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Am I the only one that feels the numbers and values are looking suspicious. Given xyz history with using smokes and mirrors to market the name space I am a bit sceptical but can be convinced otherwise.
What is your gut feel? Last 2 weeks sales from same person Swetha DNGear
beacon.xyz $24,888
Genisis.xyz $21,399
Patron.xyz $9,888
Protocol.xyz $8,000
Split.xyz $7,888
 
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You obviously havent sent a name to DNJ to get the sale listed on their sales report. Its really not worth the hassle of forging the document, it doesnt earn you anything.
I didn't mention DNJ, I didn't point anyone.
I just wanted to proof that screenshots are not reliable at all.
 
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If you can't see what you have done is wrong then that's on you, there are ways to mask a post, thread etc to discuss issues without it being picked by the search engines........just means you have to think a little beforehand, something you failed to do in this case......

As far as I'm concerned the sales are legit and I'm grateful she takes the time to share them......

For the others on here discussing her ROI etc - that's her business, she does not have to share anything she doesn't want to.........
It’s a forum, a space to discuss notions, opinions and open debate with like minded people. I put the motion ‘the sales are legit’ from that we discuss and vote. It’s been the platform for centuries to debate and to persuade people. Free speech in a democratic society.
 
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You obviously havent sent a name to DNJ to get the sale listed on their sales report. Its really not worth the hassle of forging the document, it doesnt earn you anything.
No one is suggesting the documents are not valid.
 
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Hi @gilescoley , the premise of my thinking was if only one person is achieving these sales, it’s very easy to create sales between xyz register and a friendly domainer, in that xyz funds the sale but the domainer gives the money back minus commissions for both the selling platform and domainer. Therefore show screen shots ‘legitimacy’. Don’t cost a lot but creates a lot of hype. Importantly no end user sale no actual use of the domain.
I am a sceptic in this industry given being burnt by Adam Dicker and front running, dead beats, farce at snap names, dicker bidding on goddady auctions whilst an employee, the stuffing of newGTLDs, MMX booking income on Chinese domains that never materialised. It’s a minefield out there. 😁😁

Its not hard to do a bit of research using the WHOIS and see who owns the names now. Compare the WHOIS modified dates to to when the sale happened and you will see the sales are legit. This is not the only person maing xyz sales, I have seen sales on linkedIn, Reddit, Twitter and other domain platforms too, you will see more sales from this domainer as you are on Namepros where here/his sales are posted. The Adam Dicker saga is a little different to this though, there is loads of evidence of these sales.

Just a few sales from the first page of Namebio that are developed sites.

Soteria.zyx - Developed
Beacon.xyz - being developed
Switchboard.xyz - Developed
Nightshift.xyz. - Developed
Islands.xyz - Developed
Spectre.xyz - Developed
Pallet.xyz - Developed
Cohesive.xyz - Developed
Metaverse - Developed
Motive.xyz - Developed
Arya.xyz - Developed
 
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This is sad and why so many people have left namepros.Welcome back after 2 years @betthelot
Your on prime time Swetha, right up there with Brett and the big boys. Keep kicking butt, I doubt most everything but I have no doubt your legit.

https://domainnamewire.com/2021/04/12/this-domain-investor-has-rocked-it-with-xyz/
@DomainNameWire someone was looking for you and couldnt find your username other day, anyways, I see all the comments in your post are kind and positive. Did you delete any negative ones?
 
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I did not vote in the poll because I think the initial post should be deleted. It is not only unfair to a NamePros member, but it is harmful to our community and domain investors in general.

By saying "it looks suspicious" the original post went well beyond reasonable informed comment. By including her username and name in thread title makes it even worse. These sales are well authenticated - took place at major marketplaces (Afternic, DAN, SquadHelp, perhaps Sedo too). They were authenticated by NameBio. She even shared screenshots on social media.

We should be celebrating @DNGear for having a long term plan, daring to be innovative and define her own path, sticking with the plan when many would have given up, having the insight to see what sort of names have value, and the confidence to ask, and get, good prices. She is the sort of person who is propelling domain investing forward. That she also interacts with NamePros is to the benefit of us all.

Congratulations on your sales @DNGear and best wishes for many more

Bob
 
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If you can't see what you have done is wrong then that's on you, there are ways to mask a post, thread etc to discuss issues without it being picked by the search engines........just means you have to think a little beforehand, something you failed to do in this case......

As far as I'm concerned the sales are legit and I'm grateful she takes the time to share them......

For the others on here discussing her ROI etc - that's her business, she does not have to share anything she doesn't want to.........

cant u read? nobody ever asked her to share her roi... I just said without knowing it it is insane and irrelevant to conclude a given strategy is working or not..or..how well it's working.

this goes for all domainers

our individual sales only matter if roi after renewals etc is good.

this goes for u..me..Rick s... and everyone. I wonder why people dont get this.. sometimes on sale thread a guy posts sale ..without saying what it cost him..so no idea about roi...and he goes 50k..and everyone is like wow...super amazing ...yet the best seller..

but what what if he paid it 45k... do u have any idea.how much easier it's to sell a name paid 45k for 50k than to sell name paid 1k for 50k..

this is why roi is crucial..for individual sales... and for overall strategy ..come end of year..

anyway.. hope people see the importance.
 
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I believe the sales are real.

One thing I'm surprised by is that the buyers aren't securing the .com. For example beaco*xyz.com. They are available for handreg.
There is no value to be gained from it, imo. Their brand is Beaco*, and based on the .xyz extension. Their brand is not Beaco*XYZ.
 
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cant u read? nobody ever asked her to share her roi... I just said without knowing it it is insane and irrelevant to conclude a given strategy is working or not..or..how well it's working.

this goes for all domainers

our individual sales only matter if roi after renewals etc is good.

this goes for u..me..Rick s... and everyone. I wonder why people dont get this.. sometimes on sale thread a guy posts sale ..without saying what it cost him..so no idea about roi...and he goes 50k..and everyone is like wow...super amazing ...yet the best seller..

but what what if he paid it 45k... do u have any idea.how much easier it's to sell a name paid 45k for 50k than to sell name paid 1k for 50k..

this is why roi is crucial..for individual sales... and for overall strategy ..come end of year..

anyway.. hope people see the importance.
I am partial to a bit of reading and I agree it is important.....but you do go on and on about it :xf.wink:

I think everyone knows how you feel - maybe you can stop with roi baiting/bashing for a bit?
 
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This thread is started in very malicious tone and placing another member’s username with a first name in the title is even worse. I guess only her address is missing.

As for the frequency of her sales, I would ask myself another question. How many domainers I know holding over 16k of quality 1-word .xyz domains? I would say none. Not even 10%. Just my 2c.
 
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Happy for the name to appear everywhere else and the vote is 80% it’s legit and I am a bore😒

I am really amazed when someone posts such a question especially when @DNGear always post screenshots of her sales whether she is selling at afternic, dan or squadhelp. She is Queen of XYZ and accumulating these domains in the past many years when no one was interested in them and the result is currently she is having more than 16000 of XYZ domain names some are as good as Gold.

Sometimes I seriously think our community really need a Thought Leader who can think independently and provide honest guidance to our small community. Why because this type of question was never raised for .CO and .IO

Do you really know the country code .IO geographical location or any leader from this ccTLD?
Do you know that a piece of land in the Indian Ocean has only 3000 people?
Do you know that as per UN Tribunal this land belongs to Mauritius and not to the United Kingdom?
Do you know that in the next few years this land will transfer to Mauritius just like Hong Kong?

Given these backgrounds, you can imagine the SEO, Google search reputation and future prospects of IO extension. Still, the IO extension is selling at record price every passing day, why? Because of the sentimental value or perceived value because investor or entrepreneur think it as "I Own"

In branding, perception plays an important role sometimes more than the real value. BitCoin and recent rise of DogeCoin are some of few examples.

Now coming back to XYZ extension, first about Swetha of course she has the best collection of XYZ domain names and volume thus definitely, she has a better probability of sales. Now why XYZ is selling like a hot cake, if you observe carefully XYZ represents many options, providing you alternative x, y or z. An important and trending features of today where technology, people and society is moving from a centralised system to a decentralised system. No wonder most of these domains are acquired by cryptocurrencies, NFTs, DeFi and Blockchain related companies and the best part is all are owned by end-users and currently live. So unlike other extensions, it is used by the end-users.

Unlike many others being suspicious about her achievements, I get inspiration. I observed, carefully reviewed these sales feature and thereafter based on my own conviction started building my small XYZ portfolio. I invest in .com and normally avoid investing in IO or CO but I truly believe in this extension, I may be wrong but I am ready to take that risk.

Thank you Swetha @DNGear for inspiring us and following your own gut feeling. It really needs the courage to go ahead against the trend and conventional wisdom and we are proud that you are doing this single handle with .XYZ from last 5 years.

Thank you!
 
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Do you really know the country code .IO geographical location or any leader from this ccTLD?
Do you know that a piece of land in the Indian Ocean has only 3000 people?
Do you know that as per UN Tribunal this land belongs to Mauritius and not to the United Kingdom?
Do you know that in the next few years this land will transfer to Mauritius just like Hong Kong?

The Chagos Islands won't be going anywhere in the next few years.......
 
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It's time to learn to make money with your own ideas.
Don't try to copy, because trying to buy some .xyz will not work. Such extensions need massive investment to get some profit.
I totally disagree with this tactic. Each seller has his special skills and secrets and talking to newcomers don't try this at home. Top tier investors like @Federer know very well what they are doing.
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At the end of the day, the hunt of ''what he/she sold'' can be more harmful than helpful, especially for people who don't want to work. Try to find your own signature guys and this kind of threads have a negative taste for sure.
 
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I don't need to read the link......

Refer to to the Maritime Court ruling back in January - The U.K said it did not recognise the judgement as they took no part in the proceedings......that's how it stands and will continue to do so for quite some time......

Fair enough...I had no intention to hurt your or any colleagues from the UK sentiments. Just giving an example of an extension with a background which can't be considered as a strong (SEO, Google ranking) and still registering record sale.

Best wishes :)
 
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Fair enough...I had no intention to hurt your or any colleagues from the UK sentiments. Just giving an example of an extension with a background which can't be considered as a strong (SEO, Google ranking) and still registering record sale.

Best wishes :)
The UK government is in the wrong imo - I'm not blinded by any sentimental nationalistic crap, but I'm taking the thread off track so will stop :xf.wink:
 
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I don't really have any reason to believe the sales are not legit, but outside her sales it seems like .XYZ is almost a dead extension.

She has a massive quantity of single word terms. It is a law of averages.
With that many solid terms, priced and listed on major venues, some will sell even in bad extensions.

The key is the sales need to outpace the renewals. The small % you do sell needs to outweigh the costs of the vast majority that you don't sell in a given year.

Brad
 
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I don't really have any reason to believe the sales are not legit, but outside her sales it seems like .XYZ is almost a dead extension.

She has a massive quantity of single word terms. It is a law of averages.
With that many solid terms, priced and listed on major venues, some will sell even in bad extensions.

The key is the sales need to outpace the renewals. The small % you do sell needs to outweigh the costs of the vast majority that you don't sell in a given year.

Brad
I touched upon this above....the roi element for the purpose of this thread is irrelevant, not saying it isn't important (it is) but the OP has set this thread up in such a way as to question the validity of her sales.....it's not about roi.....
 
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I touched upon this above....the roi element for the purpose of this thread is irrelevant, not saying it isn't important (it is) but the OP has set this thread up in such a way as to question the validity of her sales.....it's not about roi.....

I agree. My point is just if you own a lot of single word terms in any extension, you will sell some of them.

They are only reporting the less than 1% that sell, not the 99% that don't sell. It is the same reason people question Mike Mann's sales.

Some people who don't deal in large portfolios don't really understand law of averages. It might look suspicious to some because of that.

You can sell domains at high prices if you own enough domains and have a low sell-through rate.

Brad
 
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I agree. My point is just if you own a lot of single word terms in any extension, you will sell some of them.

They are only reporting the less than 1% that sell, not the 99% that don't sell. It is the same reason people question Mike Mann's sales.

It might look suspicious to some because of that.

You can sell domains at high prices if you own enough domains and have a low sell-through rate.

Brad
OK- that makes sense, didn't realise people think suspiciously like that......

Edit - kinda fuc**d up thinking about it....especially when proof has been provided
 
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OK- that makes sense, didn't realise people think suspiciously like that......

Edit - kinda fuc**d up thinking about it....

I have seen multiple people question Mike Mann's sales in the past as well.

He owns 350,000+ domains and reports the better sales.

Selling a small amount of domains for high prices on that type of scale is not that surprising IMO.

But, in fairness to people questioning them...There have been a lot of fake reported sales in the past meant to influence people. There have also been transactions that did not pass the smell test, things reported as sales that were more likes leases, or "sales" where you are basically putting money from one pocket into the other pocket.

I would be careful with the accusations unless you have something solid to back it up. Especially since this a smaller player, and it could damage their business.

Brad
 
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OK- that makes sense, didn't realise people think suspiciously like that......

In some ways, this forum isn't much different from the many searches people do for celebs' net worth. And even then you usually only see the positive things, not the struggles.

DNGear: I believe your story and wish you every success in continuing this success :xf.smile:
 
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