The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[Domainace]

Furthermore, Mueller wrote: “Russia’s actions were a threat to America’s democracy. It was critical that they be investigated and understood.”

I think people like Mueller are a far greater threat to America's democracy than Russia. All Russia can do is try to plant fake news and rumors, basically the same thing the USA has been doing to every country in the world for decades (including Russia).

But Mueller can destroy the country from the inside, from a seat of power.

 

[Cannuck]

I think people like Mueller are a far greater threat to America's democracy than Russia. All Russia can do is try to plant fake news and rumors, basically the same thing the USA has been doing to every country in the world for decades (including Russia).

But Mueller can destroy the country from the inside, from a seat of power.

So you're saying the US ought to do away with Founding fathers' political checks and balances?

Agreed the Mueller investigation was a sh*tshow. Aimed at understanding Russia's role in the 2016 election, Trump's involvement was merely a sideline. What has truly been revelealed to the American public, is how their president will use the power of his office to protect himself (and his inner circle). Trump is a demagogue that the Founders designed the Constitution to protect against.

 

[Domainace]

So you're saying the US ought to do away with Founding fathers' political checks and balances?

What checks and balances? Unless you are talking about checks written out to cash, and bank balances?

What has truly been revelealed to the American public, is how their president will use the power of his office to protect himself (and his inner circle). Trump is a demagogue that the Founders designed the Constitution to protect against.

I agree that Obama greatly abused his office to protect his inner circle, and I only see that getting worse. Demagogue? Not really. I see nothing out of the ordinary except that Trump is blunt, vulgar and doesn't lie so smoothly as previous presidents.

If one looks at the facts, the actual actions, not much has changed under Trump.

I also disagree that the Mueller sham was "aimed at understanding Russia's role in the election." It was aimed at unseating an elected president. No more, no less. The Dems have no objection to foreign influence in elections, as long as they believe it is helping them.

Take off those rose colored glasses. Our political leaders are almost all criminals. None but a handful of them are there to serve anyone but themselves.

 

[Cannuck]

What checks and balances? Unless you are talking about checks written out to cash, and bank balances?

A system built upon three branches of government to check and balance one another’s powers. Trump’s personal constitution is deeply at odds with the restraints demanded by the U.S. Constitution.

I agree that Obama greatly abused his office to protect his inner circle, and I only see that getting worse.

Trump pardons Stone - a man who lies under oath to Congress to cover-up - see any conflict of interest issues?

Obama commuted the prison sentences of 330 federal inmates, particularly drug offenders, on Thursday, January 19, 2017, his last full day in office. Obama did so, as one of his final acts in office, in order to reduce what he viewed as overly harsh punishments.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Barack_Obama

Demagogue? Not really. I see nothing out of the ordinary except that Trump is blunt, vulgar and doesn't lie so smoothly as previous presidents.

Demagogue is a subtle term for him.

Not much has changed under Trump.

yeah right... give the Trump Party four more years.

I also disagree that the Mueller sham was "aimed at understanding Russia's role in the election." It was aimed at unseating an elected president. No more, no less. The Dems have no objection to foreign influence in elections, as long as they believe it is helping them.

Take off those rose colored glasses. Our political leaders are almost all criminals. None but a handful of them are there to serve anyone but themselves.

I would say that applies to both Democrats and Republicans, but especially the Trump Party.

 

[Namersen]

In Rare Public Comments, Mueller Defends Prosecution of Roger Stone
Breaking his silence, the former special counsel rebutted President Trump’s attacks on the Russia investigation and said Mr. Stone had been prosecuted “because he committed federal crimes.”

Mr. Stone has been prosecuted because he signed articles like this, triggering Mueller's personal grudges:
The Uranium One Treason: Why Robert Mueller Must Be Removed And His Partisan Hit Squad Dismantled

Mueller’s decades as an establishment federal careerist, which only ended with his ceding of the FBI’s top job to his good pal, criminal leaker and manipulator Big Jim Comey, offer more than enough grounds for Mueller’s disqualification for merely the appearances of impropriety and professional conflicts of interest they raise. They are of such incestuous nature as it concerns key figures of the conspiracy to remove the president that Mueller should never even have been considered for appointment.

That Mueller took the special counsel appointment without even blinking, despite his own close professional and personal connections to key figures implicated in the Department of Justice, National Security Agency and FBI corruption in service to ulterior partisan ends, via the Clinton crime family, was a major red flag, right from the beginning.

A system built upon three branches of government to check and balance one another’s powers.

The balances no longer work as intended when the system is rigged, everyone knows that Roger Stone was tried in a kangaroo court, some links to read in case you guys didn't look into it at the time:

Roger Stone jury foreperson's anti-Trump social media posts surface after she defends DOJ prosecutors

[Tomeka] Hart even posted specifically about the Stone case before she was selected to sit on the jury, as she retweeted an argument mocking those who considered Stone's dramatic arrest in a predawn raid by a federal tactical team to be excessive force. She also suggested President Trump and his supporters are racist and praised the investigation conducted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which ultimately led to Stone's prosecution.

It appears that the jury in the Roger Stone trial was tainted

From beginning to end, Robert Mueller and his squad used Roger Stone as an object lesson to frighten anyone who had high-level contact with the Trump campaign in the lead-up to and immediately after the election. Stone is not a savory character, but the treatment meted out to Stone, now 67, had a revolting aura of police state hanging about it from the start. Now it turns out that this un-American police state set up a kangaroo trial to shuttle Stone into prison.

Notice How Democrats are Never Indicted?

Apparently, in America today the only people who should fear prosecution are those who disagree with the “ones we’ve been waiting for” because if you’re a Democrat, you can’t get arrested in this town.

4 Reasons the Roger Stone Trial Matters

In the early stages of jury selection, Judge Jackson has made it clear that a potential juror could harbor hostility toward President Trump and sit in judgment of Stone on this politically-charged trial. Jackson immediately warned Stone’s legal team that federal employees who worked for Obama could not be excluded from the jury pool.

That's some high functioning empathy showing there, wishing for the victim of a sham political show trial to go to the very prison from which pedos and sex offenders have been recently released out of fear of the virus.

 

[mr-x]

 

[mr-x]

Trump pardons Stone - a man who lies under oath to Congress to cover-up - see any conflict of interest issues?

Obama pardoned unrepentant terrorist. Bill Clinton not only pardoned people for money, he pardoned more FLAN terrorist than Obama!

The most controversial: Oscar Rivera, convicted in 1981 on charges of seditious conspiracy, robbery, and transportation of firearms and explosives charges. Actual domestic terrorist and traitor.

Here is list of cop murderers, terrorist, traitors that Obama gave clemency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Barack_Obama#:~:text=By the end of his,individuals convicted of federal crimes.

Rodger Stone was prosecuted because he worked for the Trump campaign. Period.

 

[JB Lions]

RINO's trying to excuse criminality, breaking the law. I don't think any actual Conservatives post in this thread.

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Chris Wallace challenges Betsy DeVos for illegally trying to cut school funding

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282304952749228034

Superintendent for one of US's largest public school systems has a message for DeVos: 'You can't put every kid back in a school'
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/politics/fairfax-county-schools-superintendent-interview/index.html

 

[JB Lions]

Aye, Florida just broke a U.S. record, most cases in a single day. If they were a country, they would be 4th. We're now #3 in the U.S. in number of cases. I think we have a good shot at being #1. If that rate continues, we should be California in about a week, New York by the end of the month.

Florida shatters US record of single-day Covid-19 cases

The Florida Department of Health reported 15,299 new Covid-19 cases Sunday, the highest number of new cases reported in a single day by any state since the coronavirus pandemic began.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

 

[mr-x]

 

[JB Lions]

David Hogg owning the NRA again. I hope the NRA gets more active next few months, so they can join in helping out Biden.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282388067714818049

 

[mr-x]

RINO's trying to excuse criminality, breaking the law. I don't think any actual Conservatives post in this thread.

Incorrect. Offering comparisons because liberals and never trumpers are pearl clutching and feigning outrage. As clemency goes, this was a nothing burger.

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Chris Wallace challenges Betsy DeVos for illegally trying to cut school funding

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282304952749228034

Superintendent for one of US's largest public school systems has a message for DeVos: 'You can't put every kid back in a school'
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/politics/fairfax-county-schools-superintendent-interview/index.html

 

[JB Lions]

Damn, Trump keeps getting handled in every new poll coming out.

Law and Order, people prefer Biden 49%


Race relations, people prefer Biden


Coronavirus, Trump at all time low of 67% disapproval
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/10/trump-coronavirus-approval-rating-low-355894


Swing States
Joe Biden builds 5-point lead over Donald Trump in red Texas as some voters sour on handling of virus
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/pub...ed-texas-as-voters-sour-on-handling-of-virus/


Betting Odds average, Biden up almost 20
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/


Latest Rasmussen poll, Trump's favorite polling place, Biden +10
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...ections/election_2020/white_house_watch_jul08

No signs of hope in sight.

 

[mr-x]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282152873866997763

David Hogg owning the NRA again.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282388067714818049

If you're retarded or don't understand what the #2A says, I guess you could call that an own. A self-own.

 

[mr-x]

USA Today Claims US Marines Using Nazi Symbol in Their Logo.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...n-shirt-design-similar-nazi-eagle/5414393002/

 

[JB Lions]

Rift grows between Trump, health experts amid coronavirus surge
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...amid-coronavirus-surge/ar-BB16ChOl?li=BBnb7Kz

So they're throwing Fauci, an actual expert under the bus. Served under 6 Presidents. Because he won't bow down to Mr. The Virus Will Magically Disappear and is out there speaking the truth, whileTrump lies his ass off. So again, Trump put himself in a no win situation. Fauci will continue speaking the truth, which doesn't help Trump. If Trump fires him, that will backfire on Trump.

 

[mr-x]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280827220227915782

 

[JB Lions]

Another poll just came out:

Remember, Florida is totally out of control with this virus. Biden will take Florida. 6 point lead in latest poll.

Biden leads Trump in Florida, tied in Arizona and Texas: poll
https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...ump-in-florida-tied-in-arizona-and-texas-poll

Remember what I posted earlier, the reality some here like to dodge.

As the Coronavirus numbers go up, Trump's poll numbers go down. Simple equation. And there is no sign this is going to go down anytime soon, at least not in the next 4 months.

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Watch a possible last ditch effort from Trump and he magically becomes a mask fan. Even that move backfires, since people will know if he did that, it would be purely political. And some here said Trump was Mr. Art of War Keeps getting himself in 1 no win situation after another.

 

[GILSAN]

Notice How Democrats are Never Indicted?
Apparently, in America today the only people who should fear prosecution are those who disagree with the “ones we’ve been waiting for” because if you’re a Democrat, you can’t get arrested in this town.

When you have the vast majority of Liberal Media, Social Media, Hollywood, the Music industry, judges, the LGBTxyz community, schools, colleges and even big corporations all routing for Liberalism, you are gonna get this imbalance and bias...

 

[mr-x]

I read there is a 10+ week backlog for police to retire from the NYPD. Department is only processing 40 to 50 retirement notices per day.

 

[JB Lions]

https://twitter.com/search?q="Dr. Fauci"&src=trend_click

Already happening. Fauci vs. Trump. This is heating up.

"In the past two months, Trump has played golf more times than he has met with Dr. Fauci."

"Predictably, the knives are out for Dr. Fauci, a supremely qualified expert on outbreaks whose sin seems to be speaking truth to power and consistently outshining the president in trustworthiness."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1281921179960344576

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282405414630498304

I like this idea, can Biden to this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282392645986160640

 

[mr-x]

https://twitter.com/search?q="Dr. Fauci"&src=trend_click

Already happening. Fauci vs. Trump. This is heating up.

"In the past two months, Trump has played golf more times than he has met with Dr. Fauci."

"Predictably, the knives are out for Dr. Fauci, a supremely qualified expert on outbreaks whose sin seems to be speaking truth to power and consistently outshining the president in trustworthiness."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1281921179960344576

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282405414630498304

I like this idea, can Biden to this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282392645986160640

 

[Samer]

When he finally puts on a mask, it makes headlines...sad. I suppose 140K US C-19 deaths is enough proof.

What’s sad is the witch hunt;

Outrage over not wearing a mask

Outrage over not covering; beats the Biden
“looped earring” mask look. Hypocrites.

 

[mr-x]

Professor who accurately predicted Trump’s 2016 win ups the ante ‘bigly’ for 2020

The professor who predicted President Donald Trump had an 87% chance of winning the 2016 election isn’t being persuaded by the liberal media naysayers reporting that the president’s reelection chances are in trouble.
In fact, Professor Helmut Norpoth is upping the ante in the 2020 election, saying Trump has a 91% chance of winning in November.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/0...s-2016-win-ups-the-ante-bigly-for-2020-942376

 

[Namersen]

When you have the vast majority of Liberal Media, Social Media, Hollywood, the Music industry, judges, the LGBTxyz community, schools, colleges and even big corporations all routing for Liberalism, you are gonna get this imbalance and bias...

A U.S. Army email inviting employees to listening sessions on race and diversity referred to an attachment to the email, which contained a graphic that said the phrase, “Make America Great Again” is evidence of white supremacy, according to a copy of the email obtained exclusively by Breitbart News.

The full list of “convert [sic] white supremacy,” behaviors which are labeled racist but “social accetable [sic],” reads:

• Calling The Police on Black People
• White Silence
• Colorblindness
• White Parents Self-Segregating Neighborhoods & Schools
• Eurocentric Curriculum
• White Savior Complex
• Spiritual Bypassing
• Education Funding from Property Taxes
• Discriminatory Lending
• Mass Incarceration
• Respectability Politics
• Tone Policing
• Racist Mascots
• Not Believing Experiencing of BIPOC [Black, Indigenous, People of Color]
• Paternalism
• “Make America Great Again”
• Blaming the Victim
• Hiring Discrimination
• “You Don’t Sound Black”
• “Don’t Blame Me, I Never Owned Slaves”
• Bootstrap Theory
• School-to-Prison Pipeline
• Police Murdering BIPOC
• Virtuous Victim Narrative
• Higher Infant & Maternal Mortality Rate for BIPOC
• “But What About Me?”
• “All Lives Matter”
• BIPOC as Halloween Costumes
• Racial Profiling
• Denial of White Privilege
• Prioritizing White Voices as Experts
• Treating Kids of Color as Adults
• Inequitable Healthcare
• Assuming Good Intentions Are Enough
• Not Challengin [sic] Racist Jokes
• Cultural Appropriation
• Eurocentric Beauty Standards
• Anti-Immigration Policies
• Considering AAVE [African-American Vernacular English] “Uneducated”
• Denial of Racism
• Tokenism
• English-Only Initiatives
• Self-Appointed White Ally
• Exceptionalism
• Fearing People of Color
• Police Brutality
• Fetishizing BIPOC
• Meritocracy Myth
• “You’re So Articulate”
• Celebration of Columbus Day
• Claiming Reverse-Racism
• Paternalism
• Weaponized Whiteness
• Expecting BIPOC to Teach White People
• Believeing [sic] We Are “Post-Racial”
• “But We’re All One Big Human Family”/”There’s Only One Human Race”
• Housing Discrimination

https://twitter.com/x/status/1281386100699865090

Other replies in the twitter thread...

• Things like this almost always originate from DEOMI, Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute located at Patrick Air Force Base, Florida. It's the DoD's in house Liberal think tank for the kind of crap in that slide.
• I shrugged off the Obama senior officer appointments and promotions like a fool. Not one to take conspiracy issues seriously but it is plain to see the foundation was laid 2008-2016.
• it's too late to speak up now, the revolution is over. we are now in the phase where revolutionary ideals are being institutionalized and made law

It gives the NFAC guy's "We're in your house" a slightly more nuanced meaning. Well, brainwashed liberal kids are in the house too.

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I like this idea, can Biden to this?

Not sure about Biden, but maybe Cuomo? Something tells me they belong together, in the same institution.