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It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

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A new version of Masterbucks has been released, 4.0.3 instead of 4.0.2.

Interesting. I was expecting 4.0.2.1 release.

4.0.3 must be something major. Goes to show that Mr. Royce knows what he is doing and works tirelessly on righting the shit ship.
 
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For those joining this thread late and wanting to get caught up in a hurry here are 2 articles we have written on Epik and Rob Monster that you might find helpful. I have had many Epik victims write to me personally and tell me that those articles help them understand what they are up against in trying to get their monies back.

If anyone has ever used MasterBucks please reply back here or email me directly at [email protected] what the interest rate is you were promised (annual rate of return) for your MasterBucks holdings and what country you are from. Thanks!

This one deals with the MasterBucks Ponzi scheme:

https://providencepost.com/epik-update-masterbucks-fails-to-payout-customers-after-maintenance/

And this one deals with the Epik history and hack:
https://providencepost.com/a-monster-of-epik-proportions/

It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

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Did Epik really pay $100,000 from Kathleen Kalaf to Masterbucks?
Has Epik paid the Masterbucks money before? I doubt. Most likely, all the money was kept in Epik's bank accounts, and Masterbucks is an Excel spreadsheet for counting Epik's money and debts. This is also confirmed by the fact that, as they wrote here, the bank payment came from Epik, and not from Masterbucks.
Hi Igor, I don't know where my funds went. They were in Epik Escrow and were supposed to be sent to my bank account via direct deposit. But they sent them over to Masterbucks account, which I never agreed to. See my video.
 
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Did Epik really pay $100,000 from Kathleen Kalaf to Masterbucks?
Has Epik paid the Masterbucks money before? I doubt. Most likely, all the money was kept in Epik's bank accounts, and Masterbucks is an Excel spreadsheet for counting Epik's money and debts. This is also confirmed by the fact that, as they wrote here, the bank payment came from Epik, and not from Masterbucks.
Igor, see my video.
 
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Hi Igor, I don't know where my funds went. They were in Epik Escrow and were supposed to be sent to my bank account via direct deposit. But they sent them over to Masterbucks account, which I never agreed to. See my video.
I shared your video on Twitter. I really hate to see people taken advantage of like this.

Brad
 
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This type of thing is so fucked up.

Rob Monster with all his godly talk, co-abundance, rising tides, helping others, don't hurt people, and all the other positive stuff...

There is no way you could treat people like this if you have even the smallest amount of compassion and empathy.

While people are suffering he is not willing to show his face. Pathetic.

Brian Royce is no better. He is also not willing to interact with people who are owed money.

Also, he is running the ship now as they are still looking for new suckers to use the "escrow" service.

Brad

Brian or Epik should not be treating @Kathleen Kalaf this way.

Without confirmation, it looks like her story may involve a fully developed 7-letter .com with a 1996 WHOIS year, that was transferred to Epik in 2015.

As an epik customer, those epik escrow slogans such as “A domain escrow service that doesn't hold the domain is like a bank without a vault.” make a domain owner feel more secure about using an escrow service offered by their long time registrar.

Epiks TrustPilot reponding to her in the way the did, how dare them! Does Brian/Epik figure since this epik escrow transaction happened shortly after Masterbucks LLC was filed, that he/epik can get away with this?
 
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I shared your video on Twitter. I really hate to see people taken advantage of like this.

Brad
Thank you Brad. I don't know what else to do. I am not a domain person. I only owned one domain and I have been trying to sell it for 12 years. I needed it for retirement, as I am 60 years old. I went broke from being sick about 10 year ago and these were funds that were desperately needed.
 
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Epiks TrustPilot reponding to her in the way the did, how dare them! Does Brian/Epik figure since this epik escrow transaction happened shortly after Masterbucks LLC was filed, that he/epik can get away with this?
There certainly seems to be a lack of taking responsibility for their actions which lead to this.

There also seems to be a lack of empathy or compassion, not to mention the disingenuous nonsense of Masterbucks not being related to Epik.

Additionally, it is kind of sociopathic to still be offering "escrow" services when you can't pay out existing debts.

The "escrow" transaction now essentially ends with the seller being stuck with Masterbucks that can't be withdrawn. They seem to have no shame about that.

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Brian or Epik should not be treating @Kathleen Kalaf this way.

Without confirmation, it looks like her story may involve a fully developed 7-letter .com with a 1996 WHOIS year, that was transferred to Epik in 2015.

As an epik customer, those epik escrow slogans such as “A domain escrow service that doesn't hold the domain is like a bank without a vault.” make a domain owner feel more secure about using an escrow service offered by their long time registrar.

Epiks TrustPilot reponding to her in the way the did, how dare them! Does Brian/Epik figure since this epik escrow transaction happened shortly after Masterbucks LLC was filed, that he/epik can get away with this?
I owned Candida.com. I bought it in 2010 from Candida Corporation and tried to develop the site to help others. I only owned the one domain. Rob Monster actually tried to help me develop the site back then. But it did not work out and I have been trying to sell it ever since. I went flat broke in 2010 after being sick with Candida, which I why I acquired the domain. I was going to try to help others, and Rob respected that and helped me. Said he really cared about the cause as his wife is a naturopath. I just cannot believe that 12 years later it is tied up in this mess. I needed the funds so that I could retire. I have finally stopped sobbing but I am still just sick over this.
 
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I owned Candida.com. I bought it in 2010 from Candida Corporation and tried to develop the site to help others. I only owned the one domain. Rob Monster actually tried to help me develop the site back then. But it did not work out and I have been trying to sell it ever since. I went flat broke in 2010 after being sick with Candida, which I why I acquired the domain. I was going to try to help others, and Rob respected that and helped me. Said he really cared about the cause as his wife is a naturopath. I just cannot believe that 12 years later it is tied up in this mess. I needed the funds so that I could retire. I have finally stopped sobbing but I am still just sick over this.
I really hate to hear about this type of stuff.

Rob Monster's actions lead to this outcome, but Brian Royce is now making it even worse.
Neither of them are willing to take any responsibility.

Brian admitted that escrow funds were "commingled" and the "separation of operations wasn't there".

A good starting point would probably be filing a complaint with the Washington Attorney General -

https://www.atg.wa.gov/file-complaint

Brad
 
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I really hate to hear about this type of stuff.

Rob Monster's actions lead to this outcome, but Brian Royce is now making it even worse.
Neither of them are willing to take any responsibility.

Brian admitted that escrow funds were "commingled" and the "separation of operations wasn't there".

A good starting point would probably be filing a complaint with the Washington Attorney General -

https://www.atg.wa.gov/file-complaint

Brad
Thank you. I did that a couple of days ago.
 
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Thank you. I did that a couple of days ago.
Below is a screenshot of my account. These funds were never supposed to be in Masterbucks. They were supposed to be a direct deposit to my bank.
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I owned Candida.com. I bought it in 2010 from Candida Corporation and tried to develop the site to help others. I only owned the one domain. Rob Monster actually tried to help me develop the site back then. But it did not work out and I have been trying to sell it ever since. I went flat broke in 2010 after being sick with Candida, which I why I acquired the domain. I was going to try to help others, and Rob respected that and helped me. Said he really cared about the cause as his wife is a naturopath. I just cannot believe that 12 years later it is tied up in this mess. I needed the funds so that I could retire. I have finally stopped sobbing but I am still just sick over this.
Here is a screenshot of my account. This should never have gone to Masterbucks. It was supposed to be a direct deposit to my bank account.
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Below is a screenshot of my account. These funds were never supposed to be in Masterbucks. They were supposed to be a direct deposit to my bank. Show attachment 227967
I appreciate you making the video. It is good to be able to put a face to the people who are owed money.

To promise a direct deposit, then deliver the funds in a Masterbucks balance that can't be withdrawn...

Epik got paid. Buyer got the domain.
Seller gets left holding the bag.

How is that not just a flat out scam?

Brad
 
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Thank you. I did that a couple of days ago.

If you are in the US, it might be worthwhile to involve your congressman too.

It should be unthinkable that a US business is allowed to act as an escrow (without license), have party A transfer goods to Party B, take Party B's money and keep it, while passing worthless candy paper to Party A.
 
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If you are in the US, it might be worthwhile to involve your congressman too.

It should be unthinkable that a US business is allowed to act as an escrow (without license), have party A transfer goods to Party B, take Party B's money and keep it, while passing worthless candy paper to Party A.
I am in the USA. I am a US Citizen and live in Southern California. Thank you for the suggestion.
 
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If you are in the US, it might be worthwhile to involve your congressman too.

It should be unthinkable that a US business is allowed to act as an escrow (without license), have party A transfer goods to Party B, take Party B's money and keep it, while passing worthless candy paper to Party A.
Well, Rob seemed to have believed in this self-governance sovereign citizen nonsense.

There is a reason the escrow field is highly regulated, which is to avoid stuff exactly like this.

Commingling funds is a textbook example of corporate abuse that often leads to piercing of the corporate veil and other penalties. Brian Royce already confirmed that happened.

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Well, Rob seemed to have believed in this self-governance sovereign citizen nonsense.

There is a reason the escrow field is highly regulated, which is to avoid stuff exactly like this.

Commingling funds is a textbook example of corporate abuse that often leads to piercing of the corporate veil and other penalties. Brian Royce already confirmed that happened.

Brad

This is beyond commingling. As you pointed out, it is an outright spam and the State Attorney, the local congressmen, the victim's congressman, the consumer protection bureau should all come together to stop expanding the circle of victims.

These all should also warrant that Rob and Brian should be responsible with their personal assets for this mess, as well as some employees like Tony.
 
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This is beyond commingling. As you pointed out, it is an outright spam and the State Attorney, the local congressmen, the victim's congressman, the consumer protection bureau should all come together to stop expanding the circle of victims.

These all should also warrant that Rob and Brian should be responsible with their personal assets for this mess, as well as some employees like Tony.
Yes, it is the combination of the commingling and not being able to pay their debts.

It could just be a technical violation, but when it leads to not being able to pay debts that is a different story.

Also, piercing of the corporate veil is for situations just like this. Company structures provide limited protection under normal circumstances. When it comes to abuses, you can lose that protection.

The fact they are still soliciting new escrow business is unconscionable.

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Additionally, it is kind of sociopathic to still be offering "escrow" services when you can't pay out existing debts.
Criminal.
 
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While Brian and Rob may be in the USA, I don't think Tony is. When I spoke with him, he confirmed himself to be a Nigerian. That's why I'm thinking he is able to continue with the scamming since he would not directly be in danger of being sued or arrested as the other two.

I would think Rob and Brian are playing this today. And if serious action is not taking by those in the US, then this people are going to scam a huge number of people before everything falls apart finally.
 
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This is beyond commingling. As you pointed out, it is an outright spam and the State Attorney, the local congressmen, the victim's congressman, the consumer protection bureau should all come together to stop expanding the circle of victims.

These all should also warrant that Rob and Brian should be responsible with their personal assets for this mess, as well as some employees like Tony.

What would you recommend a person outside the US should do? Would the authorities help us get our money back as well?

And what if Epik closes down, what will happen to all the domains?
 
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What would you recommend a person outside the US should do? Would the authorities help us get our money back as well?

And what if Epik closes down, what will happen to all the domains?

I am afraid, there are less tools available to anyone outside of the US, if any.

At this point, first and primary thing is to stop expanding the circle of victims. There is also chance that Epik might be still funneling money out via the MB scam. Because, even though they apparently still get 6 figure income from escrow and other activities, we haven't heard of anyone getting their money from Epik lately, have we? So where does the new money go?

So, regulators and politicians need to get involved to put stop on this, as well as force Epik to start paying out. And, I personally don't believe Epik management and ownership deserves LLC protections and should be responsible with all their assets outside of the company as well.

Regarding the domains, they should be protected ICANN, which doesn't mean it cannot turn out messy.

So if you have some valuable names that you don't mind renewing early, start transferring them out.
 
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There certainly seems to be a lack of taking responsibility for their actions which lead to this.

There also seems to be a lack of empathy or compassion, not to mention the disingenuous nonsense of Masterbucks not being related to Epik.

Additionally, it is kind of sociopathic to still be offering "escrow" services when you can't pay out existing debts.

The "escrow" transaction now essentially ends with the seller being stuck with Masterbucks that can't be withdrawn. They seem to have no shame about that.

Brad

As franka46 said on his own Epik thread, Brian told him 'he will try to keep Epik alive ,''whatever it takes"'.

If Brian does truly mean that, how far 'whatever it takes' will to taken, try to be taken...
 
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I am afraid, there are less tools available to anyone outside of the US, if any.

At this point, first and primary thing is to stop expanding the circle of victims. There is also chance that Epik might be still funneling money out via the MB scam. Because, even though they apparently still get 6 figure income from escrow and other activities, we haven't heard of anyone getting their money from Epik lately, have we? So where does the new money go?

So, regulators and politicians need to get involved to put stop on this, as well as force Epik to start paying out. And, I personally don't believe Epik management and ownership deserves LLC protections and should be responsible with all their assets outside of the company as well.

Regarding the domains, they should be protected ICANN, which doesn't mean it cannot turn out messy.

So if you have some valuable names that you don't mind renewing early, start transferring them out.
Unless the authorities step in soon, I think there is going to be more and more people in the same situation unfortunately.

Obviously no one would knowingly sell a domain via an "escrow" service and take an internal currency that they can't withdraw. Clearly Epik is not telling this to people ahead of time either.

If I was owed a significant amount of money, I would go to every potential authority and make reports / file complaints, be that legal, regulatory, licensing, political, consumer protection, etc.

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