alert The fund can't be withdrawal from Epik.com via Masterbucks wallet

[enamebroker]

It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

 

[Samer]

We need a name? Who are you, @Epik Domains?
Is this a new beginning? Or the beginning of the end.

 

[Derek Peterson]

You know, I don't normally like to disclose DM either, however in this case it is relevant.
Also, "Epik Domains" proactively contacted me.

There is one part they specifically asked me not to repeat, and I will honor that.
It was a reasonable request, that has nothing to do with protecting Epik.

That means the rest should be fair game.

I redacted one of my domains they referred to. As far as I know, it was my only other transaction with Epik and was not publicly known.

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My response -

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There was some more back and forth, with a lot of Rob being the "victim".

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Wow! This @Epik Domains is a real POS. I'm going to teach him a lesson even if it isn't Monster or Royce.

 

[bmugford]

Just for clarity, I would not usually post any DM.

I do not feel great about posting DM, but I feel even worse for the victims.

In this situation, I feel it is warranted.

@Epik Domains is more than welcome to respond here.

I think any discussion should be public and transparent.

I don't think "new" Epik really seems to understand the gravity of the situation and how many victims there actually are.

Their comments in the thread so far have been disrespectful, to say the least.

Even in the DM they were clearly shifting the blame.

Thanks,
Brad

 

[Derek Peterson]

Just for clarity, I would not usually post any DM.

I do not feel great about posting DM, but I feel even worse for the victims.

In this situation, I feel it is warranted.

@Epik Domains is more than welcome to respond here.

I think any discussion should be public and transparent.

I don't think "new" Epik really seems to understand the gravity of the situation and how many victims there actually are.

Their comments in the thread so far have been disrespectful, to say the least.

Even in the DM they were clearly shifting the blame.

Thanks,
Brad

They are anons trying to have private conversations and manipulate people. Screw them, and by "them" I mean Rob Monster.

 

[alcy]

meanwhile people like Kathleen and others have their lifespans reduced via stress... pills...etc... I wonder who will pay for that stress.. the least they could do is wave her commissions... and the real honor would be to add another say 9% for stress.. health issues... and faster aging. instead she got nothing except some hope.

 

[tonyk2000]

I don't think "new" Epik really seems to understand the gravity of the situation and how many victims there actually are.

As well as ICANN thing. Anonymous LLC may be trying to resolve account-specific issues by contacting identified customers via PMs, but "Notices of Breach, Suspension, Termination and Non-Renewal" ICANN page does not yet say anything like "Data and Documents Under Review by ICANN" in cases list - "1 June 2023: ICANN Sends Notice of Breach to Registrar (Epik Inc. (IANA #617)) " part. It probably indicates that ICANN did not yet receive a response from Epik. Moreover, ICANN registrars directory still shows "Epik Inc" as accredited registrar. How can new Epik state that "the future is bright" is beyond understanding. Their accreditation may still be terminated later this month, or accreditation transfer to Epik LLC may still be denied...

 

[bmugford]

As well as ICANN thing. Anonymous LLC may be trying to resolve account-specific issues by contacting identified customers via PMs, but "Notices of Breach, Suspension, Termination and Non-Renewal" ICANN page does not yet say anything like "Data and Documents Under Review by ICANN" in cases list - "1 June 2023: ICANN Sends Notice of Breach to Registrar (Epik Inc. (IANA #617)) " part. It probably indicates that ICANN did not yet receive a response from Epik. Moreover, ICANN registrars directory still shows "Epik Inc" as accredited registrar. How can new Epik state that "the future is bright" is beyond understanding. Their accreditation may still be terminated later this month, or accreditation transfer to Epik LLC may still be denied...

Well, the ICANN breach notice certainly adds a new layer of issues for them.

Of course, "new" Epik could have just acquired the entire "old" Epik company, including all assets AND debts.

Instead, they separated the assets and debts. It is basically impossible to claim the deal doesn't benefit certain creditors.

Someone is clearly responsible for the debt. It doesn't simply evaporate into thin air because a few sheets of paper were (allegedly) signed.

Brad

 

[tonyk2000]

"Notices of Breach, Suspension, Termination and Non-Renewal" ICANN page does not yet say anything like "Data and Documents Under Review by ICANN" in cases list - "1 June 2023: ICANN Sends Notice of Breach to Registrar (Epik Inc. (IANA #617)) " part. It probably indicates that ICANN did not yet receive a response from Epik. Moreover, ICANN registrars directory still shows "Epik Inc" as accredited registrar

Let's think about it further. Brian Royce, who received the breach notice, is not with Epik anymore according to his own statement. So, ICANN might well receive a response, but from Epik LLC. Legally and technically, such a response means nothing and probably wasn't read or taken into account. Unknown 3rd party responded. Epik Inc. did not respond. Goodbye...

And, lack of officers list @ epik website, a must thing as per RAA, alone is enough to terminate the accreditation.

 

[Derek Peterson]

Let's think about it further. Brian Royce, who received the breach notice, is not with Epik anymore according to his own statement. So, ICANN might well receive a response, but from Epik LLC. Legally and technically, such a response means nothing and probably wasn't read or taken into account. Unknown 3rd party responded. Epik Inc. did not respond. Goodbye...

And, lack of officers list @ epik website, a must thing as per RAA, alone is enough to terminate the accreditation.

Yeah, but you can buy an existing accredited registrar for like $15K and i assume transfer those names to new registrar or probably just change registrar hooks in code to the new ones.

The only thing that will stop Rob Monster is civil and criminal complaints. ICANN won't do a thing.

 

[GNP]

Let's think about it further. Brian Royce, who received the breach notice, is not with Epik anymore according to his own statement. So, ICANN might well receive a response, but from Epik LLC. Legally and technically, such a response means nothing and probably wasn't read or taken into account. Unknown 3rd party responded. Epik Inc. did not respond. Goodbye...

And, lack of officers list @ epik website, a must thing as per RAA, alone is enough to terminate the accreditation.

You are assuming "they" are playing nice and stating they are a different entity. There always is a chance that "they" pretend to be the same company in communications with ICANN. Based on Epik's prior history, I wouldn't put it past them to try -- though hopefully -- it would fail (spectacularly).

Nice catch, hopefully, someone has reported the lack of officers list to ICANN to ensure they know about it.

 

[bmugford]

Yeah, but you can buy an existing accredited registrar for like $15K and i assume transfer those names to new registrar or probably just change registrar hooks in code to the new ones.

An existing registrar without debts and not facing an ICANN breach notice.

This situation is a little more complex.

Brad

 

[Derek Peterson]

This is obviously Rob Monster and he is obviously trying to justify leaving all the Masterbucks and other debt behind. He is such a disgraceful and pitiful excuse for a human being. It is funny watching him escalate and try to cover up and justify his crimes, they always do. It's usually the thing that does them in. It will great to mock him with prison letters.

 

[Derek Peterson]

An existing registrar without debts and facing an ICANN breach notice.

This situation is a little more complex.

Brad

What? Yes, no debt and no breach notice. I'm talking about a totally new registrar. There are always dozens of them for sale at any given time for between $10-20K.

 

[Derek Peterson]

What? Yes, no debt and no breach notice. I'm talking about a totally new registrar. There are always dozens of them for sale at any given time for between $10-20K.

But I honestly don't know how it works with converting existing registrar to a new one.

 

[Gabriel360]

Seems like someone paid $5M for the privilege of drumming up sympathy for Monster.

 

[Derek Peterson]

New Epik bought old epik registrar and terra hosting for ~$5M. I heard they paid more than that for Terrahost like year and half ago.

 

[NicTraders]

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What is Brian celebrating?

That message certainly makes him sound like Epik LLC!

 

[Chris Hydrick]

[email protected] Security Question: favorite person in history = Putin??

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665740581744660483

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K4X?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665710989042413576

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OFAC Violation?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1664227697130627072

 

[NicTraders]

Much more likely he is the only VOCAL victim of amplify. io

Yeah, I’m guessing most Amplify complaints are on financial/crypto forums, rather than on a Domain forum.

I don't think "new" Epik really seems to understand the gravity of the situation and how many victims there actually are.

Yes, that seems to be the case. I suspect they’ve been duped a bit and really have no idea about the ill will as a result of the MB debacle. While Derek may have the inside info that Rob is running the show, it certainly doesn’t seem to be him running that account. There is no way Rob would have held his tongue while Derek was calling him a b**ch and a weirdo psycho.

To be honest, while their introduction to the forum has been rather disastrous, this person does seem to be attempting to understand the situation and get things working properly.

 

[NicTraders]

Wow! This @Epik Domains is a real POS. I'm going to teach him a lesson even if it isn't Monster or Royce.

How will that help things Derek? You've been saying you're here because you want to see all victims made whole. If you mess with this guy and get him hacked (or whatever you intend), then there is even less likelihood of that happening.

 

[bmugford]

Yes, that seems to be the case. I suspect they’ve been duped a bit and really have no idea about the ill will as a result of the MB debacle. While Derek may have the inside info that Rob is running the show, it certainly doesn’t seem to be him running that account. There is no way Rob would have held his tongue while Derek was calling him a b**ch and a weirdo psycho.

I have no idea who is actually running this account, but they certainly have access to Epik records the average person would not. They mentioned a 2014 transaction that was never reported anywhere else.

To be honest, while their introduction to the forum has been rather disastrous, this person does seem to be attempting to understand the situation and get things working properly.

I guess I could take their efforts more seriously if they didn't exclude Masterbucks and other debts to customers, by design, and intend to leave those customers holding the bag for Epik's corporate abuse / mismanagement.

Or, if there was less victim blaming, back patting, excuses, and snide comments.

What purpose do comments like these serve?

"As all of you have documented and somehow had the time to write up 299 pages about this rehashing the same thing 80 different ways"

"Rob Monster might have made a bunch of bad mistakes, but he worked tirelessly for the last 9 months behind the scenes to make this deal happen and Brian Royce worked nonstop around the clock trying to save Epik and both tried as hard as possible to help as many clients as possible."

"If you truly understood the mess behind the scenes what these two men pulled off is miraculous. And any of your speculation is worthless at this point also."

"The story isn't nearly as bad as many posts here make it seem."

Brad

 

[bmugford]

I have no idea who is actually running this account, but they certainly have access to Epik records the average person would not. They mentioned a 2014 transaction that was never reported anywhere else.

Someone had a good point. Could this transaction have been included in the data breach?
I guess that is possible.

Though, that would be a lot of effort just to troll Epik victims on a forum.

Brad

 

[Future Sensors]

Someone had a good point. Could this transaction have been included in the data breach?
I guess that is possible.

I can already imagine how Epik LLC feels about this:

"We have never had a data breach and know nothing about it. The data breach was not part of the sale."

 

[bmugford]

I can already imagine how Epik LLC feels about this:

"We have never had a data breach and know nothing about it. The data breach was not part of the sale."

Yeah, the data breach was on the list of excluded assets.

Brad

 

[karmaco]

Just for clarity, I would not usually post any DM.

I do not feel great about posting DM, but I feel even worse for the victims.

In this situation, I feel it is warranted.

@Epik Domains is more than welcome to respond here.

I think any discussion should be public and transparent.

I don't think "new" Epik really seems to understand the gravity of the situation and how many victims there actually are.

Their comments in the thread so far have been disrespectful, to say the least.

Even in the DM they were clearly shifting the blame.

Thanks,
Brad

I think we learned everything we need to know about the “new” Epik when they complained about us dissecting the facts in this thread for the past 9 months as though it wasn’t justified.

People got screwed (not in a good way) and they are trying to woo a highly respected member to possibly get you to pipe down.

Where is the transparency and who are we actually dealing with? An owner with good intentions would let us know who the owner/ owners is.

Also why isn’t Kathleen getting paid yet?