The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[sonatime]

 

[Cannuck]

How to win election, Homer-style, lol

 

[Domainace]

only recently has the muzzle finally been taken off as BIG industry lobbied governments to ignore the science...

As if all those billions and trillions being offered to save the environment won't be scooped up and wasted by big industry - leaving the people with nothing to show for it except debt. The government won't solve these problems - they will only make them worse, enriching and empowering themselves in the process.

 

[Domainace]

How to win election, Trump-style, lol

"Simpson, the American people have never tolerated incompetence in their public officials"

LOL

 

[Cannuck]

As if all those billions and trillions being offered to save the environment won't be scooped up and wasted by big industry - leaving the people with nothing to show for it except debt. The government won't solve these problems - they will only make them worse, enriching and empowering themselves in the process.

Therein lies the problem. Like it or lump it, that's how capitalism works. However, if small business incentives are offered to help level the playing field ie. job creation, public education, re-training, grass roots innovation, then that will certainly stimulate the economy, but the field will be competitive and typically BIG business has an advantage by volume and the inside edge (government contracts etc). Profitable small businesses will be gobbled up by the big corps. The advantage small business has is they can adjust rapidly to change and cut out alot of the fat, afterall, the lean wolf runs fastest.

 

[Domainace]

Like it or lump it, that's how capitalism works.

That's not capitalism - it's simply corruption. And corruption increases when economically impactful decision are handed to the government.

BIG business has an advantage by volume and the inside edge (government contracts etc). Profitable small businesses will be gobbled up by the big corps. The advantage small business has is they can adjust rapidly to change and cut out alot of the fat, afterall, the lean wolf runs fastest

Easier to get those government contracts when you have the money needed to buy politicians and bureaucrats. Lean wolves can be hobbled by regulations and systems developed by big business/government collusion. If you let a government get too big, the only thing it will do is destroy economies, the environment and societies, and start wars.

 

[Cannuck]

IMO, it is due time for a global reset. Maybe Covid has been the catalyst, maybe it was a Plandemic, since the business-as-usual model isn't working. It won't last forever. People fear uncertainty and the most difficult thing to do is change. In a Malthusian way, 'fear of the ghost' is what was needed to provide the inertia to motivate and to steer the masses in a more sustainable direction. Now that people have been beaten down, they likely won't be so akin to live off the 'fat of the land' and hopefully be more apt to 'get with the program'.

 

[Cannuck]

That's not capitalism - it's simply corruption. And corruption increases when economically impactful decision are handed to the government.

Tell me one system that doesn't have corruption cooked in. The key is responsibility...a responsible government's job is to provide sound leadership. Handouts and bailouts are not it. That's one of the failings of the former administration - they accepted NO RESPONSIBILITY. The current admin may not have accountability either, but that has yet to be determined.

Easier to get those government contracts when you have the money needed to buy politicians and bureaucrats. Lean wolves can be hobbled by regulations and systems developed by big business/government collusion. If you let a government get too big, the only thing it will do is destroy economies, the environment and societies, and start wars.

I won't argue with that. We've seen what happened during cannabis legalization in Canada. Two types of companies - ones who grow for the market and ones who sell stocks to unwitting shareholders - all regulated by the government. There's no such thing as l'aissez fairness, lol...and 'free trade' is a myth.

 

[Domainace]

People fear uncertainty and the most difficult thing to do is change. In a Malthusian way, 'fear of the ghost' is what was needed to provide the inertia to motivate and to steer the masses in a more sustainable direction.

People who run from uncertainty and change should maybe take up Buddhism. Uncertainty and change are inevitable parts of life. Decisions motivated by fear are almost always bad decisions. This is a prescription for disaster.

Tell me one system that doesn't have corruption cooked in. The key is responsibility...

Corruption is part of human nature. It can be limited by strong societal norms, and by limiting government so that they have little to offer in return for bribes. The more power granted to government, the more they have to sell.

The current admin may not have accountability either, but that has yet to be determined.

Let me help you there. They don't, and won't. That you hold out any hope otherwise surprises me.

 

[sonatime]

That you hold out any hope otherwise surprises me.

This 1984 dystopia won't happen just by itself but I am curious what you will uncover

 

[sonatime]

"They Live" could have been a documentary

 

[Cannuck]

People who run from uncertainty and change should maybe take up Buddhism. Uncertainty and change are inevitable parts of life. Decisions motivated by fear are almost always bad decisions. This is a prescription for disaster.

Catastrophe has motivated humanity in the past. True, most decisions made in fear are based on primitive instincts, but fortune favours the prepared mind (and the bold)...as humans (caretakers of the Earth), we need to take some bold steps and become more mindful of our actions regarding not only our survival, but that of our species and others, less self-serving and globally aware. The planet will survive, but our progeny may not.

Corruption is part of human nature. It can be limited by strong societal norms, and by limiting government so that they have little to offer in return for bribes. The more power granted to government, the more they have to sell.

I'm cool with that, never have been a fan of BIG government. Then again, most people have been conditioned to accept even blatant lies. It's not a distant memory.

Let me help you there. They don't, and won't. That you hold out any hope otherwise surprises me.

I've lived in many places, under several different government systems. I don't know one that is perfect. I suppose if people were forced to pay back Soverign Debt directly out of their own pocket, that might change the circumstances. We didn't inherit the Earth, we borrow it from the future.

 

[sonatime]

I'm rooting for you @Domainace but I am an optimist to a fault

 

[Domainace]

Catastrophe has motivated humanity in the past.

Not so sure about that. Any examples? Near total destruction has, I know - but that's hardly the best approach.

I've lived in many places, under several different government systems. I don't know one that is perfect.

I thought we were just aiming for accountable, not perfect.

 

[Domainace]

I'm rooting for you @Domainace but I am an optimist to a fault

Thanks. We are all on the same side. And none of us really have the solutions. The one advantage we have is that we know from history and experience what ideas don't work.

Yet people keep insisting on those same ideas. When you challenge them, they ask "you have a better idea?" No we don't, but we won't find them if we just keep recycling the same old bad ideas.

We should have a rubbish bin for ideas we know won't work, and another pile of ideas marked "maybe will work, but we haven't tried yet."

Anybody thinking that Biden, much less Harris, is going to fix things has to be living in a complete dream world. They are part of the problem themselves.

 

[GILSAN]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1374102682990952459

 

[GILSAN]

Minnesota “Cinderella” Theater Production Cancelled After 98% of Cast Was White

Way back during the Cinderella times, England was 99.9% white, so 98% of black actors seems very generous.

I wonder if they will cancel Basketball and American football games, since white players are extremely under represented...

 

[sonatime]

Minnesota “Cinderella” Theater Production Cancelled After 98% of Cast Was White

Way back during the Cinderella times, England was 99.9% white, so 98% of black actors seems very generous.

I wonder if they will cancel Basketball and American football games, since white players are extremely under represented...

clown world on steroids. They will not stop this on their own, citizenry needs to find a backbone against this globalist psyop.

 

[GILSAN]

Photo Collage Reveals Who Commits the Mass Shootings in the US Today

https://twitter.com/x/status/1374749217290391554

 

[sonatime]

Photo Collage Reveals Who Commits the Mass Shootings in the US Today

https://twitter.com/x/status/1374749217290391554

7 in 7 days, that’s a typical weekend in Chicago

Crowder SHREDS '7 Shootings in 7 Days' Narrative

Media only pushes stories that are useful politically for gun control measures to disarm law abiding gun owners and does not care to inform accurately or attempt to warn about real violence that takes place.

 

[Cannuck]

Not so sure about that. Any examples? Near total destruction has, I know - but that's hardly the best approach.

Preparedness at an individual, community and national is important for minimizing hazard impacts... let's use Japan as an example. Do you not keep an emergency supply of water and food available in case of earthquake? I did. How about where I currently live? I need to consider the possibility of freezing and/or starving, so I make preparations. I don't have a hospital nearby, it's like 500km by air. I take calculated risks and prepare for extremes. I've learned from experience. Preparedness needs guidance. While a major pandemic has not occurred in our lifetime (especially in the West), the occurrence of SARS, bird flu, swine flu, MERS and Ebola abroad have raised community awareness and a large-scale public health effort in those countries most effected.

Human needs are also an important factor. Values, beliefs, and customs differ from country to country and group to group, but all people have similar needs: basic needs and higher needs. Basic needs generally take priority over growth needs. American huberous has been a major achilles heel, and unfortunately we've seen the results of not being prepared.

I thought we were just aiming for accountable, not perfect.

Leaders also have to understand both the basic and higher needs of the public, as they are significant factors in motivation. Again, nobody or no system is perfect, but some leaders fall very short of the mark when it comes to being prepared to satisfy the needs of their people, including motivating behavioral changes (one of the main reason why they are not re-elected). It doesn't always follow partisan lines, some people are more adept and therefore able to adapt to change better than others.

 

[Domainace]

 

[sonatime]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1374907385446162436

 

[Cannuck]

It also helps to be independent, stay connected, but be able to disconnect from all those creature comforts and conveniences we've become so accustomed to. Personally, I made backup plans B and C long before Covid, so if and when the sh*t hits the royal fan, then at least me and my family's basic needs will be met. Growth needs come from being able to survive, by being true to oneself and with a healthy attitude, and by living within the natural balance by one's own means. It's a personal choice of lifestyle, not everyone is suited for.

 

[sonatime]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1374787215042228230