sansmidman
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There is nothing wrong with being a bad person. There is a fundamental flaw built into the human psyche and the foundation of that flaw has to do with the fact that we are tribal. Before I can point to what this flaw is, I need to use another tribal identity creature on this planet as an example. Chimpanzees. They have a tribal identity. Their loyalty is to their clan or in other words they have no loyalty to the ones that are not part of their clan. Tribal identities have to be constantly maintained and in the Chimpanzee world, this looks like territorial disputes as their tribal identity is attached to a physical boundary. Sometimes these disputes can even lead to war where a clan be completely annihilated. Would you say the chimps that won are the bad ones and the ones that died are good ones? Of course we can say they are animals and that nature is brutal and we are not like them. We are special, right???
Let's go back to humans. We too have deadly territorial disputes but we are lot more complicated than a chimpanzee and we can do things no chimps can do such as language as we use it. And here lies the fundamental flaw, it happened when humans began to attach their tribal identity to words especially by adding judgements to those words. As I mentioned in the "Karen" thread, the is how the modern human tribal identity looks like. The "Karen" tribe allows us to feel morally superior because we are not part of the morally inferior karens. Language that sets us apart and allows us to communicate lot more efficiently than any other creature also allows us to go deeper into a tribal identity, far beyond the imagination of any chimp. We can use words to identify who belongs to what tribe and we don't need to think twice about a person as long as we know what tribe they belong to.
Consequences:
The biggest consequence of tribal identity species creating a civilization is that everywhere you look, you would see team vs team for that is the only way a tribal species can make sense of things. It would be damn near impossible for them to work together as one species representing one planet
Seahawks vs 49ers
Left vs Right
Cops vs Civilians
When I say "bad person", you didn't have to think twice about not wanting to associate with whoever was in the "bad person" tribe, did you? There is nothing wrong about being a bad or hateful person except the judgements attached to those words. It is like our 'Overlord and Savior, Emperor Palpatine' said:
Let's go back to humans. We too have deadly territorial disputes but we are lot more complicated than a chimpanzee and we can do things no chimps can do such as language as we use it. And here lies the fundamental flaw, it happened when humans began to attach their tribal identity to words especially by adding judgements to those words. As I mentioned in the "Karen" thread, the is how the modern human tribal identity looks like. The "Karen" tribe allows us to feel morally superior because we are not part of the morally inferior karens. Language that sets us apart and allows us to communicate lot more efficiently than any other creature also allows us to go deeper into a tribal identity, far beyond the imagination of any chimp. We can use words to identify who belongs to what tribe and we don't need to think twice about a person as long as we know what tribe they belong to.
Consequences:
The biggest consequence of tribal identity species creating a civilization is that everywhere you look, you would see team vs team for that is the only way a tribal species can make sense of things. It would be damn near impossible for them to work together as one species representing one planet
Seahawks vs 49ers
Left vs Right
Cops vs Civilians
When I say "bad person", you didn't have to think twice about not wanting to associate with whoever was in the "bad person" tribe, did you? There is nothing wrong about being a bad or hateful person except the judgements attached to those words. It is like our 'Overlord and Savior, Emperor Palpatine' said:
"Good is a point of view, Anakin"