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Anyone reading this attend NamesCon.online? First let me say I just love the domain industry that I knew absolutely nothing about until about three years ago. Prior to 2017 all I knew about were the very traditional .com, .net, .org, ,gov and .edu extensions (the letters just right of the .Dot). While it's pretty obvious that names like .edu (education), .net (internet), .org (organization), .gov (government) how many consumers or businesses actually know what .com (???) stands for or means?

To draw a comparison (very important), i was the guest speaker at my zoom "K" (Kiwanis) meeting yesterday, and even though we were discussing two very sensitive topics, "suicide and racism" I directed us to, "how many people know what the bold "K" we proudly where on our hats, polo shirts and tee shirts stands for? Ironically, and much to the dismay of my Kiwanis brothers and sisters, very few people in the world have ever heard of Kiwanis despite having over 600,000 members in 80 different countries worldwide. As an aside, but just as important our motto is, "Serving the Children of the World"

Again this was meant to draw a comparison to how little the rest of the world (outside the domain industry) knows or even cares what's right of the .dot:xf.rolleyes:

I know it's incensed many of the members here, but this is a subject that should and needs to be discussed. Why? Because we're literally running out of .com's, and those that are still available are so "overpriced" very few consumers or businesses can afford them. Why is that? It basically involves the old economic theory of "Supply and Demand". However, unlike typical "supply and demand" theory, there are many alternatives to .com, one of them being .online like you saw NamesCon.online using to promote their annual convention which is virtual aka online:xf.smile:

Despite being actively involved in the domain industry for the last three years, I never realized until recently that anything to the .right of the dot is moot. While I own over 900 .online domains that I've accumulated in the last 30 days, many of my .online domains make more sense than their "exact match" .left of the .dot. Here are a few of mine.....LetsDiscuss.online;

Whistleblower.online
QualityDomains.online
Reservations.online (serious dispute with Go Daddy and Radix over this one)
GunSafety.online
CaliforniaHomes.online

btw, you can "Discover" anything .online from Africa to Space. Anyone know where Com is:xf.eek:
 
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I know, because you think I have an agenda. But if I did, wouldn't that make for a great discussion? Debating with someone who favors an opposite viewpoint to your own is often an excellent way to flesh out your ideas and strategies.

I'm a fan of outbound marketing, but I really enjoy discussing it with others here who consider it to be spam, or to be a waste of time. Those discussions have helped me to refine my outbound strategy quite a bit.

Like the saying goes:
Joe...what do you know about money laundering and the domain industry? Due to my investigative background here's what I've learned;

MoneyLaundering.online:xf.wink:

Hint...are you aware that well over 50% of aftermarket domains that are sold whether they're .com's or new gTLD's are never developed? Why do you suppose that is:xf.smile:
 
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Hint...are you aware that well over 50% of aftermarket domains that are sold whether they're .com's or new gTLD's are never developed? Why do you suppose that is?
That's a very interesting statistic, Rich. There could be a lot of potential reasons. Before discussing, could you share your source of this information?
 
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with over 80% of .com domains either already spoken for or unattainable for a variety of reasons, .Online is rapidly becoming the new go to extension....

Hint...are you aware that well over 50% of aftermarket domains that are sold whether they're .com's or new gTLD's are never developed? Why do you suppose that is:xf.smile:

That's a very interesting statistic, Rich. There could be a lot of potential reasons. Before discussing, could you share your source of this information?

Source: Numbers pulled from my ass.

We have seen this before. If you are going to bring stats, which are quantifiable, you need to bring a citation as well.
 
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Source: Numbers pulled from my ass.

We have seen this before. If you are going to bring stats, which are quantifiable, you need to bring a citation as well.

Brad....see my response to Joe, and here is something else i pulled out of my ass;

Don't look now Joe and Brad, but .online is on FIRE!, according to the statistics that is:xf.wink:
 
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Source: Numbers pulled from my ass.

We have seen this before. If you are going to bring stats, which are quantifiable, you need to bring a citation as well.
Joe it's very SAD:xf.frown: that you and Brad know so little about statistics and the domain industry that you would even think about questioning my credibility with regards to how many actual domains sold turn into websites.

I know you know this, but for anyone else following, simply go to Namebio where you can find all names "sold" over the last 10 years. Then see for yourself that "well over 50%" of domains sold are never developed. What comes to mind for me is MoneyLaundering.online on a massive scale:xf.wink: Either that or outright stupidity.

To keep you and others happy Joe, here are a few of the .online gems my developer/partner and I registered in the last few days.

BuyFlooring.online (this is for my developers brother who owns one of the largest "flooring" companies in Arizona.

This led me to register;

BuySex.online
BuyAdvice.online
BuyDogs.online

we also registered;

Chargeit(y)online
 
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Don't look now Joe and Brad, but .online is on FIRE!, according to the statistics that is:xf.wink:

Citation please...

.ONLINE in the last year -

52 total reported sales.
$32,700 total dollar volume.

That looks more like a dumpster fire. 🗑️🔥

Brad
 
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Citation please...

.ONLINE in the last year -

52 total reported sales.
$32,700 total dollar volume.

That looks more like a dumpster fire. 🗑️🔥

Brad
$628 average per sale, and only 13 four-figure sales? Oh my... that's even worse than I expected.

Scariest news might be that zero of those four figure sales were for two word names.
 
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Citation please...

.ONLINE in the last year -

52 total reported sales.
$32,700 total dollar volume.

That looks more like a dumpster fire. 🗑️🔥

Brad
Oh Brad....you know I can pull sales out of my ass like i can stats. Don't know if you watch Shark Tank, but I just finished watching tonight's episode where two chefs working at the finest dining facility in the world "The French Laundry" developed a specialty selling truffles. Follow me so far Brad? Do you know what a truffle is? In any case, when they said they started a "VirtualCooking" class online for an upscale CC, the kind you and I and Joe belong to, I thought wow, that's cool:xf.cool: Thus I'm showcasing just for you;

VirtualCooking.online

Brad I'd give you this domain, but you obviously wouldn't know what to do with it like contact the two young chefs on Shark Tank to see if they might be interested? In case you think I'm lying, just go to youtube in a day or two and you'll see first hand these young fella's talking to the world about "Virtual Cooking".

Get back to me Brad with your questions, wherever it is you pull them from:xf.wink:
 
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$628 average per sale, and only 13 four-figure sales? Oh my... that's even worse than I expected.

Scariest news might be that zero of those four figure sales were for two word names.

Joe...a little misdirection here...you know, the kind you use.

What do you think of my response to Brad about Shark Tank and VirtualCooking.online? Think real hard now Joe and lets see what sort of misdirection you can come up with:xf.wink:
 
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VirtualCooking.online

...you obviously wouldn't know what to do with it like contact the two young chefs on Shark Tank to see if they might be interested?
They won't be interested, Rich.

As a savvy business guy, why aren't you seeing that you could take the few thousand dollars you spent in .online names and invest it in a few good quality names? Those names could be sold for a decent profit to to end users who would be happy paying the price because they know the value. And if you don't find an end user as quickly as you had hoped, the names will retain their value if you bought smartly.

End users don't see value in these .online names you're buying. Even after you explain it to them, it will be your opinion, with no backing data, against the opinion of the rest of the world.
 
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Oh Brad....you know I can pull sales out of my ass like i can stats. Don't know if you watch Shark Tank, but I just finished watching tonight's episode where two chefs working at the finest dining facility in the world "The French Laundry" developed a specialty selling truffles. Follow me so far Brad? Do you know what a truffle is? In any case, when they said they started a "VirtualCooking" class online for an upscale CC, the kind you and I and Joe belong to, I thought wow, that's cool:xf.cool: Thus I'm showcasing just for you;

VirtualCooking.online

Brad I'd give you this domain, but you obviously wouldn't know what to do with it like contact the two young chefs on Shark Tank to see if they might be interested? In case you think I'm lying, just go to youtube in a day or two and you'll see first hand these young fella's talking to the world about "Virtual Cooking".

Get back to me Brad with your questions, wherever it is you pull them from:xf.wink:

I would love to respond Rich, but I am busy working on Joe's Yachts for Tots project. :)

Brad
 
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Oh Brad....you know I can pull sales out of my ass like i can stats.

Ahhh... so that's where these .online sales and stats are coming from? :mooning:

Farts.Online/SalesNStats
 
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They won't be interested, Rich.

As a savvy business guy, why aren't you seeing that you could take the few thousand dollars you spent in .online names and invest it in a few good quality names? Those names could be sold for a decent profit to to end users who would be happy paying the price because they know the value. And if you don't find an end user as quickly as you had hoped, the names will retain their value if you bought smartly.

End users don't see value in these .online names you're buying. Even after you explain it to them, it will be your opinion, with no backing data, against the opinion of the rest of the world.

Oh Joe....i guess you did see Shark Tank then, and your comment "they won't be interested" may be right, but "Virtual Cooking Online" are the EXACT words they used. If you were working for me and you didn't at least follow up on something like this you'd be FIRED!

I see you didn't get back to me after checking Namebio to see how many of these sales actually turn into websites? And you don't think any of these sales involve money laundering? How naive:xf.rolleyes:

Just for giggles, here are the .xyz sales our friend from India made according to Andrew of DNN;

Props.xyz $7,888 - no site
Split.xyz $7,888 - no site
Propel.xyz $2,850 - no site (however, coming soon)
Shimmer.xyz $2,700 - no site
Zinc.xyz $3,495 - no site (however, for sale at GD)
Islands.xyz $3,495 - an actual site(y)

Joe....there's actually just one site developed out of all six names listed. Now that you've checked my statistical analysis "pulled" from Namebio and the above, wouldn't you like to retract your insinuation?

Finally, to your comment "End users don't see value in these .online names you're buying" That's right Joe they don't even know they exist, but there's a new sheriff in town:xf.wink:

I see where Margot Bushnaq, CEO of Brand Bucket lists Endusers.com for $60,000, and I just purchased Endusers.online for .99 cents:xf.rolleyes:....comments anyone, i think Joe may have :eggface: on his face.








 
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Oh Joe....i guess you did see Shark Tank then, and your comment "they won't be interested" may be right, but "Virtual Cooking Online" are the EXACT words they used. If you were working for me and you didn't at least follow up on something like this you'd be FIRED!
To clarify... You want people who are working for you to watch Shark Tank, register domain names that match what startup owners say, and then attempt to contact the owners and sell the names? That's an interesting use of time and money, Rich.
I see you didn't get back to me after checking Namebio to see how many of these sales actually turn into websites?
I actually asked you to provide your source for that statement, but you never did.
Just for giggles, here are the .xyz sales our friend from India made according to Andrew of DNN

Props.xyz $7,888 - no site
Split.xyz $7,888 - no site
Propel.xyz $2,850 - no site (however, coming soon)
Shimmer.xyz $2,700 - no site
Zinc.xyz $3,495 - no site (however, for sale at GD)
Islands.xyz $3,495 - an actual site
All short, one-word names. Interesting!
Now that you've checked my statistical analysis pulled from Namebio and the above, wouldn't you like to retract your insinuation?
There was no analysis, Rich. You just listed some sales from a blog post and made a seemingly random statement about how many names get developed.
 
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To clarify... You want people who are working for you to watch Shark Tank, register domain names that match what startup owners say, and then attempt to contact the owners and sell the names? That's an interesting use of time and money, Rich.

I actually asked you to provide your source for that statement, but you never did.

All short, one-word names. Interesting!

There was no analysis, Rich. You just listed some sales from a blog post and made a seemingly random statement about how many names get developed.

Joe we all know your agenda is to bait me anyway you can, but I refuse to be caught. I told you my source was Namebio for domains that are never developed, and now that you know that you refuse to accept the findings.....SAD:xf.frown: If you truly care about discrediting me Joe you have to do much better:xf.rolleyes:

YChange.online*

ChangeUp.online

* Joe, there's a story behind most every domain I own, and YChange.online is no different. Check out YChange.com, and see if you can figure it out:xf.wink:

After that check out CahngeUp.online and see if you can figure out why I registered it? Hint it has something to do with TQM(y)
 
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Joe we all know your agenda is to bait me anyway you can, but I refuse to be caught. I told you my source was Namebio for domains that are never developed, and now that you know that you refuse to accept the findings.....SAD:xf.frown: If you truly care about discrediting me Joe you have to do much better
I'm never baiting, Rich, just trying to extract information. Your statements of fact are often missing the necessary detail to derive any real meaning from them.

Now I think I understand what you're saying though... You looked at the last X number of domains listed as sold on Namebio, checked to see if they had active websites, and found that over 50% of them did not. Is that correct? If not, please clarify.

If that's the research you did, it's not terribly informative, since the time range likely wasn't long enough to expect that there would yet be active sites operating on those names. Certainly not enough time to claim that the names were "never" developed.
 
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I'm never baiting, Rich, just trying to extract information. Your statements of fact are often missing the necessary detail to derive any real meaning from them.

Now I think I understand what you're saying though... You looked at the last X number of domains listed as sold on Namebio, checked to see if they had active websites, and found that over 50% of them did not. Is that correct? If not, please clarify.

If that's the research you did, it's not terribly informative, since the time range likely wasn't long enough to expect that there would yet be active sites operating on those names. Certainly not enough time to claim that the names were "never" developed.

Sure you're "baiting" me Joe, and do you know how I know? Bait stinks, and everyone knows it.

Showcasing;

HomePlate.online - GD values .com at $13,708 - and there are lots of potential uses from home cooking to the name of a restaurant

HoeDown.online - GD values .com at $ 5,807, and is asking $50,000:ROFL:

Joe, at your expense I'm having more fun than I ever dreamed possible. Thanks for the mini vacation(y)
 
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Sure you're "baiting" me Joe, and do you know how I know? Bait stinks, and everyone knows it.
Let me know if you ever figure out how to validate your false statement, Rich.
 
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Let me know if you ever figure out how to validate your false statement, Rich.

Joe....now I'm beginning to think you're being paid to stalk, harass and discredit me. Even based on your criteria we've gone back on Namebio to recorded sales between 2019 and 2020 and OVER 65% of sold domains have never been developed. Again, money laundering on a massive scale comes to mind:xf.wink:

Showcasing just for you Joe;

BiggestLoser.online

and for me;

FactoryDirect.online - even GD values the .com equivalent @ $22,000, and Nameworth @ 74,500:xf.smile:
 
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Even based on your criteria we've gone back on Namebio to recorded sales between 2019 and 2020 and OVER 65% of sold domains have never been developed.
What criteria did you use in your search, Rich? In order to properly discuss whatever results you came up with, we need to know exactly what search filters you used. Are we talking about only .com names? Only names within a certain price range? Or did you check every single name listed on Namebio in 2019 and 2020 to see if they've been developed yet?
 
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What criteria did you use in your search, Rich? In order to properly discuss whatever results you came up with, we need to know exactly what search filters you used. Are we talking about only .com names? Only names within a certain price range? Or did you check every single name listed on Namebio in 2019 and 2020 to see if they've been developed yet?

Nunya Joe:xf.wink: Your failed attempt to take this thread off topic is just that....a failure!

I wish I could say something nice about you, but it would be a lie:xf.frown:

Not much more to say, but my .online domain "users group" is starting to gel.

Showcasing;

Philanthropic.online - means you're ready for PrimeTime!
 
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Nunya Joe:xf.wink: Your failed attempt to take this thread off topic is just that....a failure!

I wish I could say something nice about you, but it would be a lie:xf.frown:
Showcasing:

FakeData.online

Yet again unable to express yourself without resorting to personal attacks. Such a pity that you're this poorly equipped.online to make a coherent point.
 
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@ That Smart Guy .... manage to smuggle (here) more than 250 dot online of domains out of the NPs (External) Sales thread. Impressive tac-tic.

Regards
 
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@ That Smart Guy .... manage to smuggle (here) more than 250 dot online of domains out of the NPs (External) Sales thread. Impressive tac-tic.

Regards
Lox...i actually own NamePros.online speaking of impressive tactics:xf.smile:

also just picked up VirtualGuy.online and Sleazy.online. When you go to VirtualGuy.com you'll understand why I registered Sleazy.online:xf.wink:
 
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Showcasing:

FakeData.online

Yet again unable to express yourself without resorting to personal attacks. Such a pity that you're this poorly equipped.online to make a coherent point.

With regards to your fake data insinuation, check out the popularity of the .online extension @ ntldstats.com and get back to me:xf.wink:
 
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