDNS.

5. Emails saying your domain requires renew/transfer/you to take a certain action. Check the email and make sure that A) it's from your registrar and B) the url mentioned matches what your registrar's would be. Safer to just visit the registrar than click the links in the email.

6. Incorrect Whois emails -- if your whois isn't incorrect, beware. Phone your registrar if you think they made a mistake.

7. Traffic/Click Fraud -- Self explanatory. If it isn't direct navigation it shouldn't be sold as such. Due diligence is required here.

8. Hijacking -- If you use one of your own domain names as the nameserver, be sure to make sure it doesn't expire or someone could fraudulently gain control of your domains.

9. Escrow.com is NOT 100% safe. They do not cover stolen domains -- buyer beware. Don't think processing a "bargain" through Escrow.com won't potentially end in you being out money. In the event a domain is stolen from someone's account, the domain WILL be returned to the original owner and you'll be out whatever you paid for the domain.

10. One thing I should add: Most free webmail providers will delete accounts after certain periods of inactivity. A clever scammer could notice that your Hotmail/Yahoo/other webmail account had expired, register that same email address (which is now available) and then proceed to "Request Password" at various registrars using what was previously your email address. If you plan on using your webmail infrequently, it's recommend you verify what amount of inactivity is tolerable and won't result in email account deletion.
 
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italiandragon said:
I also stopped using PayPal and so I have never been scammed despite lots of scammers tried to scam me offering me too many good names for cheap or trying to buy with PayPal my names.

JUST STOP USING THAT USELESS COMPANY and use MoneyBookers Escrow!!!

:yell:


The reason why some LLLL.com prices dropped is mainly because of these scammers that re-sell the stolen domains at lower prices to get away quickly with their scams.
i think we can still use paypal if we are buying from or selling to a trustable member and i do this but i am careful because an account can be hacked by a scammer

the problem is when people see a too-good-to-be-true sale or offer and get blinded; then they are scammed
in these sales thebest thing to do is use an escrow service; as you told moneybookers' can be used as sedo's, moniker's even being more expensive but you will be safe

i have to agree with you about the relation between scammers and LLLL.com prices
 
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Is verified paypal account safe. I mean, if someone has a verified paypal account can he also make use of the charge-back?
 
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Paypal is never safe.

fleadom said:
Is verified paypal account safe. I mean, if someone has a verified paypal account can he also make use of the charge-back?
 
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fleadom said:
Is verified paypal account safe. I mean, if someone has a verified paypal account can he also make use of the charge-back?

Paypal accounts, whether verified or not, can be stolen( or hacked into) and when real owner finds out about transaction, a chargeback would definitely occur.
 
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fleadom said:
Is verified paypal account safe. I mean, if someone has a verified paypal account can he also make use of the charge-back?

answering to your question: of course a verified PayPal can do a chargeback

(plus trust me, being "verified" does not guarantee much)
 
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That happened to me in 2006 (unrelated to domaining) and marked the last time I used Paypal until very recently when I realized it was costing me a fair bit more in lost sales than the chargebacks would have.

As sorry as I feel for a person who's account is actually hacked, I really don't see how I should be the one out $300+ -- what did I do wrong to deserve that? Why isn't this covered under seller protection?

Frankly, I'd love to see someone sue these POS and I really wish everyone would just use Moneybookers.

UrbanCowboy said:
Paypal accounts, whether verified or not, can be stolen( or hacked into) and when real owner finds out about transaction, a chargeback would definitely occur.
 
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Reece said:
Frankly, I'd love to see someone sue these POS and I really wish everyone would just use Moneybookers.


if only the sheeps that follow the 3 chars letter quality fable would follow your invite, we would have solved the issues....

oh wait.....but then they would have to pay 1% of the transaction for the MB Escrow......noooooooo......better a free fees PayPal ticket for a chargeback!! :music:
 
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Reece, Italiandragon, UrbanCowboy, thank you very much for your instant responses. Paypal will be past for me really soon.
 
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as a BIG powerseller.

I have sent hundreds of NEW customers to paypal "because i trust them" and NEVER had a problem with them.

untill something more secure comes up. with out spam. etc
Go paypal.
 
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I guess ppl with no trader ratings show not be able to use Paypal
 
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Yes, that's where 90%+ of the problems occur (no offence to the hundreds of honest members with zero trader ratings).

It's very rare that you'll run into trouble with a member with 5+ iTrader, much like it is dealing with eBay powersellers. It happens, but if you're careful about who you deal with, it happens much less often. Moneybookers is a must imho for people with zero feedback.

Takwa said:
I guess ppl with no trader ratings show not be able to use Paypal
 
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Yea, over on DP, I got scammed on two of my LLLL.com's, FKKJ.com and PJJG.com. Here is the link to it:

http://forums.DigitalPoint/showthread.php?t=799489&highlight=fkkj.com

That guy has been scamming on DP for a long time with lots of usernames is what we found. Unfortunately, we couldn't get him in time before he sold them. Anyways, that information was just a little heads up, just don't want him on NamePros....
 
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I got an email from [email protected]
trying to sell me bbuu.com for $199
When I goggle for webnamesolution.com, it got back lots of bad news. Can some one confirm is this is a scam or real? The price is too good to be true.
thx
 
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Lol, it's obviously too good to be true. Don't fall for it. Maybe you could set the guy up though...Ask for a phone number to talk to him, then call the police about it if you have found bad news about the guy...Thats what I would do, and have tried...Except, my setup didn't go as planned :)
 
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Thanks. Will do.

JrsDirectory said:
Lol, it's obviously too good to be true. Don't fall for it. Maybe you could set the guy up though...Ask for a phone number to talk to him, then call the police about it if you have found bad news about the guy...Thats what I would do, and have tried...Except, my setup didn't go as planned :)
 
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Oh, after researching, just figured out their scam :) Basically, they email you and make it appear as though they own the domain...But it's basically just a backordering service where when you pay, they try to get the domain...So they don't own it...Scammers!
 
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JrsDirectory said:
Oh, after researching, just figured out their scam :) Basically, they email you and make it appear as though they own the domain...But it's basically just a backordering service where when you pay, they try to get the domain...So they don't own it...Scammers!
They taste domains and try to sell to holders of alternate extensions. The name could be available now...
 
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BBUU.com is obviously not going to become available any time soon :)
 
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Thanks Sterling :) Appreciate it, I might bid myself :)
 
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Yes sir. B-)

Anytime!

Good luck

JrsDirectory said:
Thanks Sterling :) Appreciate it, I might bid myself :)
 
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Can someone help me? I think I have a scammer on the fishing line. He wants to buy every single 4 letter .com I have and seems to only want to pay with paypal. He has 0 feedback in Ebay and 0 the other site he has listed. He seems to have been buying domains up. He gave me a site www.thedomainboss.com and I tried to check the whois put its unlisted. Anyone want to clue me in on what to do next. I don't really care about selling the domains I just want to catch this guy if he is a fraud.

Here is what I have gathered from him
He claims to work for enom and states that he cannot scam me due to the fact that I will be transferring the domains to another registrar*******I'm not sure if this is true
He only wants to use paypal
His ebay username is sbsb20sbsb20
His site he claims is www*thedomainboss*com
His name is Serge Basi*l
On v7n.com his username is serge20
and here is his latest deal

http://www.v7n.com/forums/domains/87292-about-30-llll-com-sell.html

I just need to know if I can trust this guy or if hes a scammer. If he is I want to catch him
 
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INDIGIAN.com said:
Can someone help me? I think I have a scammer on the fishing line. He wants to buy every single 4 letter .com I have and seems to only want to pay with paypal. He has 0 feedback in Ebay and 0 the other site he has listed. He seems to have been buying domains up. He gave me a site www.thedomainboss.com and I tried to check the whois put its unlisted. Anyone want to clue me in on what to do next. I don't really care about selling the domains I just want to catch this guy if he is a fraud.
First of all. Don't sell him anything (at least for now) .. Everything you said sound fishy about this guy.

Also, thedomainboss.com created 11 Apr 2008

I'm digging right now for more info.
 
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I'm trying to get him to push me 35 bucks for one domain so I can see where his paypal is coming from
 
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