poll Downvoting should be removed

[Chieff]

I have suggestion that downvoting should be removed from forum

Downvoting facilitate mob mentality

Don't know why community like namepros still have it

Reasons:

1. It stops ppl from sharing different opinions
2. People don't want to see difference in opinion use downvote as a tool to pull down

 

[TheDev]

Downvoting facilitate mob mentality

And its removal doesn't? I wholeheartedly disagree. Keep the down vote.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

It was meant to deter people from posting and its working remarkably well.
Already using fake usernames, avatars
of Fred Flinstone.
Also you can really hurt someones reputation much more with invisible votes as some get 5 or 6 compared to simple dislike or disagree.
No worries though, soon there will be a platinum account so you can see who is cruising around in stealth mode doing the good or bad deeds incognito
Been discussed many times before and I agree they should ditch.it

 

[D Haynes]

Keep it but don't make them anonymous. Anonymous downvotes as pathetic.

 

[Alop]

It was meant to deter people from posting and its working remarkably well.
Already using fake usernames, avatars
of Fred Flinstone.
Also you can really hurt someones reputation much more with invisible votes as some get 5 or 6 compared to simple dislike or disagree.
No worries though, soon there will be a platinum account so you can see who is cruising around in stealth mode doing the good or bad deeds incognito
Been discussed many times before and I agree they should ditch.it

Platinum account !!!!! I’m so excited

 

[Chieff]

And its removal doesn't? I wholeheartedly disagree. Keep the down vote.

You need to do some research and understand what it means before asking such question

 

[karmaco]

Its only been in place the last year or two. It helps the forum regulate itself. I bet the mods get less reports. Haven’t seen a fight in here since. Trolls don’t last.

The upvotes are anonymous as well so you’d have to remove those if you want things completely equal.

 

[postscripter]

why there are no polling options to vote here?
anyway. No, keep downvoting.

 

[sofiapartner]

I agree.

 

[DomainBanana]

I think NamePros should focus on building a positive, friendly culture where people support and help each other.

The downvotes do exactly the opposite, building a toxic culture of hate, and they are a big reason why I've largely moved on to other domain communties.

These votes rarely show if a comment is helpful or unhelpful, so what purpose are they serving?

Usually, they are just about personal attacks and bringing people down.

Anonymous downvoting is also a cowardly act. If someone doesn't like something I say, I'd much rather them react with a "Dislike" to my face than hiding behind a downvote.

Please get rid of the anonymous downvotes.

 

[E-Promote]

Don't know why community like namepros still have it

Probably because they are not censorship hungry control freak snowflakes like some social media.

 

[Chieff]

Its only been in place the last year or two. It helps the forum regulate itself. I bet the mods get less reports. Haven’t seen a fight in here since. Trolls don’t last.

The upvotes are anonymous as well so you’d have to remove those if you want things completely equal.

There is a difference - forums are good place to share thoughts, exchange information , place to discuss, share experience

if someone is making a reply from different perspective ; making a counter reply or explaining better in words are the constructive way

But downvotes does not share opinions / thoughts it just facilitate disagreement without any words, this simple act does not answers the thread

And who know how much expertise the person have to downvote ?

 

[karmaco]

There is a difference - forums are good place to share thoughts, exchange information , place to discuss, share experience

if someone is making a reply from different perspective ; making a counter reply or explaining better in words are the constructive way

But downvotes does not share opinions / thoughts it just facilitate disagreement without any words, this simple act does not answers the thread

And who know how much expertise the person have to downvote ?

I understand your thoughts but when I see a downvote I view it as “I don’t like or agree with your post” it’s basically rating the quality of the post. When this type of voting is present you can usually view a thread by up votes at the top but that doesn’t seem to be present on this forum unless I missed it.

I am neutral on this topic but we don’t have popcorn fighting threads since it started.

 

[Revisiting]

I'm not keen on it. To often it's the "Well I'm invested in this area of discussion" Your opinion doesn't help my cause = downvote.
However, as stated It's important to get a quick consensus on trolls and the like, On balance, I think we should keep it. Probably helps keep the Mods inbox lighter

 

[ARCCLOUD]

I have suggestion that downvoting should be removed from forum

Downvoting facilitate mob mentality

Don't know why community like namepros still have it

Reasons:

1. It stops ppl from sharing different opinions
2. People don't want to see difference in opinion use downvote as a tool to pull down

I think down-voting should stay but require a reply. I can disagree with your decision, but state why. Thus would deter down-voting "Just because" and allow more conversation to the topic at hand. There should be both sides of the coin. If this going to be more than just Reditt, a discussion would be better suited than just down-voting alone.

 

[james haw]

Downvoting facilitate mob mentality

I think you need to understand cause and effect. Downvoting does nothing other than allow people to "disagree" or "dislike" a post, or label it as "bad/poor/spam" etc. If people "mob" to downvote then generally there's a reason, it's spam/marketing in the wrong place, badly written, bad advice, etc.

With your argument, upvoting could also "facilitate mob mentality" - popular forum users can get upvoted just because people know them, more than non-popular ones. Someone well known can post and get 20 upvotes, and the same post by someone unknown may only get 5 or 10.

Do we remove upvoting too?

1. It stops ppl from sharing different opinions

No, removing the downvote stops people sharing accurate opinions. Downvote balances out upvote, if the site only allows upvote then the net votes on a post is entirely skewed.

Say 10 people want to upvote, without downvote the net votes is "+10". But what if those 10 people are misguided, uneducated in the context/topic, etc? And 25 people would have downvoted. With downvote functionality the net votes is now "0" - which reflects a more structured and accurate representation of the users overall opinion of a post.

People don't like negativity, but downvoting is not by nature "negative" it's just an opinion of something. By removing downvote you are forcing people's opinions by only allowing upvote (or no vote).

If a post is bad, spam, people disagree, or it's misinformation, then allow the site's voting mechanics to reflect this.

 

[DomainBanana]

Downvote balances out upvote, if the site only allows upvote then the net votes on a post is entirely skewed.

There's a reason many social media sites don't allow down votes: these sites work to cultivate a friendly, positive, welcoming community. They want people to feel good when they use the site.

Downvotes do the opposite. They leave people feeling bad and build a culture of hate and division.

 

[james haw]

Downvotes do the opposite. They leave people feeling bad and build a culture of hate and division.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but you cannot protect people like this at the cost of losing useful information and accuracy. At the risk of sounding dramatic, this is what is becoming wrong with the world, not just forums or voting. People are upset at anything, no matter how much you pander to them. Medals given to all participants not just 1st 2nd 3rd. It's crazy, and it's very wrong.

Downvoting is very important on some mediums. To use another platform as an example:
On YouTube when they removed the downvote stats we could no longer at a glance see what is likely a poor video, or "bad advice".
The many tech videos with very bad advice now only show the positive upvotes from inexperienced people believing they were helped by the bad advice. When in fact those "250" upvotes are meaningless when you see the "3500" downvotes!

This is comparative here. If someone posts a thread advising to invest heavily in some new niche, and in fact it's dead or for whatever reason very bad advice, only allowing upvotes skews the accuracy of the overall opinion.

20 people agree with this terrible advice as they have already invested in this niche.
With no downvotes everyone sees advice as "+20" and so more people invest badly as a result.
With downvotes, even if 15 sane people with experience see and downvote it, now people only see "+5", which weakens the potential it's good advice.

"Hate and division" comes from being hateful, not from useful and accurate metrics like downvoting. If people feel bad from facts then that's on them, the world should absolutely not remove accurate facts just because some people cannot handle them. That is not fair on everyone else.

Besides, better to make people feel sad and not buy more bad domains than just upvote them to oblivion and let them become in financial ruin, no?

 

[DomainBanana]

I don't mean to sound harsh, but you cannot protect people like this at the cost of losing useful information and accuracy. ...

Downvoting is very important on some mediums.

I don't see this as about protecting people, just creating a community that people feel good about.

Downvoting is important on some mediums, like StackExchange.

If it serves a function for certain kinds of domaining advice, then maybe keep it in a narrow part of the forum where precision matters.

In general, NP is more like a social network than a place where precision is important.

Most of the downvoting I've seen on NP is a kind of reactive, tribal thing, where people judge each other over petty things and try to assert their superiority by putting other people down. It creates anger, hate, division, and overall a negative user experience.

 

[james haw]

Most of the downvoting I've seen on NP is a kind of reactive, tribal thing, where people judge each other over petty things and try to assert their superiority by putting other people down. It creates anger, hate, division, and overall a negative user experience.

If there's a problem then fix it directly, don't blanket cover the issue and negatively impact useful site functionality.

Removing the downvote functionality causes negative effect on the good forum users by removing their helpful downvote tool. isn't this catering for what you say the bad people want?

Also, I think you're being very over the top saying things like "anger and hate" and "assert their superiority by putting other people down". I mean sure there are angry people around but you make it sound like there are thousands of gangs forming up to downvote. I don't think the problem is quite as bad as you make out.

Besides however many angry and hateful people there are, they will do all manner of things to cause disruption or upset people. So you're just pushing the core problem to another area.

Also, people will upvote for stupid reasons too. The opposite of anger and hate, they are happy, had a good day, but nothing relevant to the content of the post. Is this to be stopped too?

 

[biggie]

I think down-voting should stay but require a reply. I can disagree with your decision, but state why.

Hi

in a more "mentally mature environment", such replies would be given without a requirement needed.

as those who have strong convictions and can elaborate their contrasting or contracting opinions/viewpoints in a constructive manner,
will garner respect simply for their ability to express how they feel about the subject.

often times, those who speak-up, will say things that others may be thinking...but they won't come forward on their own, even if/when they are in agreement.

imo....

 

[Peter45]

There's a reason why many social media sites don't allow down votes

Indeed.
We can discuss about the why's of that, fact is the downvoting option is not the norm.
There must be a reason for that

I think down-voting should stay but require a reply.

Agree.
Think about real life: you tell something to someone. He/she says "I disagree".
Period. No explanation, no nothing. Doesn't it feel weird?

 

[Peter45]

Its only been in place the last year or two. It helps the forum regulate itself. I bet the mods get less reports. Haven’t seen a fight in here since. Trolls don’t last.

The latter should have more to do with the quality of the community than with the downvoting option, imo.

Should things turn around that downvoting option will become shit storms targeting independent minded members.

 

[Peter45]

Also you can really hurt someones reputation much more with invisible votes as some get 5 or 6 compared to simple dislike or disagree.

Imagine this: someone doesn't like a post of mine, either its content or simply its tone.

Now he goes to my profile and from there he hunts down my posting history downvoting each one of my posts.
Currently I have an impact rating of 58, with ca 40-50 posts.
I.e. he could wipe out 80-90% of my impact rating in less than 1 hour!

Now imagine further: for some reason he takes it so personal that he makes a routine out of it: every month's end.
My impact rating would be doomed to stay at zero forever!

 

[Prosperousness.com]

I have suggestion that downvoting should be removed from forum

Downvoting facilitate mob mentality

Don't know why community like namepros still have it

Reasons:

1. It stops ppl from sharing different opinions
2. People don't want to see difference in opinion use downvote as a tool to pull down

This forum with double standards!
Mod moved my liquid domain to the wrong marketplace section but meanwhile allowed to another member selling on liquid section. I am talking about N-L.com marketplace with value is mid-high $X,XXX according godady sales and valuation.

They are allowing stupid PM SENT POSTS on request thread but deleted my related domains on request threads. Why hide? Because they are cheese brokers not buyers!

I am found this forum is useless for domain investors. Do not share do not gift your content for this forum.

Now understand why all domainers on Twitter now.