question Domains on market for a week, no offers.

[PhilTheChill]

Hi everyone!

First, I know that question/topic has probably been asked more times than there's . COM domains but I'm new to this (like brand new) I read A LOT in the past weeks but this business seems to be all about ''make your own discoveries''.
Still, no harm in asking experienced domainers what they think I'm doing wrong.
Now, mind you, I have only 9 domains that I (stupidly) hand-picked using Verisign. ( STRIKE! I guess :P )

Here are my domain names.

cashjinn
gamedivisions
globaleffective
globaleffectives
globalresponsible
guiltygames
instant-lenders (I know... the ''-'' is a HUGE nogo)
megamoneyslots
silverstarpoker

All of them are . COMs.

OK so in a post made here I read:

RULE#1: always stick to dot coms (CHECK)
RULE#2: Is it brandable? if not, don't buy (mmm mostly check!)
RULE#3: No ''negative'' words ( Guiltygames would be a nogo then but I feel it's a good one tho ... sounds good IMO)
RULE#4: shorter the better. (Well not many short .coms remaining... that was before I learned about dropped domains)

Anyway. From day 1, I put them for sale at Godaddy, Afternic, Sedo, and Dan ...
No views in ANY except Sedo.. where they are parked (probably for that same reason I guess)
Sedo views are like : 15-20 daily Uniques and 5-10 a day Offer Views... that said, I read that views mean Sweet F*** A** .. so wtv

Needless to say that I received no offers either...

They have been up for 1 week.

Question #1: Are these names ok or my ''noobness'' made me feel that they were when they actually suck?
Question#2: If they are ok, what would be your suggestion to help with the offers (if those tips actually exist)
Question#3: Should I wait and stick to my prices? ( OH ... speaking of prices... I priced them based on similar names I found in the markets mentioned above... that said, I later learned that the domain's age is a MAJOR factor for potential buyers.)

Anyway, excuse my incessant rambling XD and more importantly, thank you for your feedback!


-Phil- 2021 noob domainer!

 

[Silentptnr]

The first few I checked are brand new registrations from this year. It can take years to sell domains.

Personally, I'm not feeling them. That doesn't mean you won't sell them, it's just I don't think they are very good.

Best of luck!

 

[PhilTheChill]

The first few I checked are brand new registrations from this year. It can take years to sell domains.

Personally, I'm not feeling them. That doesn't mean you won't sell them, it's just I don't think they are very good.

Best of luck!

Thank you for your reply!

Yes, all of them are brand new, which was my first mistake.

I fear that even if some of them sound good (for my taste at least), they are pretty weak.

They do seem to generate views like I said. But it seems only offers count and I don't think I'll ever get any

Since I'm stuck with them for a year, I'll at least try to sell them to get what I paid for... if possible XD if not, well, I tried :P

Mistakes leads to success!

 

[Silentptnr]

Thank you for your reply!

Yes, all of them are brand new, which was my first mistake.

I fear that even if some of them sound good (for my taste at least), they are pretty weak.

They do seem to generate views like I said. But it seems only offers count and I don't think I'll ever get any

Since I'm stuck with them for a year, I'll at least try to sell them to get what I paid for... if possible XD if not, well, I tried :P

Mistakes leads to success!

It's okay that they are new, but it's harder to get much for new names.

 

[PhilTheChill]

It's okay that they are new, but it's harder to get much for new names.

So, to clarify, if a 5-10yrs old domain named for example ''cashzip'' would get offers for XXXXX$ asked price, what would be a realistic price tag for a brand new unproven domain in your opinion?

Is there a ''known'' ratio per age or something?

 

[Samer]

i like your attitude, Phil.

We need more positivity of noobs like you, combined with your humble attitude.

Your willingness to learn is evident, you’re already so ahead of rest since 100% com

That said One week, is wayyyyy to short.
You need to also have “BIN” to expedite, and recommend list DAN, Sedo, Afternic epik etc.
You fail to list which markets you listed & BIN.
(recommend BIN’s under $2000, consider 499) The impulse can sometimes be real!

LIST ALL MARKETS!! (Cant be overstated)
Good luck, Phil! I could tell you’ve been reading last few weeks, profession is so hard, but oh so rewarding, keep building,

Good luck, i’ll be following you, and hope you continue to built slowly, surely quality supply, like investing in the stock market. “keep buldin”

 

[Future Sensors]

Hi @PhilTheChill

It's more like this. In the early days, the best one-word dictionary domains in .com were still available for new registration. Not today. Today, you have to be way more creative with two words, or acquire older domains in the aftermarket.

 

[PhilTheChill]

i like your attitude, Phil.

We need more positivity of noobs like you, combined with your humble attitude.

Your willingness to learn is evident, you’re already so ahead of rest since 100% com

That said One week, is wayyyyy to short.
You need to also have “BIN” to expedite, and recommend list DAN, Sedo, Afternic etc.
You fail to list which markets you listed & BIN.
(recommend BIN’s under $2000, consider 499) The impulse can sometimes be real!

LIST ALL MARKETS!! (Cant be overstated)
Good luck, Phil! I could tell you’ve been reading these last few weeks, profession is so hard, but oh so rewarding keep building,

Thank you for the good words , that's encouraging as hell !!!

You're right , I do need to learn patience XD not my biggest strength I must admit !

I have set all my domains with a BIN and ''make an offer''. And yes this profession seem really hard, but it's really challenging and i love that !

 

[PhilTheChill]

Hi @PhilTheChill

It's more like this. In the early days, the best one-word dictionary domains in .com were still available for new registration. Not today. Today, you have to be way more creative with two words, or acquire older domains in the aftermarket.

Thank you for your reply

Oh, I see !

Basically, I was not creative enough OR I don't understand the market enough to be creative ''in a good way''

As for Aftermarket, I learned of its existence 2 days after I bought my domains... I won't do the same mistake again!

 

[PhilTheChill]

Hi @PhilTheChill

It's more like this. In the early days, the best one-word dictionary domains in .com were still available for new registration. Not today. Today, you have to be way more creative with two words, or acquire older domains in the aftermarket.

I started checking on ExpiredDomains, is it a good place to check?

 

[Future Sensors]

I started checking on ExpiredDomains, is it a good place to check?

It is, but note that there are a lot of bad domains expiring on a daily basis. You still have to be very picky. And compete ($$$) with other domainers for the best domains.

 

[PhilTheChill]

It is, but note that there are a lot of bad domains expiring on a daily basis. You still have to be very picky. And compete ($$$) with other domainers for the best domains.

Ok, I'll keep that in mind! Thank you!


From what @Silentptnr said, I'll just try to sell my actual domains to at least make my money back since there are VERY LITTLE chances to sell them for even 50$-100$.

 

[PhilTheChill]

Should I leave my BIN and remove my minimum offers ?

or

Lower my BIN to like ... 100$ and ask a minimum of 15$ (to cover my expenses)

or

Just consider them losses and move on to the next domains ?


LOL I'm sorry for all my questions guys... Pricing is an issue for me (for all noobs i suppose)

 

[VadimK]

First of all - one week is nothing. Consider it's luck if you sell a domain with a 6 months. But as said above it can easily take years.
List it to all markets, where possible.
Put BIN (don't go Make Offers), min offer is up to you, but for such names I would have minimum offer, well... to a minimum.
Don't consider them losses, consider them an experience.
Don't go plural (GlobalEffective is already more than enough...). That's actually a perfect example of a name with no niche word. Like, what's it about? Who is the end use, the target? So, always put yourself in your clients shoes - would you buy such a domain and with what goal in your mind? If you can't answer - don't buy such domains.
The best domain you have there is GuiltyGames - this one is sellable - not bad for a newbie at all.

Good Luck!!

 

[PhilTheChill]

First of all - one week is nothing. Consider it's luck if you sell a domain with a 6 months. But as said above it can easily take years.
List it to all markets, where possible.
Put BIN (don't go Make Offers), min offer is up to you, but for such names I would have minimum offer, well... to a minimum.
Don't consider them losses, consider them an experience.
Don't go plural (GlobalEffective is already more than enough...). That's actually a perfect example of a name with no niche word. Like, what's it about? Who is the end use, the target? So, always put yourself in your clients shoes - would you buy such a domain and with what goal in your mind? If you can't answer - don't buy such domains.
The best domain you have there is GuiltyGames - this one is sellable - not bad for a newbie at all.

Good Luck!!

thank you for the reply.

Good advices!!

I’ll go change my prices and since I won’t do anything good with those names I’ll put minimum offer to a minimum at least to try and cover my expenses.

next time I’ll research better !

I did not meant losses in a negative way, I meant it like they won’t sell at all so I better prepare to that eventuality and make better research/buyer’s choices in the future!

 

[PhilTheChill]

i like your attitude, Phil.

We need more positivity of noobs like you, combined with your humble attitude.

Your willingness to learn is evident, you’re already so ahead of rest since 100% com

That said One week, is wayyyyy to short.
You need to also have “BIN” to expedite, and recommend list DAN, Sedo, Afternic epik etc.
You fail to list which markets you listed & BIN.
(recommend BIN’s under $2000, consider 499) The impulse can sometimes be real!

LIST ALL MARKETS!! (Cant be overstated)
Good luck, Phil! I could tell you’ve been reading last few weeks, profession is so hard, but oh so rewarding, keep building,

Good luck, i’ll be following you, and hope you continue to built slowly, surely quality supply, like investing in the stock market. “keep buldin”

Saw just now that you edited your previous post.

so you suggest I put my BIN price between 2000$ and 499$ ?

@VadimK Iberica said GuiltyGames is an ok one that could sell , do you think this one is closer to 2000$ ? The rest at 1000$ and less.

Finally, should add a “make an offer” or just BIN ?

thank you again for you time

 

[lock]

A whole week eh better bail out like shares.

 

[PhilTheChill]

A whole week eh better bail out like shares.

Thank you for the reply but, I must admit, I hardly see how your comment is constructive?
Tbh, it sounds more condescending than anything but wtv .

If you meant that a week is not enough, yes I learned that from replies on this post.

If you meant something else, would you be so kind to elaborate more please?

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

How did you discover domaining?
What made you think you buy names and flip them weekly?
Your names are not bad, but i’d like to know how you found domaining and namepros
Best of luck

 

[twiki]

Focus on pre-owned .coms. Head to ExpiredDomains.com and make camp there first of all.

A ton of .coms get dropped today and there are a ton of sellable domains which don't get caught quick.

Edit: These names are very weak, I would try selling them for $100, not more.

Otherwise you might not get anything back. Or keep them for 6 months at $150 or $199 and if unsold go lower.

You might sell none of them (or one) but that's like the starting point of almost everyone in this business.

 

[PhilTheChill]

How did you discover domaining?
What made you think you buy names and flip them weekly?
Your names are not bad, but i’d like to know how you found domaining and namepros
Best of luck

Thank you for your reply!

I discovered Domaining through a blog post on online income (don't remember which one tho).

But the said post was not super detailed but enough to make me curious so I went and read another blog post. In this blog (sadly) they only talked about success stories, on how ppl bought domains for 20$ and flipped them for 20K$... omitting that they help those domains for 10 yrs lol. So that gave me the false impression that this market was volatile and super active... which can't be farther from the truth!

Thank you for saying my names are not bad, though it seems to vary a lot from ppl to ppl. Some hate them (like @twiki ), others simply don't feel them and others think they're not bad. It shows how the market is really built. It shows me that you can't ask questions for tips and stuff like that since there are so many variables that it makes it almost impossible to predict if a domain sells or not... at least, from what I know!

I found about Namepros while reading and trying to understand this market more. I stumbled upon a blog that praised Namepros a lot, so I came here and checked. @Bob Hawkes is a freaking gold mine of information, love the guy !!

 

[PhilTheChill]

Focus on pre-owned .coms. Head to ExpiredDomains.com and make camp there first of all.

A ton of .coms get dropped today and there are a ton of sellable domains which don't get caught quick.

Edit: These names are very weak, I would try selling them for $100, not more.

Otherwise you might not get anything back. Or keep them for 6 months at $150 or $199 and if unsold go lower.

You might sell none of them (or one) but that's like the starting point of almost everyone in this business.

Thank you for the reply!

The weak names seem to vary depending on who I ask lol but, I fully understand that these are not premium at all .
'll keep your advice in mind, thank you

 

[Bob Hawkes]

only talked about success stories, on how ppl bought domains for 20$ and flipped them for 20K$...

Thanks for your comments. If I have a pet peeve, it is sites, books, articles etc. that give the impression domain flipping for big gain is fast, easy and assured. It creates unrealistic expectations. Making money with domain names is hard work, and requires much patience, to make even a modest profit, and many will end up losing money in domain names.

There are, for sure, impressive success stories, including by those who have not been in it many years. We can all learn by seeing what they are doing and how we might adapt it to our own situation. But, as you note, there are a huge number more of stories that people wait a long time to sell, even to recover their expenses. Or many names will not sell, ever.

The very best wishes for success. Patience is a virtue in domain investing.

Bob

 

[PhilTheChill]

Thanks for your comments. If I have a pet peeve, it is sites, books, articles etc. that give the impression domain flipping for big gain is fast, easy and assured. It creates unrealistic expectations...

Exactly, that's in my humble opinion, sensationalism articles for a few more clicks... and it works

I see it that way: It cost me 200$ to learn the hard way that this business is hard and that it's nowhere near ''passive''. If I make my money back, superb, if not, it's alright. Starting a business is always risky to lose money.

Let me throw you a few more flowers though Mr. Hawkes...

With ppl like you, who brings to light quality information and data, it helps noobs like me to understand more subtle things (abstract even) and it beneficiate the veterans too since your work is really thorough and accurate!

It is I who should thank you, mister!

 

[biggie]

I discovered Domaining through a blog post on online income (don't remember which one tho).

But the said post was not super detailed but enough to make me curious so I went and read another blog post. In this blog (sadly) they only talked about success stories, on how ppl bought domains for 20$ and flipped them for 20K$... omitting that they help those domains for 10 yrs lol. So that gave me the false impression that this market was volatile and super active... which can't be farther from the truth!

If I have a pet peeve, it is sites, books, articles etc. that give the impression domain flipping for big gain is fast, easy and assured. It creates unrealistic expectations. Making money with domain names is hard work, and requires much patience, to make even a modest profit, and many will end up losing money in domain names.

Hi

i think your post about how you found domaining
and Bob's "pet peeve" quote, which i agree with -
are the main reasons why newbies enter the game with very high expectations of sales, in short a period of time.

had you known the truth beforehand, it may have made the difference in your list.

just chalk this one up as part of the learning curve and move on.

Good Luck!

imo....