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I wrote this same text as a comment on one of the posts, but later I thought why not write a special topic about this thing and see that I suffer from this thing alone, or are there people like me who have the same problem? So I write here with a separate topic in the same idea with some modifications to the text. I hope you will share your opinion, advice or feeling with me.

I want to talk about us as sellers or investors in the domain, They cracked our heads with the xxxxxx domain sales reports, and I believed that, but through my experiences and expertise, I doubted all these things and reports.
I am not speaking out of envy, I am speaking in order to make the online community more honest and useful.

I don't know why I was disappointed in selling the domain and why I feel that these sales are fake and are just advertising for domain registration companies!
Look at our situation. We sellers buy from each other, and there is no final customer, but a seller who buys from a seller!
To confirm my suspicions, I researched the domain sales reports. Most of the domains that were sold at fantastic prices are not available online, or when you try to access them, you get a warning through an anti-virus program.
I began to suspect that most of these reports are being bought by the domain registry companies themselves as propaganda and to spread the spirit of hope that there are people who buy domains with XXXXX

I will tell you my experiences i will talk about my self!
I have more than 800 domains since 2 years I have not sold any of them! 800x10=8000 $
You may ask me why I bought all these domains? i will tell you why:
When I see xxxxxx sales reports Everywhere, my eyes pOp OuT :wideyed: Then my hand crawls over to the domain registrar then this sentence runs in my head ( Money Money i need money) For a while, I think that by investing in the domain, I will become Elon Musk and i will buy Twitter.
Then i start buy more and more domains, with every domain i buy i hoping to see XXXXXX luck smiling to me! 🍀 But :banghead: I did not see XXXXX, nor her cousin XXXX, nor even her aunt xxx or her grandmother xx. But once I got lucky once and I sold my domain through Dynadot User Action for $1 so i see x. In fact, I didn't see the full x because Dynadot took a 10% commission so I got 0.90 x. any way...

I think we sellers are just fuel for domain registration companies.
They play with our weakness, our need for money. They put out huge sales reports and we fall into the trap of greed. The result is that we lose more money, and domain registration companies earn more of our money!
In this case, the companies are the sellers and we are the buyers.

Maybe someone will jump off the screen and tell me look at the car.com domain sold for XXXXXXX.....Million dollars!
Ok do do you think that you can get a car.com domain name for $10?
All good domains are already registered my friend, don't think they will let any good domain fall and let you buy it with $10 so dont wait.

They tell us to buy more Domains, when you buy more Domains, your chances of selling will increase!!!
Yes, two years ago, until now, I paid $8000 and i won -$8000 and I'm still buying more every day when i see any X report and I'm still falling into the trap every day hoping luck smiles on me.

After that, exaggerated fictional reports begin to appear! Thousands of dollars and xxxxx again.
and again my eyes pOp OuT :wideyed: and I buy more and more, then i put them with domain parking companies.
The result is two years until now. I have earned 2.5 dollars from the investment. I'm talking about 800 domains, I'm talking about 8000 dollars.

Yes, I am a pessimist and I want to speak and express my feelings! Because I did not see anyone criticizing here, but all the topics are positive and sales reports, am I the only one thinking in this way?
 
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Please share link of your portfolio

We may know the reason of the topic
 
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Please share link of your portfolio

We may know the reason of the topic
My domain portfolio address is in the signature Dan. thank you for your replay
 
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You should really stop buying and get back to the start asap.

If you spent your money on domains like:
AllMovie.watch - 77777.click - OnMovie.xyz - Ethereu.me - TopMillion.xyz
(taken from your signature)
i can tell you domaining will never work for you. These are worthless at all.

Don't get me wrong. Don't want to blame you. But it looks like you did not read a lot about domaining before buying and registering those names.

Learn, read and study of what a valuable domain is and the more important why it is and for which kind endusers.
There are a lot of superb threads on here for example - give it a try!
 
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You should really stop buying and get back to the start asap.

If you spent your money on domains like:
AllMovie.watch - 77777.click - OnMovie.xyz - Ethereu.me - TopMillion.xyz
(taken from your signature)
i can tell you domaining will never work for you. These are worthless at all.

Don't get me wrong. Don't want to blame you. But it looks like you did not read a lot about domaining before buying and registering those names.

Learn, read and study of what a valuable domain is and the more important why it is and for which kind endusers.
There are a lot of superb threads on here for example - give it a try!
Well, I will accept your opinion, but share your experience with us. What makes you think these domains are not good? Did you see my portfolio? my portfolio address is in my signature (Dan) click on it and tell me are all the domains I own not good?
 
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No, that is the first point. It doensn't matter if I think these domains are good. The endusers view and need matter. You want to sell at retail pricing - not pitching to another domainer.

So. Lets change the view.

What make you register:

Allmovie.watch ?

How many sales got .watch extension ever had?
What are the endusers?
How often sold a term like "allmovie"?
What is the value in the name?

I can see there are only 23 sales reported at namebio. AT ALL. That's nothing. Latest $x,xxx sale was back in 2017. Only four sales at that price range - again - AT ALL. Forget about .watch - that is nothing to invest in.
 
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That is a highly emotional post.

One thing I can tell you for sure is,
if you get emotional in this job you are going to lose.. every single time.

Regarding the sales you see and think that they are fake,

they are real as they get, not understanding why someone might have bought a domain doesn't necessarily mean that the sale is not real.
.eg.
seeing an AV going crazy when visiting a sold domain it only means that you visited a parked domain that tried to redirect you to a zero-click page.
seeing a domain that sold high with a blank page might mean that it was bought as a future project or as a protection of the main brand
etc. etc.

Again, I believe that your emotions are getting in the way of seeing the true picture which is,
because you are not meeting your sales expectations you are trying to invalidate reality.

I believe *a lot* of domainers have been in your position at some point in their careers...including myself :)

good luck!
 
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Almost all of your 35 .com domains listed in your Dan portfolio are nonsensical and not even worth reg fee.

That's why you haven't sold any domains yet.
 
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In any case, thank you for your reply, but so far I have not received any useful information. I hope you will share your experience with us as little as possible. I think sharing experiences is better than patience and better than telling me that my domains are not good! Without any valid reason.
 
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Without any valid reason.
Ok, I'll rephrase to help you understand.

Your domains suck. Can't get more valid reason than that.
 
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Ok, I'll rephrase to help you understand.

Your domains suck. Can't get more valid reason than that.
Wow, great and useful advice.
 
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Please take the discussion seriously
 
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But what kind of experience do you want people to share? The experience shared is precisely in the ''Report Sales'' section.

I also looked at your portfolio, and it is simply that you don't have good domains (except for a couple unpronounceable 4L that probably will sell in some time).

First of all - it seems to me that you think that simply buying more domains will increase a chance of sale - that's wrong. Buying GOOD names will do, not ANY name. Clean 2 words, popular niches, new trends...

Look even at ''Report Sales'' section - you see, roughly for each 8-10 sales in .com you have 1-2 in xyz and 1-2 in other extensions (you can do lots of this analytics at NameBio). Then look at your portfolio, you only have 35 names in .com and the rest in some ''weirdos''.... So, end users buying .com, and you have almost none - how do you expect to sell all these absolutely weird extensions you have, like ''.at''? No end user ever heard of such tld...

Please stop buying extensions just because they are available, you are precisely buying the ones that no one needs, and key words are not even good. If you want to stay in this game please read and analyze a lot (I know I am being Captain Obvious, but what else to say here?) And stick to .com only for Christ Sake for the first year at least.
 
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You didn't listen... We want you to safe money and be successful.
Like @DrJacoby said. You are in the position and feeling you stuck because of the quality of your names!

So lets take a look at some other names of your portfolio instead of "allmovie.watch":

1000000000.xyz​

Which company would ever need such name? And why? Name at least one smiliar branding of a company in the world... ?

TheTest.click​

What are the endusers for this name? For what niche could that work?

SkyKruz.com​

"Sky" is a nice keyword but what is a "kruz" ?

NorthRhineWestPhalia.de​

I'm native german and can tell you this will never sell. Again - who are the targeted endusers?

My advise for you: Focus on less TLDs. Registering .xyz, .co,.click, .watch, .best and so on all togehter will not work.
- Follow the golden rule at least for the beginning: .com is king.
- Listen to what experienced domainers write in this forum. @Bob Hawkes for example writes damn awesome blog posts with helpful statistics and graphics. Take a look: https://www.namepros.com/blog/

Read up here:
https://www.namepros.com/blog/popular-blog-articles.1231447/

Start with this:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/popular-domain-beginner-resources.844937/

And there are a lot of more topics and threads you'll find to get the informations you need to know.
 
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OP most domain sales are real.

@DrJacoby is right.
dont blame him its a bit hard though

Click.Tube is ok but here is tube.Click

If short stick with a dotcom (bearish) long term investment because current market is on recession. Jmho
 
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But what kind of experience do you want people to share? The experience shared is precisely in the ''Report Sales'' section.

I also looked at your portfolio, and it is simply that you don't have good domains (except for a couple unpronounceable 4L that probably will sell in some time).

First of all - it seems to me that you think that simply buying more domains will increase a chance of sale - that's wrong. Buying GOOD names will do, not ANY name. Clean 2 words, popular niches, new trends...

Look even at ''Report Sales'' section - you see, roughly for each 8-10 sales in .com you have 1-2 in xyz and 1-2 in other extensions (you can do lots of this analytics at NameBio). Then look at your portfolio, you only have 35 names in .com and the rest in some ''weirdos''.... So, end users buying .com, and you have almost none - how do you expect to sell all these absolutely weird extensions you have, like ''.at''? No end user ever heard of such tld...

Please stop buying extensions just because they are available, you are precisely buying the ones that no one needs, and key words are not even good. If you want to stay in this game please read and analyze a lot (I know I am being Captain Obvious, but what else to say here?) And stick to .com only for Christ Sake for the first year at least.
Thank you for the reply and thanks for sharing good information. For .at is an international domain Austria. I live in Germany and Austria speak German and it is a neighboring country. So I bought .at and most of these domains have meaning in German. I also have another wallet. This is not all my domains
 
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Thank you for the reply and thanks for sharing good information. For .at is an international domain Austria. I live in Germany and Austria speak German and it is a neighboring country. So I bought .at and most of these domains have meaning in German. I also have another wallet. This is not all my domains

Meaning in German (or any other languages, except English) alone doesn't mean the popularity of a domain name. It simply means a market of end users that is hundreds or thousand times smaller than for English words... Same advice - stick to .com till you master it, then you can go to any extension you want - you'll be understanding the needs of these local tlds much better.
 
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You didn't listen... We want you to safe money and be successful.
Like @DrJacoby said. You are in the position and feeling you stuck because of the quality of your names!

So lets take a look at some other names of your portfolio instead of "allmovie.watch":

1000000000.xyz​

Which company would ever need such name? And why? Name at least one smiliar branding of a company in the world... ?

TheTest.click​

What are the endusers for this name? For what niche could that work?

SkyKruz.com​

"Sky" is a nice keyword but what is a "kruz" ?

NorthRhineWestPhalia.de​

I'm native german and can tell you this will never sell. Again - who are the targeted endusers?

My advise for you: Focus on less TLDs. Registering .xyz, .co,.click, .watch, .best and so on will not work. Listen to what experienced domainers write in this forum. @Bob Hawkes for example writes damn awesome blog posts with helpful statistics and grafics. Take a look: https://www.namepros.com/blog/

Read up here:
https://www.namepros.com/blog/popular-blog-articles.1231447/

Start with this:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/popular-domain-beginner-resources.844937/

And there are a lot of more topics and threads you'll find to get the informations you need to know.
- 1000000000.xyz This domain does not make sense and dos not meaning any thing that it is a joke, I bought it hoping it brings me luck because I dream of having 1 billion dollars :ROFL:. Leave this domain
- TheTest.click: The Test its meaning full
- SkyKruz.com: There is a project for a flying hotel in the future that can accommodate 5000 people and is equipped with swimming pools, restaurants, and games halls, and it works with nuclear energy, and its name is Sky Cruise. You can search the Internet for it.
- NorthRhineWestPhalia.de : I live in Germany and the name of my region is North Rhine-Westphalia and this region includes many famous cities such as Cologne, Dortmund, Essen, Dusseldorf and others
 
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- TheTest.click: The Test its meaning full
TheTest.com yes - but thetest.click? Not at all.

- SkyKruz.com: There is a project for a flying hotel in the future that can accommodate 5000 people and is equipped with swimming pools, restaurants, and games halls, and it works with nuclear energy, and its name is Sky Cruise. You can search the Internet for it.
SkyCruise.com hot - SkyCruize could work too. SkyKruz is heavy misspelled and veeery hard to sell imo.

- NorthRhineWestPhalia.de : I live in Germany and the name of my region is North Rhine-Westphalia and this region includes many famous cities such as Cologne, Dortmund, Essen, Dusseldorf and others
Again. Which enduser will need that?
Is lowersaxony.de (Niedersachsen) a developed Business? Or mecklenburgwesternpomerania.de (Mecklenburg-Vorpommern)? No. Because no one will ever use (and buy) this names.
 
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OP my Afternic sales
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My portfolio was around 1000 mostly dotcoms. I have no sales on Godaddy since February 2022. I also have successful experience with Dan.com before 2022.

Domains are like gems (virtual real estate) not stocks or cryptos.
 
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inYes, I am a pessimist and I want to speak and express my feelings! Because I did not see anyone criticizing here, but all the topics are positive and sales reports, am I the only one thinking in this way?
Thank you for having the courage to speak up.

First, I understand that you are getting much guidance on why those domain choices appear unwise. I'll leave that point to the pros more familiar with valuations.

For the moment, let me address your comment about the false sales reports on NamePros. Many high-value domain sales are reported here and sometimes for names that probably most of us wouldn't even give 2 cents for. And some of them do appear to be false.

This is not a harmless issue. After all, who wouldn't want to have those types of returns. So, individuals may be tempted unwittingly to spend money on domains they even don't find that appealing, but just want to make that type of sale.

There is no actual verification process here for the reported sales. And even the extremely dubious "sales" are still allowed to remain posted--even after being called out.

For example, @bmugford had called out a recent "$381K" sale. The report was posted 9/20 in the Domain Industry News section. The next day, Brad astutely pointed out that "this is a bunch of nonsense....if you go to the domain in the browser, it takes you to a page with a $381,000 BIN." It is not credible that someone bought the domain for $381K, and now was trying to sell it for exactly the same price on a marketplace. Yet now, almost two weeks later, that Domain Industry News posting remains up.

At a minimum, one would hope that NamePros could have a mechanism for either removing or at least providing some disclaimer on these likely false sales reports.
 
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TheTest.com yes - but thetest.click? Not at all.


SkyCruise.com hot - SkyCruize could work too. SkyKruz is super misspelled and veeery hard to sell imo.


Again. Which enduser will need that?
Is lowersaxony.de (Niedersachsen) a developed Business? Or mecklenburgwesternpomerania.de (Mecklenburg-Vorpommern)? No. Because no one will ever use (and buy) this names.
why thetest.click its online test you have to click
skycruise i have SkyCruis.com and SkyCruise.us also
North Rhine-Westphalia. is the name of a region Is it possible that no one is interested in it??
 
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Thank you for having the courage to speak up.

First, I understand that you are getting much guidance on why those domain choices appear unwise. I'll leave that point to the pros more familiar with valuations.

For the moment, let me address your comment about the false sales reports on NamePros. Many high-value domain sales are reported here and sometimes for names that probably most of us wouldn't even give 2 cents for. And some of them do appear to be false.

This is not a harmless issue. After all, who wouldn't want to have those types of returns. So, individuals may be tempted unwittingly to spend money on domains they even don't find that appealing, but just want to make that type of sale.

There is no actual verification process here for the reported sales. And even the extremely dubious "sales" are still allowed to remain posted--even after being called out.

For example, @bmugford had called out a recent "$381K" sale. The report was posted 9/20 in the Domain Industry News section. The next day, Brad astutely pointed out that "this is a bunch of nonsense....if you go to the domain in the browser, it takes you to a page with a $381,000 BIN." It is not credible that someone bought the domain for $381K, and now was trying to sell it for exactly the same price on a marketplace. Yet now, almost two weeks later, that Domain Industry News posting remains up.

At a minimum, one would hope that NamePros could have a mechanism for either removing or at least providing some disclaimer on these likely false sales reports.
Thank you very very much for this comment. You get exactly what I mean
 
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Thank you very very much for this comment. You get exactly what I mean
Yes, your posting was to address the issue about how the seemingly "hyped-up" sales promote buying domains. The domains you bought were ones that probably you never would have considered until you read about some of the extraordinary sales here on NamePros.
 
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North Rhine-Westphalia. is the name of a region Is it possible that no one is interested in it??

If ... noordrijnwestfalen.de , noordrijn-westfalen.de, noordrijnwestfalen.com, noordrijn-westfalen.com is available (not registered) than North Rhine-Westphalia doesn't make any sense.

For DE = Noordrijn-Westfalen or dot NRW

Regards
 
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