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Here is one thing never to with bidder Bidder 913932 in the auctions or hd/GD or whoever it is. Can't be 100% sure. But I,m 99.99

Never bid on any expired domain at the expiry $12 auction wait until goes to the $11 close out. Bidder 913932 will just take it and out bid you if you put a bid in on the $12 side wait until it goes to closeout. Never attract attention. Now if two multiple bidders you have no choice but to bid and overpay or involve yourself but most likely it will include 913932.

If you see a list that these domainers that say "godaddy names with no bids" DON'T go out and bid on them. They're fine lists but again the mistake you will be doing is helping HD do the human work of it all and they will out bid you or make you pay 10x what you where before. Guess who that helps out?

Watch the auction during last 5 minutes if someone bids then go ahead and jump into the action but just don't bid on the $12 domain if it is a hidden gem you have found the autobots will jump on it.

2. Never bookmark a bid or save anything anywhere on any external site that you're are watching this name. Like a star or watch list. NEVER.

3. They don't bid around the clock everyday. So figure out when and what days HD stops bidding. Ask other domainers if they are seeing bidder 913932 is bidding. Don't do SUNDAY they love bidding on those days.

Report and share what your finding with other GD bidders on a form here.

Is it fair what this bidder is doing? I have no idea nor care but if I,m bored I start upping the bids at least 3-5 times on each name then they will stop. They will pay higher on each name. They can't afford this over time. IMO they will pay a certain % or up the bid so many times. Probably 7-8% of the max of the GD appraisal price. Not sure would be interesting to hear from others.
 
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Can I enquire what sort of names you are bidding on, and is it possible that they are all part of a portfolio or group of portfolios?
 
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HD Bot # 913932 AND 913933
 
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This revelation was made; Give 31 page thread @wwwweb worth read
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https://www.namepros.com/threads/huge-domains-sniping-godaddy-closeouts.1135689/
 
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Yes, it's the HD bot.

Take your chances at closeout, never place a bid if it's already $12 in the final minutes.

You will overpay every time.
 
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Yes Exactly. They will target your $12 dollar bid. I wish people would just ignore it completely until it goes into the closeout. I can't think of any reason to make a bid if your the only bidder. If HD wanted it so badly they would of bid before you, GD is laughing all the way to the bank. Take your chances in closeout first one that gets it, gets it at least it will not be HD.
 
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I never realize it until I read the thread above. Sucks..
 
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Never bid on any expired domain at the expiry $12 auction wait until goes to the $11 close out. Bidder 913932 will just take it and out bid you if you put a bid in on the $12 side wait until it goes to closeout. Never attract attention. Now if two multiple bidders you have no choice but to bid and overpay or involve yourself but most likely it will include 913932.

HD is not bidding on names just because you have a bid placed. They are very opportunistic planning their acquisitions in advance and bidding in the closing minutes using proxy bids.

If you wait until it goes to the $11 closeout, you run the risk of it getting sniped by the API users. I think you're better off bidding during the closing minutes when the price is still at $12.

As for HD having an unfair advantage on the $12 side -- I don't think this is even possible due to the fact that the action will get extended by 5-mins automatically, providing a level playing field for all bidders.

If you research recent "Jobs" auctions sales on GD from over the summer, you will notice several names which are owned by HD. They were likely using proxy bids in the range of $200-400. I've seen some names where they paid more. Obviously, these names fit a certain profile where they're able to acquire for under $200 and then list for $6,000-7,000 more or less.

Here's a name which I won at auction for $200. I own RetailSalesAssociate.com and was interested in acquiring RSAJobs.com. RetailJobs.com sold for $15,000 back in February 2020 so it was a good opportunity to own another related name. HD was also interested and placed a proxy bid in the last five minutes prior to my bid. My proxy bid was set above $200 which surpassed the max amount set by HD. The remaining minutes ticked down and I won the auction.

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No foul play, certainly no sniping involved, and I got the name I wanted for a price I was willing to spend.

But if the maximum you want to spend is $11, then certainly go with the closeout and take your chances.

Good Luck!
 
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HD is not bidding on names just because you have a bid placed. They are very opportunistic planning their acquisitions in advance and bidding in the closing minutes using proxy bids.

If you wait until it goes to the $11 closeout, you run the risk of it getting sniped by the API users. I think you're better off bidding during the closing minutes when the price is still at $12.

As for HD having an unfair advantage on the $12 side -- I don't think this is even possible due to the fact that the action will get extended by 5-mins automatically, providing a level playing field for all bidders.

If you research recent "Jobs" auctions sales on GD from over the summer, you will notice several names which are owned by HD. They were likely using proxy bids in the range of $200-400. I've seen some names where they paid more. Obviously, these names fit a certain profile where they're able to acquire for under $200 and then list for $6,000-7,000 more or less.

Here's a name which I won at auction for $200. I own RetailSalesAssociate.com and was interested in acquiring RSAJobs.com. RetailJobs.com sold for $15,000 back in February 2020 so it was a good opportunity to own another related name. HD was also interested and placed a proxy bid in the last five minutes prior to my bid. My proxy bid was set above $200 which surpassed the max amount set by HD. The remaining minutes ticked down and I won the auction.

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No foul play, certainly no sniping involved, and I got the name I wanted for a price I was willing to spend.

But if the maximum you want to spend is $11, then certainly go with the closeout and take your chances.

Good Luck!
So it is more like HD not wanting attention than our conspiracy theory that HD waiting for humans to make a first move, to guage demand?

They simply place a proxy bid with their pre determined Price at the last minute if what you are saying is true.
 
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HD is not bidding on names just because you have a bid placed. They are very opportunistic planning their acquisitions in advance and bidding in the closing minutes using proxy bids.

If you wait until it goes to the $11 closeout, you run the risk of it getting sniped by the API users. I think you're better off bidding during the closing minutes when the price is still at $12.

As for HD having an unfair advantage on the $12 side -- I don't think this is even possible due to the fact that the action will get extended by 5-mins automatically, providing a level playing field for all bidders.

If you research recent "Jobs" auctions sales on GD from over the summer, you will notice several names which are owned by HD. They were likely using proxy bids in the range of $200-400. I've seen some names where they paid more. Obviously, these names fit a certain profile where they're able to acquire for under $200 and then list for $6,000-7,000 more or less.

Here's a name which I won at auction for $200. I own RetailSalesAssociate.com and was interested in acquiring RSAJobs.com. RetailJobs.com sold for $15,000 back in February 2020 so it was a good opportunity to own another related name. HD was also interested and placed a proxy bid in the last five minutes prior to my bid. My proxy bid was set above $200 which surpassed the max amount set by HD. The remaining minutes ticked down and I won the auction.

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No foul play, certainly no sniping involved, and I got the name I wanted for a price I was willing to spend.

But if the maximum you want to spend is $11, then certainly go with the closeout and take your chances.

Good Luck!
So it is more like HD not wanting attention than our conspiracy theory that HD waiting for humans to make a first move, to guage demand?

They simply place a proxy bid with their pre determined Price at the last minute if what you are saying is true.
I'd say its more likely a case of their API access let's them query for names with bids and assumes those names have some kind of desirability so then posts a proxy bid. It is also correct that any half decent name will be sniped by then when the name enters closeout so that is by no means a guarantee. The above mentioned thread going into more details of theories. A few people (myself included) have just stopped using GD auctions. It's pretty much a con.
 
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Where do you buy then?
Namejet has those shill bidders, and so on..
 
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Where do you buy then?
Namejet has those shill bidders, and so on..
Snapnames (which is kinda NJ but never had an issue with shills as far as I know), private buys and here on NP. Full disclosure - I don't buy that many names, maybe one a month. I realise GD is probably the biggest resource for large scale portfolios but there are other places to buy expiring names (Epik, Namesilo, Namepal, Name etc) just check expirednames.net.
 
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Snapnames (which is kinda NJ but never had an issue with shills as far as I know), private buys and here on NP. Full disclosure - I don't buy that many names, maybe one a month. I realise GD is probably the biggest resource for large scale portfolios but there are other places to buy expiring names (Epik, Namesilo, Namepal, Name etc) just check expirednames.net.
I browse all marketplace, but there isn't anything similar to the GDD closeouts. Maybe name liquidate but I need to up my searching game lol
 
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I browse all marketplace, but there isn't anything similar to the GDD closeouts. Maybe name liquidate but I need to up my searching game lol
I agree that GD have the biggest inventory but that also means they have the most amount of eyes on each auction. Add the "HD tax" as its become known and you're paying mid $xxx for names that are worth mid $xx to most.

Looking for good names in the list is almost a full time job in itself. Unless you're dedicating hours a day to it you're only going to find a minimal amount of names worth buying. Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder and a lot of people are buying and selling names I wouldn't even hand register.
 
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Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder and a lot of people are buying and selling names I wouldn't even hand register.

True but I guess that is law if large numbers. One Unique buyer meeting one unique seller, otherwise it is hard to replicate.

I like to follow the crowd myself, and I filter by number of bids and if there less than 4 bidder, i don't bid haha
 
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Well, today is the last day I'm partaking in GD auctions and closeouts, at least that's the plan. I don't mind spending time and money on domains but GD through their actions and inaction are *wasting* my time and that I am not fond of.
 
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If it's a good name and someone has bid on it hours before the end, then the name is tainted bc then huge domains will end up getting it, so it doesn't hurt to put in a second bid right now in order to "punish" the person who put in the bid that early (and if by some miracle you end up getting it at that price, then all the better). Then you can move onto sniping other, better names that you can get for just the normal price.

I think these people put in early bids because they don't feel like waiting around for the close or they have something else to do. Or they could be just some dude and have no knowledge of godaddy or domaining. If they put in a bid on a crappy domain early then sometimes HD won't snipe it because the name sucks, so the person will end up getting those domains for only $12. This reinforces this idea that putting in an early bid works.

Better to figure out how to snipe the names at closeout.. I keep hearing about this API, is this the one where we have to pay like $50 a month for API reseller access, or is there a free API code instead of having to hit refresh for 20 minutes straight with your heart pounding out your chest.. only to see the name, put it in your cart, then you get the message "this domain is no longer available"?
 
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If it's a good name and someone has bid on it hours before the end, then the name is tainted bc then huge domains will end up getting it, so it doesn't hurt to put in a second bid right now in order to "punish" the person who put in the bid that early (and if by some miracle you end up getting it at that price, then all the better). Then you can move onto sniping other, better names that you can get for just the normal price.

I think these people put in early bids because they don't feel like waiting around for the close or they have something else to do. Or they could be just some dude and have no knowledge of godaddy or domaining. If they put in a bid on a crappy domain early then sometimes HD won't snipe it because the name sucks, so the person will end up getting those domains for only $12. This reinforces this idea that putting in an early bid works.

Better to figure out how to snipe the names at closeout.. I keep hearing about this API, is this the one where we have to pay like $50 a month for API reseller access, or is there a free API code instead of having to hit refresh for 20 minutes straight with your heart pounding out your chest.. only to see the name, put it in your cart, then you get the message "this domain is no longer available"?
GD only give API access to special chosen customers (those that spend the most money). This was discussed in the earlier thread after @Joe Styler said it was an even playing field only to go on to say that not everyone was allowed API access (straight contradiction). The GD expired/closeout auctions are a straight up con and anyone with half a brain can see it.
 
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All people have to do to stop this is to stop bidding on gd auctions. GD would be in full panic mode after 1 day because they would be making losses on expired domains.

Then they would cut the incentives/deals given to hd because I'm sure HD can't keep buying trash for hundreds and stay profitable without shady business.
 
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HD is not bidding on names just because you have a bid placed. They are very opportunistic planning their acquisitions in advance and bidding in the closing minutes using proxy bids.

If you wait until it goes to the $11 closeout, you run the risk of it getting sniped by the API users. I think you're better off bidding during the closing minutes when the price is still at $12.

As for HD having an unfair advantage on the $12 side -- I don't think this is even possible due to the fact that the action will get extended by 5-mins automatically, providing a level playing field for all bidders.

If you research recent "Jobs" auctions sales on GD from over the summer, you will notice several names which are owned by HD. They were likely using proxy bids in the range of $200-400. I've seen some names where they paid more. Obviously, these names fit a certain profile where they're able to acquire for under $200 and then list for $6,000-7,000 more or less.

Here's a name which I won at auction for $200. I own RetailSalesAssociate.com and was interested in acquiring RSAJobs.com. RetailJobs.com sold for $15,000 back in February 2020 so it was a good opportunity to own another related name. HD was also interested and placed a proxy bid in the last five minutes prior to my bid. My proxy bid was set above $200 which surpassed the max amount set by HD. The remaining minutes ticked down and I won the auction.

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No foul play, certainly no sniping involved, and I got the name I wanted for a price I was willing to spend.

But if the maximum you want to spend is $11, then certainly go with the closeout and take your chances.

Good Luck!
NOPE, HD waits until you bid then they come in. If they did a proxy bid it would show up at a bid. So there goes that theory.
 
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So it is more like HD not wanting attention than our conspiracy theory that HD waiting for humans to make a first move, to guage demand?

They simply place a proxy bid with their pre determined Price at the last minute if what you are saying is true.
If they put a price in at last minute then the auction would extend 5 minutes. I never see this happen as them as first bidder. But hey someone show me a screen shot otherwise. They can do what they want I could care less but it is not in there interest to make less money.
 
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Hi everyone,

We started participating in Auction including GoDaddy expired domain few months ago and there, after two weeks in mid-July, we realised that few companies have formed a monopoly there. We did bidders profiling, studied their pattern and accordingly at the beginning of August changed our bidding process. That is really fun and we are thoroughly enjoying competing with Bots :)

After 15 days of this costly experiment (during the initial stage when we were not aware of their threshold limit which is based on the quality of domain based on some algorithm I guess, we end up buying), our domain acquisition rate through bid is still less than 1% but our success rate is 100% because in all those bids where we engage we decide the price and poor Bot has to compete. Here we rediscovered the limitation of machine learning and artificial intelligence over human's emotional and unpredictable mind. So use your emotional quotient and increase the bidding price and force them to change their bidding policy.

Enjoy!
 
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Hi everyone,

We started participating in Auction including GoDaddy expired domain few months ago and there, after two weeks in mid-July, we realised that few companies have formed a monopoly there. We did bidders profiling, studied their pattern and accordingly at the beginning of August changed our bidding process. That is really fun and we are thoroughly enjoying competing with Bots :)

After 15 days of this costly experiment (during the initial stage when we were not aware of their threshold limit which is based on the quality of domain based on some algorithm I guess, we end up buying), our domain acquisition rate through bid is still less than 1% but our success rate is 100% because in all those bids where we engage we decide the price and poor Bot has to compete. Here we rediscovered the limitation of machine learning and artificial intelligence over human's emotional and unpredictable mind. So use your emotional quotient and increase the bidding price and force them to change their bidding policy.

Enjoy!

The community concensus is that the pattern is 8-12% of the value appraised by the godaddy appraisal bot. Does your analysis match this?
 
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I don't know godaddy bot but we encountered on several time the bidder ID mentioned on heading and then we found $200, and maximum $620 there limit of course depend on domain quality and may be some other complex programming and algorithm. So if we like any domain we fight till end specially if we are competing with automode else we left before the threshold price.
 
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It just might help you to know that it is believed by some that they will bid up to 8-12% of the appraisal value this bot gives you: https://uk.godaddy.com/domain-value-appraisal

It might help you in bidding against them. It also might help if you could confirm or deny this with your stats.
 
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