question Any Vax side effects?

[topdom]

Mods, please don't bury this message by moving it elsewhere, yet

Did you or anyone you know get a covid vax? Any side effects?
Asking because I heard of thousands of deaths,
and hundreds of thousands of adverse side effects.

These are official records, but they can still be faked , as part of
revolution.. and vaxes may have been replaced with water.
this is my only hope for brainwashed people.

 

[Joe N]

No, no side effects at all. That's because I would NEVER take any of these dangerous, rushed to market vaccines. I trust my own immune system, it works just fine

Just out of curiosity... you're suggesting that these vaccines didn't go through the necessary tests to ensure they're safe?

 

[mjbenterprises]

Just out of curiosity... you're suggesting that these vaccines didn't go through the necessary tests to ensure they're safe?

I'm not just suggesting that, that's exactly what happened.

 

[Cannuck]

I'm not just suggesting that, that's exactly what happened.

Multiple misleading suggestions made in documentary on the COVID-19 pandemic

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-reset-idUSKBN29O228

Details regarding vaccine testing:

https://investors.modernatx.com/new...-publication-new-england-journal-medicine-non

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-05-22-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-begin-phase-iiiii-human-trials

 

[Joe N]

I'm not just suggesting that, that's exactly what happened.

Do you have any material we can read to validate that opinion?

 

[topdom]

You may want to press on a liver point to process some of your pent up toxic anger which creates disease....

Try applying some pressure on the dorsal surface of your foot, between the first and second toes, distal to the metatarso-phalangeal joint of the big toe.

I have a another question then (the first one was asking whether you would take rabies vaccine after dog bite):

We can't remember where to apply pressure on our bodies for which effect. So does it make sense to apply pressure to all our body (or all areas of our feet at least) for maximum benefit?

 

[topdom]

Do you have any material we can read to validate that opinion?

What safety are we talking about. They intentionally put bio and chemo poisons for genocide purposes in those "vaccines".. and there are thousands of deaths as covid vaccine side effects (I mean, according to official records in US and UK). If nothing bad happened, this would just mean Trump replaced them with something good.

The whole purpose of this corona hoax is
1. genocide
2. slavery

 

[Mike Goodman]

What safety are we talking about. They intentionally put bio and chemo poisons for genocide purposes in those "vaccines".. and there are thousands of deaths as covid vaccine side effects (I mean, according to official records in US and UK). If nothing bad happened, this would just mean Trump replaced them with something good.

Simply put, you cannot substantiate this nonsense. If you are so neurotic as to believe one word of any of it, including Trump being allowed close enough to mess about with vaccines or any form of public immunology, it is you who should be seeking medical advice, of the psychological variety.

 

[Mike Goodman]

I am only denying what the devil (may he be cursed)

So we get to the bottom of it. Religious dogma. Not a shred of science or evidence of any kind. That kind of evangelism has done untold harm over the centuries and continues to do so.

 

[topdom]

Simply put, you cannot substantiate this nonsense. If you are so neurotic as to believe one word of any of it, including Trump being allowed close enough to mess about with vaccines or any form of public immunology, it is you who should be seeking medical advice, of the psychological variety.

UK covid vaccine side effects including deaths is linked from this page:

https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-19th-april-2021

The same thing for US:

https://vernoncoleman.org/articles/how-many-people-are-vaccines-killing

for example see this: https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data


These are official records, and not everything is reported.

Can it be the case that Trump may have replaced
those vaccines with innocent stuff?
There was a video about it but I can't locate it now.
It must be linked from here:
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/jcOs2EA1BUJH/

Of course there is not enough reason to believe such a claim just because
it is mentioned in one of Nick's videos. But after learning from this thread
there are no serious side effects, it becomes more believable.
(and this would also imply that official records have been faked.)

Trump is not alone. There is a cartel=cabal=deepstate and there is an
alliance against it which I call anti-cartel.
The word "Trump" is a nickname for the anti-cartel
in my posts of this thread.

 

[Mike Goodman]

UK covid vaccine side effects including deaths is linked from this page:

These are official records, and not everything is reported.

Where on earth do you get the idea some looney right wing blog is going to quote official figures? Try more independent, science backed media. You can get "The Conversation" daily online for free. If you are interested and intelligent enough you could try the FT and the Economist. Investors and high level policy makers of all political persuasions rely upon them for unbiased reporting. If they get it wrong people lose a lot of money and bad public policy is made. Why rely on screeching nonsense from bigoted fools, blogging without any interest in the truth and without any moral responsibilities?

Your "deep state" is a misrepresentation of "the establishment" (see, for instance, "The State In Capitalist Society", Ralph Milliband, 1969). Whilst the establishment are in the main a complete shower of greedy, selfish, nasty, arrogant and mostly super-rich inbreds, the sort of mystical powers you ascribe to them are mythical. And nothing more.

As is the idiotic talk of extremely powerful gangs of vampire paedophiles. Try looking at something other than Fox News and get out of the echo chamber of its acolytes.

That's enough of sicko Trumpian- and religion-brainwashed nonsense from this thread for me. There are more constructive things to do than sitting here swatting addle-pated nonsense.

 

[topdom]

Original / official source (US):
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html

OpenVaers seems to be turning that data into an easy to understand/search form.
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data

and in the UK here we see (for example)
Pfizer vaccine deaths in UK (bottom of the pdf page for totals)
these are side effects of vaccines, so deaths are from vaccines
according to the govt (not just some random deaths after taking a vaccine).

https://assets.publishing.service.g...NA_Pfizer-BioNTech_vaccine_analysis_print.pdf

These are .gov and .gov.uk sites.

I don't care if the govt is right wing or left wing.
These are official records, and not everything is reported.

I'm not religious. I'm left wing.
Mainstream media is totally owned by the cartel.
They lied on 9/11/2001 in a harmony.
Just this event: 9/11 and lies about it, proves existence of a cartel
which controls almost everything: media, govts, banks,..
If the mainstream media is pushing something down our throats,
then we can know for sure they have an evil agenda.

 

[gilescoley]

I know 2 people that work directly in the vaccine testing industries.They told me people complain that the testing process was far too quick compared to other vaccines. They told me yes, the vaccine roll-out process has been a lot quicker with C19, not because of the testing but because of production/distribution. Billions of dollars have been thrown at this pandemic to get the vaccine rolled out quickly, whereas with other vaccine, the production and disctribution is what has taken the time because of cash/production/logstics etc. They told me the testing for this vaccine has been the same as other vaccines. They told me that people that think vaccines are tested for 3, 5 or 10 years before being rolled out are dreaming.

Just my 2 cents worth... not getting into a debate about it, just telling you what they told me, its up to each indiviual to make up their mind what they believe.

 

[Mike Goodman]

@topdom you have some glimmer of light into the world of high level power, but you have been misled as to where its power comes from and how and why it uses its influences.

Read up on "Military Industrial Complex", a term which used to refer to the influence of the defence industry upon policy makers in any single country or close military alliance. Today it refers specifically to a USA led, mainly financial, confluence of powerful people spread across industrial and financial sectors. It is influenced by and influences the City of London and the "Gnomes of Zurich", among a plethora of other influential, Western, international and national organisations.

It is also worth familiarising yourself with the "Mont Peleron Society" and how we are all submerged and disempowered by corporatism as espoused by Milton Friedman's predecessors such as von Mises, Hayek and Knight. Plus Friedman himself, of course. It would also be worth while finding out its USA equivalent. There most certainly is at least one. I got an inkling once the "Tea Party" or "Boston Tea Party" may be it. A body with that or a similar name is definitely heavily influenced by them.

Those will illustrate for you how the true damage is done and disavow you of the somewhat fanciful ideas of what some international cabal is doing. The groups I mention certainly do collaborate but the individuals involved are far too insular to form any specific campaigns beyond those agreed at their conferences, which are surprisingly open to public view. To suggest they have the level of cooperation or coordination to rig a worldwide vaccine plot, let alone a good enough reason, is straight out of Lalaland.

 

[Joe N]

What safety are we talking about. They intentionally put bio and chemo poisons for genocide purposes in those "vaccines".. and there are thousands of deaths as covid vaccine side effects (I mean, according to official records in US and UK). If nothing bad happened, this would just mean Trump replaced them with something good.

The whole purpose of this corona hoax is
1. genocide
2. slavery

Apologies, I thought this debate was based at least partly in reality. Cool story, though! Can you work in something with zombies next time?

 

[topdom]

Original / official source (US):
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html

OpenVaers seems to be turning that data into an easy to understand/search form.
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data

and in the UK here we see (for example)
Pfizer vaccine deaths in UK (bottom of the pdf page for totals)
these are side effects of vaccines, so deaths are from vaccines
according to the govt (not just some random deaths after taking a vaccine).

https://assets.publishing.service.g...NA_Pfizer-BioNTech_vaccine_analysis_print.pdf

These are .gov and .gov.uk sites.

I don't care if the govt is right wing or left wing.
These are official records, and not everything is reported.

I'm not religious. I'm left wing.
Mainstream media is totally owned by the cartel.
They lied on 9/11/2001 in a harmony.
Just this event: 9/11 and lies about it, proves existence of a cartel
which controls almost everything: media, govts, banks,..
If the mainstream media is pushing something down our throats,
then we can know for sure they have an evil agenda.

@topdom you have some glimmer of light into the world of high level power, but you have been misled as to where its power comes from and how and why it uses its influences.

Read up on "Military Industrial Complex", a term which used to refer to the influence of the defence industry upon policy makers in any single country or close military alliance. Today it refers specifically to a USA led, mainly financial, confluence of powerful people spread across industrial and financial sectors. It is influenced by and influences the City of London and the "Gnomes of Zurich", among a plethora of other influential, Western, international and national organisations.

It is also worth familiarising yourself with the "Mont Peleron Society" and how we are all submerged and disempowered by corporatism as espoused by Milton Friedman's predecessors such as von Mises, Hayek and Knight. Plus Friedman himself, of course. It would also be worth while finding out its USA equivalent. There most certainly is at least one. I got an inkling once the "Tea Party" or "Boston Tea Party" may be it. A body with that or a similar name is definitely heavily influenced by them.

Those will illustrate for you how the true damage is done and disavow you of the somewhat fanciful ideas of what some international cabal is doing. The groups I mention certainly do collaborate but the individuals involved are far too insular to form any specific campaigns beyond those agreed at their conferences, which are surprisingly open to public view. To suggest they have the level of cooperation or coordination to rig a worldwide vaccine plot, let alone a good enough reason, is straight out of Lalaland.

Ok, we both seem to agree there are powerful secretive and potentially evil groups.

Maybe we don't agree about their structure.
You seem to imply these are essentially disconnected things.

What I'm saying is, this thing might be like an onion, or a pyramide, or a tree, and it is connected.
I mean there is some hierachy, and there are fewer people at the top (or the center) and more at the bottom.

Why should it be connected: Otherwise when 9/11 happened, one of those (connected components) would have an objection against the official story. This didn't happen. After 20 years still everyone keeps lying about it.

There must be a control system which holds this powerful system together.
I think the main thing is money. I mean creation of money.
First they got gold, and use that gold to control the financial system,
so they print money, and when someone else tries to do the same they would use that gold and crush
their competitor.

Roman Empire collapsed but its gold is still in Rome (Vatican).

Another thing is their satanic religion. Not all need to be satanic. I mean at least top 13 bloodline families would be. They have their own rules, but no ethics. The rest can be controlled via bribery, blackmail, brainwashing.

Since they have money they can purchase power without spending their gold.
This is why they own all the mainstream media and social media, steal elections in US and Europe, and Australia, and Israel, ban natural cures, make wars and terror etc, and get away with it.

How to blackmail, someone in an important position stays at a hotel and wakes up with a naked or dead child, and pictures taken. After that point, that person is a controlled asset. Just one method used by them according to RDS. For example both of the big two parties in US are corrupt. Republicans don't seem to have a problem with stolen elections.

 

[Kingslayer]

Just out of curiosity... you're suggesting that these vaccines didn't go through the necessary tests to ensure they're safe?

You are wasting your time, 1 billion people around the world have now vaccinated but just like 'some' still believe the earth is flat, anti-vaxers will still claim it's not safe and hasn't had adequate testing (even though they have), when 5 billion has been vaccinated/protected and cracking on with life, some loons will still think 5 billion are going to drop dead together at any moment like some sci-fi TV show.

Thing is these people don't realise they are the biggest threat to the world, more people that get covid = more chance of mutations, so if lets just say 2 million in a country of 50 million don't have the vaccine, covid is still circulating between them and every single person who has it is a risking mutations and with that the lives of the whole nation/world, selfish if you ask me!

I hope vaccine passports happen when everyone in a country have been offered the chance of a vaccine (ie can't travel unless had the vaccine and can't go in restaurants/gyms/clubs etc), why should delusional people risk the lives and health of a whole country?

 

[Future Sensors]

April 25, 2021

BRUSSELS — American tourists who have been fully vaccinated against Covid-19 will be able to visit the European Union over the summer, the head of the bloc’s executive body said in an interview with The New York Times on Sunday, more than a year after shutting down nonessential travel from most countries to limit the spread of the coronavirus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/25/world/europe/american-travel-to-europe.html

 

[Cannuck]

why should delusional people risk the lives and health of a whole country?

Some people don't need the vaccine to have side effects

 

[Aaron.A]

anti-vaxers will still claim it's not safe and hasn't had adequate testing (even though they have)

Since the birth of medicine, there had been no safe vaccine developed for a coronavirus. So, it's not unreasonable for people to have doubts.

Please do some research. While I agree the evidence suggests it's safe at the time it's delivered. The problem with corona vaccines occurs when the subject gets reinfected with the same or another coronavirus. It's too early for me to believe it's safe. And it's too early for you to say.

I'm not saying the vaccine is unsafe, but to be sure, I'm going to bookmark this thread, and if you and others are still posting in a year or two, then I'll go and vaccinated.

I hope vaccine passports happen

Considering our ancestors used to go into battle swinging swords and axes to gain and protect their freedom, it makes me sad reading this.

 

[Cannuck]

I hope vaccine passports happen

Considering our ancestors used to go into battle swinging swords and axes to gain and protect their freedom, it makes me sad reading this.

Is it legal to cross borders with unregistered firearms? Proof of vaccination is already required for entry into certain countries.

https://www.traveldocs.com/travel-services/by-country-vaccination-requirements

 

[Aaron.A]

I'm talking about going to the pub, a concert, getting on a train, etc. No firearms in the UK thankfully.

 

[Kingslayer]

Since the birth of medicine, there had been no safe vaccine developed for a coronavirus. So, it's not unreasonable for people to have doubts.

Please do some research. While I agree the evidence suggests it's safe at the time it's delivered. The problem with corona vaccines occurs when the subject gets reinfected with the same or another coronavirus. It's too early for me to believe it's safe. And it's too early for you to say.

I'm not saying the vaccine is unsafe, but to be sure, I'm going to bookmark this thread, and if you and others are still posting in a year or two, then I'll go and vaccinated.



Considering our ancestors used to go into battle swinging swords and axes to gain and protect their freedom, it makes me sad reading this.

People are taking vaccines for their ‘freedoms’ and to try to get back to normality and to 'try' and rid the world of this plague and protect themselves along with others around them, people who don’t are potentially a walking grenade to people’s health and freedoms and should be treated as such (vaccine passports), only ‘when’ everyone has been offered the chance of a vaccine.

And don’t talk to me about battles and wars, when your whole attitude is ‘you go first and if you are ok, then I’ll go after’ – No one would want to fight in a war alongside someone like you.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

So we get to the bottom of it. Religious dogma. Not a shred of science or evidence of any kind. That kind of evangelism has done untold harm over the centuries and continues to do so.

It's not religious dogma, it is knowledge from the heart and it tops any kind of "science" or "evidence" you are talking about. Not following knowledge from the heart has done untold harm over the centuries and continues to do so.

 

[Joe N]

I'm talking about going to the pub, a concert, getting on a train, etc. No firearms in the UK thankfully.

There's no freedom without law and order. One of life's great paradoxes.

If you're making a personal choice to put yourself and others in harm's way, you might have to live with more restrictions.

Same exact argument could be made for smoking indoors. I don't want to be forced to be around second hand smoke just so you can exercise a choice that most people recognize to be very unhealthy.

 

[Aaron.A]

And don’t talk to me about battles and wars, when your whole attitude is ‘you go first and if you are ok, then I’ll go after’ – No one world want to fight a war alongside someone like you.

Lol. That was tongue and cheek.

And I have no doubt you only have good intensions with your beliefs.