question LLLN . com question

[BetoWH7]

hello i want to ask your inputs and advice about the potential value of a LLLN . com domain
3 letters and 1 number and .com
does this domains are valuable, and if so, does the place where the number appears matters in the value
example
1XXX. com will be less valuable than XXX1.com or that doesnt matter at all
thank you in advance

 

[BetoWH7]

ok doing some more research on namebio i found that a lot of the domains that sold actually have the number at the end so they are LLLN .com
but the prices are all over the place starting in low XXX to mid XXXXX

but now that ive done research i still dont find any rule to price those domains, any experience you had will be appreciated, thank you

 

[forge]

From my observations it seems that there is more demand for LLNN.com domains.

In any case, in general I think there are better ways to invest your domain dollars. I have several of the above, just testing the waters I suppose.

 

[Surya Giri Kurniawan]

When the trend of LLLL.com and NNNN.com was sparked, bought by Chinese investors, might be 4 years ago, I heard about investing in LLLN.com from a blog. If I am not mistakenly remembered it was in DNGeeks.com when it was still owned by Doron Vermat. I didn't invest on that LLLN.com. But it seems the prediction is right, and now LLLNs are valuable. There are also 5 letters without Vowel and some Consonants like V and Y. It seems that the demand is from Chinese investors.

 

[BetoWH7]

When the trend of LLLL.com and NNNN.com was sparked, bought by Chinese investors, might be 4 years ago, I heard about investing in LLLN.com from a blog. If I am not mistakenly remembered it was in DNGeeks.com when it was still owned by Doron Vermat. I didn't invest on that LLLN.com. But it seems the prediction is right, and now LLLNs are valuable. There are also 5 letters without Vowel and some Consonants like V and Y. It seems that the demand is from Chinese investors.

thank you, yes from some research i find that the demand comes from chinese investors, and its also very related to lucky numbers and letters combinations

to test the waters i have bougth 2 domains NLLL .com

and have already put them on sale on Dan and daaz

is there another marketplace, where i can offer them on sale, is there a specific marketplace that the chinese investors prefer ( please i mean no disrespect.. )

thank you

 

[Surya Giri Kurniawan]

thank you, yes from some research i find that the demand comes from chinese investors, and its also very related to lucky numbers and letters combinations

to test the waters i have bougth 2 domains NLLL .com

and have already put them on sale on Dan and daaz

is there another marketplace, where i can offer them on sale, is there a specific marketplace that the chinese investors prefer ( please i mean no disrespect.. )

thank you

Try 4.cn

 

[pb]

I have ccc3 in com, I've had several inquiries and offers, some very decent - unsurprisingly all of them from China.

 

[BetoWH7]

I have ccc3 in com, I've had several inquiries and offers, some very decent - unsurprisingly all of them from China.

that is good and encouranging news, i hope you can sell it soon for a decent profit
where did you advertise it, what marketplace are you using if i might ask

 

[pb]

Actually all contacts were directly from whois, even when the domain was listed on afternic etc.

 

[MKA]

I wouldn't rush into buying LLLN, unless the sequence of letters were very memorable visually, e.g. ttt5.com.

Because the thing is, these kind of domains only appeal to Chinese clients. And while it's a rapidly growing market, there are certain rules and patterns to alpha-numeric domains. For it to have value it needs to pop visually (e.g. ooo2.com), or the letters need to form a pin that when combined with the number need to make sense phonetically (e.g. wei8.com, "wei ba" which sounds like "wei da" which means "great").

The Chinese are also very sensitive to numbers.

0 = good at the end of a numeric sequence, not good for the beginning of a numeric sequence (not good for a LLLN)
1 = neutral number
2 = lucky number
3 = semi-lucky number
4 = super unlucky number
5 = semi-unlucky number (neural in most contexts, good if repeated)
6 = semi-lucky number
7 = unlucky number
8 = super lucky number
9 = lucky number
...
13 = super unlucky number

 

[BetoWH7]

I wouldn't rush into buying LLLN, unless the sequence of letters were very memorable visually, e.g. ttt5.com.

Because the thing is, these kind of domains only appeal to Chinese clients. And while it's a rapidly growing market, there are certain rules and patterns to alpha-numeric domains. For it to have value it needs to pop visually (e.g. ooo2.com), or the letters need to form a pin that when combined with the number need to make sense phonetically (e.g. wei8.com, "wei ba" which sounds like "wei da" which means "great").

The Chinese are also very sensitive to numbers.

0 = good at the end of a numeric sequence, not good for the beginning of a numeric sequence (not good for a LLLN)
1 = neutral number
2 = lucky number
3 = semi-lucky number
4 = super unlucky number
5 = semi-unlucky number (neural in most contexts, good if repeated)
6 = semi-lucky number
7 = unlucky number
8 = super lucky number
9 = lucky number
...
13 = super unlucky number

thank you so much for the explanation, now the combinations start to make a little more sense to me, i had a little clue about the number sensitivity, but i didnt know what numbers were considered lucky or unlucky thank you for pointing that out, the other part of the puzzle i have now is about the letters to form a pin that makes sense in chinese.
i need to learn a bit more.
again thank you for taking the time to explain , have a great day.

 

[BetoWH7]

i want to ask again, does a domain that ends with the number following the answer from @Astner
does a domain with LLLN .com

but using the format of C V V V N .com

i mean a Consonant to start and then three vocals and end with a number
would be more valuable to a potential client?

example CAAE2 . com will be more valuable than CBAE2 .com ( here with 2 consonants )

Sorry for the questions, as I am getting a bit confused. I now understand that the letter combo must spell something good, but I don't speak Chinese yet.

 

[MKA]

i want to ask again, does a domain that ends with the number following the answer from @Astner
does a domain with LLLN .com

but using the format of C V V V N .com

i mean a Consonant to start and then three vocals and end with a number
would be more valuable to a potential client?

example CAAE2 . com will be more valuable than CBAE2 .com ( here with 2 consonants )

Sorry for the questions, as I am getting a bit confused. I now understand that the letter combo must spell something good, but I don't speak Chinese yet.

Whether it's a consonant or vowel has little importance in general. Because Chinese people don't think in terms of alphabetic vowels and consonants, they think in terms of hanzi (Chinese characters). And every time they attempt to translate things to pinyin it can get clunky, so in many cases it's better to have an abbreviation.

Let's take the phrase "quick computing," which is 快速计算 (pinyin: kuài sù jì suàn). In this case you may think it's a good idea to have kuaisujisuan.com, but the problem is that the Chinese are not going to remember it because they don't think in terms of pinyin (they think in terms of hanzi), and it's going to be difficult for them to decipher 快速计算 to kuài sù jì suàn, because they don't do it regularly and a lot of these characters are phonetically ambiguous. For instance, in the example above the "n" is silent.

So in this case it would be better to have ksjs.com (first letter of each word), because that is easier for them to associate with 快速计算, and it's easier to remember.

Numbers can be used, so in this case the jì sounds a bit like 1 (yī) so ks1s.com also makes sense for Chinese people.

But if you don't want to do extensive research, the best way is to find something that visually pops like pb's "ccc3.com" because the pattern is something that sticks out visually, so it's very easy to remember (and type in) regardless of the business you're trying to run.

 

[BetoWH7]

Thank you so much, @Astner. its amazing how complex that sounds for me, yet so natural for them
i have learned a lot from your answer, thank you for being kind and having patience to teach me

i do find it very interesting, yet difficult, i think i will keep testing number and letter combinations

have an awesome weekend, and again thank you