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Do you wear a mask in public?


Hello Mods and Mems,

Well here we have it. Mandatory mask wearing in public.
Now most of you that know me understand that I am not the kind of guy that welcomes new laws...
infringement on personal freedom... that kind of stuff.
However, their are some laws that have been passed in my lifetime I believe are just plain common sense.

Car seats for kids.
Seat belts.
No riding in the back of pickup trucks.
No smoking in public places.
Stuff like this saves lives.

Wearing a mask in public is not so much for your own protection, but for the protection of those around you.
This is not my opinion. According to the medical professionals, this is a fact.

Lets hear from you.
Without turning this into a political pissing match, those of you who believe against wearing masks in public, please justify your position.

Please keep it civil... no personal attacks.

Thank you.

Peace,
Kenny
 
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This is what we are fighting.

Not a virus.

Taking that stance based on wearing masks is basically the height of privilege, from someone who has no idea what real oppression or tyranny is.

It is like the "War on Christmas" and other bullshit issues that only entitled people with no real issues are fighting.

The government is forcing me to wear clothes in public. TYRANNY!!!!!

Brad
 
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Taking that stance based on wearing masks is basically the height of privilege, from someone who has no idea what real oppression or tyranny is.

It is like the "War on Christmas" and other bullshit issues that only entitled people with no actual issues are fighting.

The government is forcing me to wear clothes in public. TYRANNY!!!!!

Brad



Dude the economy is shut down across much of the world.
Parents are with their children at home

I know you'll pass this IQ test.

I know it.
 
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The government is forcing me to wear clothes in public.





There is no law for this as you may think.

Mandates are not laws.



People are all volunteering to corrupt mandates rather than complying with any laws
 
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It does appear that the main advocates for masks etc are from those countries that have low infection and death rates.

Those generally opposed appear to be from countries that have the highest infection and death rates.

Make of that what you will.
 
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It does appear that the main advocates for masks etc are from those countries that have low infection and death rates.

Those generally opposed appear to be from countries that have the highest infection and death rates.

Make of that what you will.


Meanwhile tuberculosis and suicide stats trump puffed covid figures,

but that's not popular or profitable with the circus on the media


by in large....

the populous is too dumbed down and distracted to know or care about anything besides what the media tells them to believe.


(Except for all of you reading this that are wide awake and can smell the BS coating the Earth and are ready to clear it)
 
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This is (a screenshot) from Austria's state TV - channel (ORF 2, main news (about the so called coronavirus - pandemic)):

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The illuminati - symbolism can't be more obvious.
 
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I generally try to be polite in forums and genuinely try to understand where people are coming from. But if you aren't wearing a mask during this pandemic, you are an idiot. There's simply know way around it. It's a small gesture that could possibly save someone's life. Even if it turns out to be false and masks make zero difference, what was the harm? Some slight discomfort? Some delusion that the world's governments have conspired to take away your freedoms? For that you will risk people's lives? If we were in year two and the facts were becoming clear that it isn't all that serious, they maybe your argument would start to make sense. But we aren't. It seems like there are vaccines on the horizon that will put and end to the threat. To err on the side of people dying when you can avoid it makes absolutely no sense. It would make no sense even if all the information was arguable. It would make no sense even if through all our efforts not a single person was saved. The cost is just too low. But of course the facts are solidly in the pocket of those who are doing their civic duty to protect their neighbors. To the rest of you, the idiots in this case, I hope you don't need to go to the hospital with some benign issue that requires immediate care. Because as the winter goes on, your chances of getting it are getting smaller and smaller. In the real world, this pandemic is a huge problem.
 
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Even if it turns out to be false and masks make zero difference, what was the harm? Some slight discomfort?


For those of us with tens of thousands of hours of healthcare experience, by in large we know the fact that the masks don't do anything to prevent viral transmission.

Very old news to the medical community.

The research and studies on this were done decades ago.





There is a DISCLAIMER on the surgical mask box:

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For those of us with tens of thousands of hours of healthcare experience, by in large we know the fact that the masks don't do anything to prevent viral infection.

Absurd. I find it amazing that you seem to be so knowledgeable about something that many, many reputable health professionals disagree with you about. But please, lay out your credentials to make such a ridiculous statement. Are you treating covid patients with no mask?
 
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Around a million and a half people have died around the World as of today due to the Pandemic,

I wonder how many of them could have been saved if:

1- The World would have been warned about the virus promptly at the very beginning.

2- Travel and large gatherings would have been restricted from the very start.

3- Everyone would have abided by all the hygiene and safety guidelines and protocols from day one including wearing masks and physical distancing.

4- Adequate medical supplies, equipment, and personal would have been available at all hospitals.

5- Testing, tracking, isolating, quarantining, reduced capacity, and lockdowns would have been implemented properly before the virus had become so widespread.


The only good that I see in handling this Pandemic so far is the rapid development of the vaccine which I hope will be distributed equitably all around the World soon.

IMO
 
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Absurd. I find it amazing that you seem to be so knowledgeable about something that many, many reputable health professionals disagree with you about. But please, lay out your credentials to make such a ridiculous statement. Are you treating covid patients with no mask?

I have Compassion blocked, but I still sometimes catch some of his bs before I sign on. Here's one answer to the image he posted: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...arer/507-d5070a18-0146-4ef9-9d22-afe9fa7759a0

And if you want more covid protection from a mask, upgrade your mask/s quality.
 
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Wow. Total obsession. Do you require your patients to unmask before they see you @Compassion ¿
We wear masks to prevent spreading it, not prevent contracting it. @Compassion You have proved your agenda. Now go walk around walmart telling everyone there what you tell people here. I’d like to not wear a mask but until fucking idiots like you, help out, i’ll keep playing by the rules.
remember we wear masks to stop the spread.
anti mask rally happening in kelowna this weekend or next. Talk about a pro mask rally at same place and time. Its not gonna be pretty. To bad border is closed, you could come up support your fellow comrades
For those of us with tens of thousands of hours of healthcare experience, by in large we know the fact that the masks don't do anything to prevent viral transmission.

Very old news to the medical community.

The research and studies on this were done decades ago.





There is a DISCLAIMER on the surgical mask box:

index.php
 
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Wow. Total obsession. Do you require your patients to unmask before they see you @Compassion ¿
We wear masks to prevent spreading it, not prevent contracting it. @Compassion You have proved your agenda. Now go walk around walmart telling everyone there what you tell people here. I’d like to not wear a mask but until fucking idiots like you, help out, i’ll keep playing by the rules.
remember we wear masks to stop the spread.
anti mask rally happening in kelowna this weekend or next. Talk about a pro mask rally at same place and time. Its not gonna be pretty. To bad border is closed, you could come up support your fellow comrades
I have Compassion blocked, but I still sometimes catch some of his bs before I sign on. Here's one answer to the image he posted: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...arer/507-d5070a18-0146-4ef9-9d22-afe9fa7759a0

And if you want more covid protection from a mask, upgrade your mask/s quality.






Funny how people like to stay warm and cozy in their bubbles of cognitive dissonance....


Though it is starting to be less funny and more of a liability on humanity.



If you all want to listen to an OSHA Expert speak about masks ...see below....- because after all - if there is one agency that is on the front lines of mask wearing and the facts - it is OSHA.






Breathe deeply, be whole.


And turn off the mainstream media.
(Or at least watch it knowing it's theater)
 
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Wow. Total obsession. Do you require your patients to unmask before they see you



My clients and I are able to move qi from anywhere on the plane, so we alchemize through the video.

Locally?

However they are more comfortable.


I meet people where they are at...


I don't come at them with truth after truth with such intensity like I do you guys sometimes.

(Unless they ask for info/data/my opinion on masks then I go there)


My smiling face without a mask speaks for itself.
 
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Much of the disconnection between spirit, body and mind that I see in the good ol' USA right now stems from people not wanting to admit they were duped into the mask-wearing charade(duped about a lot more things than this) - so rather than go through that emotional gambit and own that they were deceived, in some areas the dissonant defense of masks reigns supreme.
 
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Much of the disconnection between spirit, body and mind that I see in the good ol' USA right now stems from people not wanting to admit they were duped into the mask-wearing charade(duped about a lot more things than this) - so rather than go through that emotional gambit and own that they were deceived, in some areas the dissonant defense of masks reigns supreme.

The question remains: the question you avoid at all costs:

Take this hypothetical: there are two choices. In the first choice some action is taken that may provide a benefit to another person. The cost is small. In choice two, no action is taken but there might be a negative cost to another person. Which choice would you make?

Here are some real word examples:
You come upon someone having medical distress but you are late for an appointment. You could:
a) Call 911 and render aid or simply keep them company until help arrives
b) Do nothing

Someone stops to ask directions but you are having a conversation that would be interrupted. You could:
a) provide them assistance
b) Tell them to leave you alone

A child asks for help finding their dog that got off the leash. You could:
a) help
b) run away

The list goes on and on. There are countless ways to help your neighbors if you can be bothered to suffer the discomfort, however slight or severe.

As far as being "duped" into wearing a mask. So what? How have I been harmed? I've been duped into much worse things. I allow for the possibility that I'm being duped because I've been wrong about many things in my life. I have opinions, they are sometimes correct, sometimes not. Sometimes they change. So I allow for the fact that I might be wrong about this and it doesn't provide a solid argument against trying to help out with a simple gesture.

But what if you're wrong? The option of not being "duped", standing up to the oppressors, defying the scientists, has gained you what? And if you're wrong might have cost someone a friend, mother, father, son, daughter, etc, etc.

These are not hypothetical questions. I would like to hear your answers @Compassion to these simple questions:

1) What have you gained by not wearing a mask during this pandemic
2) Have you ever been wrong in your assessment of a situation?
3) Is the discomfort a wearing a mask worth a human life if you are wrong?
 
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The question remains: the question you avoid at all costs:

Take this hypothetical: there are two choices. In the first choice some action is taken that may provide a benefit to another person. The cost is small. In choice two, no action is taken but there might be a negative cost to another person. Which choice would you make?

Here are some real word examples:
You come upon someone having medical distress but you are late for an appointment. You could:
a) Call 911 and render aid or simply keep them company until help arrives
b) Do nothing

Someone stops to ask directions but you are having a conversation that would be interrupted. You could:
a) provide them assistance
b) Tell them to leave you alone

A child asks for help finding their dog that got off the leash. You could:
a) help
b) run away

The list goes on and on. There are countless ways to help your neighbors if you can be bothered to suffer the discomfort, however slight or severe.

As far as being "duped" into wearing a mask. So what? How have I been harmed? I've been duped into much worse things. I allow for the possibility that I'm being duped because I've been wrong about many things in my life. I have opinions, they are sometimes correct, sometimes not. Sometimes they change. So I allow for the fact that I might be wrong about this and it doesn't provide a solid argument against trying to help out with a simple gesture.

But what if you're wrong? The option of not being "duped", standing up to the oppressors, defying the scientists, has gained you what? And if you're wrong might have cost someone a friend, mother, father, son, daughter, etc, etc.

These are not hypothetical questions. I would like to hear your answers @Compassion to these simple questions:

1) What have you gained by not wearing a mask during this pandemic
2) Have you ever been wrong in your assessment of a situation?
3) Is the discomfort a wearing a mask worth a human life if you are wrong?

my experience is that those deniers are stuck
and there is no way to reach or influence them

I have come to the conclusion that they are either

1) aliens from a distant world
2) or ( more likely ) they are extremely stupid.

at least they are not a born domainer that's for sure
as you need some kind of ability to conclude and
preview consequences
in order to ( hand reg ) domains
for future needs
 
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Oh look, yet another study that shows masks actually work to slow the spread.

Who should you trust, the vast majority of the scientific and medical community, or some random person? Tough call.

Mask use can reduce the number of new Covid-19 infections by close to 50%, study finds

Mandatory mask usage in parts of Germany last spring helped significantly reduce the number of new Covid-19 infections, a team of German researchers reported in a new analysis.

The team used public data on coronavirus cases to compare regions with and without mandatory mask policies last April.

The study, which was published Thursday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, also found that certain age groups benefited more from mask usage.

The researchers looked at data from mask use in Jena, a city in central Germany, after a mandatory mask policy took effect between April 1-10.

They compared Jena’s mandatory mask policy with a control group, a similar city that experienced comparable growth in coronavirus cases before the mandatory mask policy in Jena.

They found a “significant difference” in Covid-19 case reductions in Jena.

“Our findings indicate that the early introduction of face masks in Jena has resulted in a drop in newly registered COVID-19 cases of around 75% after 20 days,” the team reported.

“Put simply, if the control region observes 100 new infections over a period of 20 days, the mask region observes only 25 cases,” they wrote.

“This drop is greatest, by more than 90%, for the age group 60 years and above.”

The study also concluded that, given the low cost compared to other public health measures, masks are a cost-effective way to combat the spread of coronavirus.

The analysis did not look at the different types of face masks and whether that could have affected the conclusion.

Previous studies on the use of face masks in public have also they reduce the spread of Covid -19.
 
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Manitoba Premier practically begging with emotional voice, says, “if you don’t think #COVID19 is real, you’re an idiot”.
Don't fall for it, politicians (especially the well paid, high profile ones) are part of this evil "game" / global PSY(chological) OP(eration) - is that really (!?) so hard to understand?

My answer would be no, it's not (if you look back in history).

However, maybe you(r deepest inside) feels it (that there is something heavily bogus) actually very well and you are just sympathising with his statement because of his unproper language ("idiot") - as, according to your postings, you seem to like using such (and similar) terms too when others are not "mainstream" (not believing the storys that you (really seem to) believe).

... those deniers are stuck ...
Open your mind and you will understand that at least you shouldn't rule out that it may be YOU (and other "mass media - believers") who is (are) the (deceived) denier(s) (who is (are) stuck) here.

Honestly, better listen to @Compassion as his postings are some of the most reasonable and intelligent ones.

And begin to look critically at dramatized claims, "studies" and "numbers", emotionally presented by "actors (including politicians)" of this freemasonic agenda ...

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... orchestrated by the illuminati to implement / realize their sick dream of a new world order (in which Lucifer (may he be cursed) will be worshipped by those who became his slaves (with or without knowing it)).

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I really (and I guess others too) don't care who you or others (have) block(ed), just block whoever you want (no problem) and feel free to wear a mask (also no problem) whenever you like if you really think it makes sense. What counts at the end is to stay respectful against those who don't share your views, opinions or convictions.
 
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Dude the economy is shut down across much of the world.
Parents are with their children at home

I know you'll pass this IQ test.

I know it.

Even with all of this, some people still think it is about a virus. I guess when they start loosing their jobs and end up sleeping on the street they will wake up.
 
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@Compassion to these simple questions:




1) What have you gained by not wearing a mask during this pandemic

I have gained nothing, however I did gain oxygen by not creating a hypoxic state by wearing a mask.

I primarily use Instacart and the Internet for food orders, I don't go to stores, I live in a smaller city. Ironically for those who believe in not spreading a virus by staying home and by staying out of stores - I've done this since this plandemic started.



2) Have you ever been wrong in your assessment of a situation?


All humans make mistakes.
Yes. At the very beginning I was prepared for the worst and was extra cautious based on what we were hearing.

Then I reviewed the data, relative information, the total mortality count, conversed with other doctors and researched while honkering down at home. Back in those days you may recall the US Surgeon General and Fauci himself said to not use masks (quite loudly) which makes sense with the Physiology and Immunology training all healthcare practitioners receive. I never swayed from this stance because it is correct.

The media and the power of suggestion is what got people to wear masks well into the Spring/Summer - long after Cold/Flu Season and got people believing we are in a pandemic when in fact all the RTPCR testing is doing is showing amplified genetic material. Many doctors are speaking about this:



Here is the INVENTOR of the test saying to NOT use PCR for infectious disease diagnosis






3) Is the discomfort a wearing a mask worth a human life if you are wrong?


Definitely not. I'd wear one. Kennedy describes my stance here.






There is a divide in the healthcare field - just so you all know. Not all see the situation like Kennedy and myself do, but many many many many healthcare practitioners see the data, know science and many understand the fraud of the usage of the RTPCR test as the foundation of the fear scam right now. Many understand that the data shows masks don't help, but actually harm us.

There were also some research studies done decades ago that proved that masks don't prevent viral transmission.

You could also take a look at Rudolf Steiner's work from early last century where he proved viruses don't transfer around like the media suggests they do.

Viruses are actually a detox mechanism inside all of us - not like a bacteria that we pass around.





But media and politics rarely meld together to create truth so the divide and conquer show continues until we all don't allow ourselves to be conquered by the nefarious a-holes destroying the world while they reshape it as fast as they can while we're at home.


So that is why I say turn off the mainstream media . . .

unless you are ready to see it through the lens as a theatrical play with some familiar faces reading their lines with a clear agenda to keep the people distracted, divided, dumbed down and in fear. - The opposite of feeling in tune with God/Divine.
 
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More youtube videoes :hungover:
We’re like you, brainwashed by online sources. Is youtube your bible?
Funny how people like to stay warm and cozy in their bubbles of cognitive dissonance....


Though it is starting to be less funny and more of a liability on humanity.



If you all want to listen to an OSHA Expert speak about masks ...see below....- because after all - if there is one agency that is on the front lines of mask wearing and the facts - it is OSHA.






Breathe deeply, be whole.


And turn off the mainstream media.
(Or at least watch it knowing it's theater)
 
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More youtube videoes :hungover:
We’re like you, brainwashed by online sources. Is youtube your bible?



All links are to highly credentialed doctors.

Do you have a central point to refute?


Or just monkeying around?

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