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if he can shut the president up/off, he can shut down any of us up...

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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
Also, the events of last Wednesday should leave clearly in mind where the danger of repeating history lies. Many people involved believed that they were participating in a revolution. But clearly, most of the nation and the world could see it was thuggery and terrorism. Let's not label things that aren't so.
 
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TOS violations. Even his dumb kids still have active accounts along with many other right leaning folk. If you violate terms, incite violence like saying Pence should be the first for the firing squad, you could get banned. Not sure why the obvious keeps going over your head.

Limiting ability to reach new people, removing followers, shadow banning people because they have different opinions isn't a violation of TOS.

Maybe you should stop making excuses for tyranny and censorship.
 
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Limiting ability to reach new people, removing followers, shadow banning people because they have different opinions isn't a violation of TOS.

Maybe you should stop making excuses for tyranny and censorship.
Maybe you should take me up on that Hooked on Phonics offer so you can learn to comprehend a TOS
 
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Grump was booted off these private platforms for repeated violations of their TOS. It’s not a censorship issue.

De facto censorship is more like...Grump calling any piece of news he doesn’t like doesn’t support him “fake news” - and refusing press passes to reporters who print anything unfavorable about him.

It wasn't just Pres. Trump. It was hundreds of conservatives including journalist that have been censored.
 
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I'm not conservative at all, I'm leftist. I created an account at T, told truth to a few nonamericans who would agree with me on most topics, and in a nonenglish language, and I was not banned, but my posts were made invisible to everyone gradually within a few days. They did this to others as well. They don't even say we removed your post. They made them visible to me only. This is pure fascism (and of course not a left wing thing).
 
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It wasn't just Pres. Trump. It was hundreds of conservatives including journalist that have been censored.


freedom of speech != right to be published

my page - my rules
 
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This is pure fascism (and of course not a left wing thing)

OMG. Stop using the label fascism. Fascism != censorship. Study history to learn what true fascism is. In the last days of this administration, in fact, the last 4 years, we have been living in very heated times. Exacerbated by people in power. Hopefully things will settle down with the new administration. But as long as people in power and those who have a large following have the ability to spew their hate-inducing messages, we're in for a long haul.

Social media mediates posts by two ways. AI algorithms and human mediation. They have a huge number of users so they need AI. It is impossible to use human administrators for every single post. As such, there will be false positives and innocent posts can and have been removed. As I highlighted in the first video of the Domaining Show.
 
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OMG. Stop using the label fascism. Fascism != censorship. Study history to learn what true fascism is. In the last days of this administration, in fact, the last 4 years, we have been living in very heated times. Exacerbated by people in power. Hopefully things will settle down with the new administration. But as long as people in power and those who have a large following have the ability to spew their hate-inducing messages, we're in for a long haul.

Social media mediates posts by two ways. AI algorithms and human mediation. They have a huge number of users so they need AI. It is impossible to use human administrators for every single post. As such, there will be false positives and innocent posts can and have been removed. As I highlighted in the first video of the Domaining Show.

Censorship is not the only bad thing they do. They make war, terror, torture, genocide, theft, tell lies all the time, force gmo food and spread gmo viruses, and force toxic vaccines, steal elections.

Yes new Trump administration will be able to do more/better things, because some tratiors will be eliminated.

What I meant: They do wide scale censorship. They may even be blocking emails. What they do is like:
they block an email, and not even put it into recipient's spambox, and not give any error either.
What else can they do: pretend to be me and send stuff under my name, but then it would be a crime. They do most evil things they can do without committing a crime, just because they have an ugly agenda they are trying to hide.

How can any of you approve social media's censorship. Trump never encouraged or praised violence. This is an act of war, even if it is not officially a crime. You could say, I don't like Trump or what he says, but I don't approve such censorship either... Violence in that building was done by people who are Trump's enemies, and it was a small group. And there might be some accidents. But Trump supporters were peaceful. Trump had nothing to gain from violence at such a time and location.

And it looks like: Some Trump supporters were invited to support Trump and protest election theft, and deepstate brought its antifa to create some chaos, and make this an excuse to ban Trump's social media accounts. If you are blaming Trump. then you should allow him to respond to your accusations, otherwise this is called media fascism. It is like you blame someone for something and put him in jail without allowing him to defend himself in court.
 
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Fascism= Abuse of power
Democracy= Opposite of fascism.

more or less.

If I'm censored by namepros, it is ok, because it is a small company. But if I'm a world leader, and if billions are watching my posts in a critical time and I don't say anything unethical , and all the media and social media ban me and insults me and tell lies about me, and create false flag events to be used as excuses, .. this is worse than regular censorship, it is pure fascism. It is an organized thing and it is abuse of power.
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Other definition of fascism (made by someone else): merging state with big companies.
So it is more like opposite of separation of powers. Maybe you can also define fascism as extreme-right-wing.

In Roman Empire fascism had a "good" meaning. (I don't remember what it is)

My definition above is close to current daily use.
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Right-wingness contradicts with itself. If I want someone to be king, then I'm right-wing, but if I'm not the king, what is the point of it.
 
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Frank, did Epik accept Parler? No?
Doesnt seem like a “safe haven” to me:

dislike and disagree without engaging away @karmaco

They accepted Parler; but not hosting.
As of today Parler’s website does not host.

Epik is a registrar; first foremost; Sorry, cancel culture.

https://www.epik.com/blog/parlerstatement
Very proud of Epik's reply, agree; excellent piece.

If kept Brevity & Concise; with this topic?
“Cancel Culture” would have criticized “too small;”
This shows heart. Good luck to both parties, forward.

I’m sure if it was up to many forum members here;
Nothing short what PGA Tour did to Trump, suffices...
There is no negotiating with “Cancel Culture”

Prove me wrong.
Anyone take comfort fact; no hosting, just registrar?
Or fact cut off; Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook.
“de-platformed” by left social media! (with MSM help)
Certain people have reasons for putting their spin...
It’s how you perceive it. Actions of few dont reflect whole

Samer
 
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It wasn't just Trump. It was dozens if not hundreds of conservatives, including journalist that had their account limited.

It is censorship; doesn't matter if gov or social media company. They are now deeply related with executives appointed to position in the Biden administration.

You should be worried because things like this don't stop at people you don't like.
The latest victim by FakeBook... Ron Paul
 
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Fascism= Abuse of power
Democracy= Opposite of fascism.

Abuse of power can and has happened under democracy and keeps happening. If you know well how things work you can manipulate any system of governance. There is no panacea in government. You can only hope for honorable character in your leaders.
 
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Democracy is to hand over presidency after losing an election. I am not from US.

When you win everything is fine, votes were not stolen, the election was fair. But when you lose, votes were stolen, media banned me, etc. I don't buy such a childish excuse. It's a big shame for democracy in the US.
 
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Abuse of power can and has happened under democracy and keeps happening. If you know well how things work you can manipulate any system of governance. There is no panacea in government. You can only hope for honorable character in your leaders.

In democracy there are ways to escape abuse of power (at least in theory). In fascism all roads are blocked.
In democracies fascist minded people can come to power, but they won't be powerful enough.

By fascism and democracy I don't only mean forms of goverments.
 
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In democracies fascist minded people can come to power, but they won't be powerful enough.

Wrong!

Dictators and fascists are first elected by democratic elections and then abuse the power provided by democracy!
 
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Wrong!

Dictators and fascists are first elected by democratic elections and then abuse the power provided by democracy!

In a true democracy they would be stopped (theoretically or by definition). Democracy is not just an election system. It is a principle. For example noone says there should be government at the top of all. There can be a completely different system noone tried before and it can be more democratic than all known systems...
(offtopic: But "pure democracy" may not be a good thing in the same way "pure left" (communism) is not a very good thing. For example if 90 percent of people are idiots, and majority of votes count all the time, then the result will be bad.)
 
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Say the wrong thing they will lock your ass up quick.
 
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Are you happy about it? It's sort of like the Jews in Hitler's Germany, right?


you know nothing about the holocaust

that he can't use a third-party website
has nothing to do with murdering 6 Mill people

comparing that
makes you look very, very
uneducated

- trying to stay as polite as possible -

my blood is boiling hearing this kind of stupid nonsense over and over


a moment bevor executed:
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this is how they were transported:
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here is where the cremation happend:

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yeah, but what they did to Trump
yeah, thats even worse

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"Impeaching Trump alone isn’t enough. He will not have learned his lesson. Bring on all the indictments after Jan 21st."


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