Don't ask for appraisals for new TLDs

sdsinc said:

Hello :hi:

Please don't ask for appraisals for new TLDs.
There is no established market. Therefore nobody can give you a price range. But it is very unlikely you will be able to resell them at a profit.

Therefore assume they are worth zero undeveloped :gl:

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That is true.:blink:

They should know the value of their precious gems since they reg'd them.

According to these humans, the value of their domains comes from their grandiose development ideas... but their very own website still says "Just another Wordpress site" :D They have little to no experience about developing names.

That alone should tell them to stop right there in their tracks, and stop reg'ing... coz without their development ideas... or rather development dreams actually happening, those domains are worth nothing.

Best appraisal is to list a name for sale and see what it gets.

By far most are a waste of money crap except for something like free.porn is going to be worth millions! or possibly the most valuable domain in the world, ever!

Cool.Ventures said:

By far most are a waste of money crap except for something like free.porn is going to be worth millions! or possibly the most valuable domain in the world, ever!

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Good luck with that.

Sorry I just broke that rule - good tip though to develop the site for brand with quirky domains. Think I'll have to do this .

Cool.Ventures said:

By far most are a waste of money crap except for something like free.porn is going to be worth millions! or possibly the most valuable domain in the world, ever!

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unless you secure the .xxx you wont be getting .porn. .xxx owners get priority. $$$$$

out of all these extensions, I wish I had Newyork.cab LOL

Actually, even developed the domain may not be worth much because unless the site ranks in the first few spots of a major search engine (preferably Google) for some phrase with decent search volume, you won't get much traffic. Paid advertisements push even the top organic results down the page and ranking number one amongst hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of search results is not going to be possible without an additional investment of resources - most likely substantial for competitive phrases.

agree 100%. We need to see names bought and sold several times to have an idea of their worth.

Just go to flippa to get the real value … ??

nothere said:

agree 100%. We need to see names bought and sold several times to have an idea of their worth.

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I agree to wait to see, but the problem is... until we wait...there will not much hand regs left to grab when/if they will be doing ok later on market... so... should we wait and see or should we reg, assuming getting garbage for now?

SimpleDomaining said:

I agree to wait to see, but the problem is... until we wait...there will not much hand regs left to grab when/if they will be doing ok later on market... so... should we wait and see or should we reg, assuming getting garbage for now?

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I say you're either in or you're out, and if you're in you better act now.

But, it's becoming very clear that the registries have designed it so really the only ones to profit from any of this will be the registries.

i looked the other day at a few extensions, hire was the keyword, today i went back and did another check only to see that hire.photography is now a premium name @ $240 a year ….shame on you donuts

SimpleDomaining said:

I agree to wait to see, but the problem is... until we wait...there will not much hand regs left to grab when/if they will be doing ok later on market... so... should we wait and see or should we reg, assuming getting garbage for now?

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SimpleDomain! that's a cogent point, that was how it was in 80s when only few people knew that doman is like precious stones and see what is happenning today. But however, unless one could envisage the right extension that could become precious jewel in the next 5 years to come. I know quite well that one or two of these multiple extensions will become great.
l want to predict .guru to likely be the one that would be great, not because it is leading them now, but simply because it can go with so many things on Earth today: such as computer.guru, music.guru, merchant.guru, marketing.guru etc.:wave:

For the sake of knowledge...did anyone bother thinking ( or imagining ) how the new .everything will rank?

This is not a rhetorical question, I was just wondering if and how they will fit all G algorithms, SEO ect because if they will be in some ways penalized ( or simply not helped ) the people who are registering those names now will have 90% of the market cut off : the domainers.

I mean, we all know that the majority of the names are sold by domainers to other domainers and then ( maybe ) after passing through 8 of us they find their way to an end user...now..just imagine having to hold on to a 240$ renewal fee for 5-10 years because there are no investors willing to buy it.

Did I make my point? What do you all think?

photonmymind said:

For the sake of knowledge...did anyone bother thinking ( or imagining ) how the new .everything will rank?

This is not a rhetorical question, I was just wondering if and how they will fit all G algorithms, SEO ect because if they will be in some ways penalized ( or simply not helped ) the people who are registering those names now will have 90% of the market cut off : the domainers.

I mean, we all know that the majority of the names are sold by domainers to other domainers and then ( maybe ) after passing through 8 of us they find their way to an end user...now..just imagine having to hold on to a 240$ renewal fee for 5-10 years because there are no investors willing to buy it.

Did I make my point? What do you all think?

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Yes, you've made your point and very clear, but I 'm sure the renewal fee will not continue as high as it is today, take for example the .co and many other extensions are high when first released but they later on reduced the price. I hope same thing will still happen with these multiple extensions. Get it clear that the registries are also willing to make money to cover their ICANN fee paid before giving them the right to the extension.
For sure the price will come down but may not as low as usual.
Moreso, not all of them are high, take .sexy for example just $15 per year.
Cheers.

The problem with those extensions is their limited scope. You just can't put any keyword to the left of .guru or .sexy, .link or .whatever. These TLDs are gadgets to me, I can't use them for my real-world business, which is a serious business.
On the other hand a .com or ccTLD is versatile. It can be used for anything.

Since the supply of meaningful keywords is limited, the growth prospects are capped from the beginning.
And accordingly the demand (if there is one) will be tiny as well. There isn't going to be enough volume.
It's already hard enough to turn a profit on .com. The few opportunities in this game are for the registries, not the ordinary domainers.

phase1 said:

such as computer.guru, music.guru, merchant.guru, marketing.guru etc.:wave:

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To take an example, computer.guru was actually bought by this guy:
http://domainincite.com/15711-meet-the-first-new-gtld-domainer

The guy apparently spent $30,000 on .guru domains. Ouch.
I almost feel bad for him. People like him have gambled on the second coming of .com, they all got burnt, always, for a reason.

I mean, it's okay to speculate, even to buy stuff that is worthless but do you really need to buy hundreds or thousands of domains when you know you are only going to sell a couple at best... the few sales are unlikely to offset the losses and renewal costs.

Well Google currently has my www. branding .center on page 8 for the keywords 'branding center' - obviously that may change if I don't add content.



**Originally Posted by: photonmymind
For the sake of knowledge...did anyone bother thinking ( or imagining ) how the new .everything will rank?

This is not a rhetorical question, I was just wondering if and how they will fit all G algorithms, SEO ect because if they will be in some ways penalized ( or simply not helped ) the people who are registering those names now will have 90% of the market cut off : the domainers.

I mean, we all know that the majority of the names are sold by domainers to other domainers and then ( maybe ) after passing through 8 of us they find their way to an end user...now..just imagine having to hold on to a 240$ renewal fee for 5-10 years because there are no investors willing to buy it.

Did I make my point? What do you all think? **

Just another WordPress site :imho:

Do you feel really smart that you noticed it was just a free WordPress template I found online? Okay great. That wasn't the point I was trying to make. I'm just showing how the .center gTLD is having no problem ranking on Google. This is a site I may or may not develop. So the template is just a placeholder.

NS said:

Just another WordPress site :imho:

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gc1282 said:

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. I'm just showing how the .center gTLD is having no problem ranking on Google.

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So you are ranking on page #8 for a non-competitive expression with no search volume. Impressive :hehe:

You are on page 8 for me too.
But this comes on page 6:
https://flippa.com/domain-appraisals/839-branding-center

Yeah... the Flippa "appraisal"... that was solely for my amusement. Everybody knows the so called crowd-sourced domain appraisals from Flippa aren't to be taken seriously. And no search volume? If you're referring to the 2 words 'branding' and 'center' combined having only 20 exact match results ... yeah and? 'Branding' alone has 110k exact. Branding.Center is intended to be a brandable phrase domain Miss know it all.

And I wasn't trying to show how impressive my #8 position is (are you mentally ill?). I haven't even begun to develop a website around it (that is if I decide I want to) All I was doing was pointing out that, YES new gTLD's are being taken seriously by Google. Good day Miss Know It All.

sdsinc said:

So you are ranking on page #8 for a non-competitive expression with no search volume. Impressive :hehe:

You are on page 8 for me too.
But this comes on page 6:
https://flippa.com/domain-appraisals/839-branding-center

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That's it, any TLD can be indexed in google. Nobody said otherwise.

Just letting the people wondering about this issue that yea, search engines are indexing the new gTLDs just fine. Okay buh bye

sdsinc said:

That's it, any TLD can be indexed in google. Nobody said otherwise.

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