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Are you going to develop some of your domains?

  • This poll is still running and the standings may change.
  • Definitely plan to develop my domains

    47 
    votes
    32.2%
  • Perhaps develop some of my domains

    38 
    votes
    26.0%
  • Might try to develop one domain to see how it goes

    18 
    votes
    12.3%
  • No, just after selling my domains

    33 
    votes
    22.6%
  • Why work when domaining is so easy and it will make me a millionaire within the year

    10 
    votes
    6.8%
  • This poll is still running and the standings may change.

That's right 'we are the idiots'.

Why is it that the vast majority of us do not develop our domains into websites.

- Is it cost?
- Is it time?
- Is it lack of knowledge on the domain subject?
- Is it not knowing where to start building a website?
- Or is it because of laziness and just after a quick buck by reselling the domain name without doing any work?

Of course there is another option that should be added to the list, or is it because we do not think our domain names are not as good as we try to convince others that they are and 'they' should develop them into a website?

Of course we all know that a developed website with visitors is worth far more from affiliate income or even the sale of the website than just the domain name by itself that might be able to be turned into such, but very few domainers actually go on to develop websites on their domain.

Even if you cannot develop a website yourself through lack of knowledge on the subject (which can be learned anyway), or lack the ability to build a website (there are loads of programs to help you on the web), then you can hire people to do it for you from website designers to content writers they are all available for hire.

Come on be honest. Why do you not develop the domains you own?
 
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That's right 'we are the idiots'.

Why is it that the vast majority of us do not develop our domains into websites.

- Is it cost?
- Is it time?
- Is it lack of knowledge on the domain subject?
- Is it not knowing where to start building a website?
- Or is it because of laziness and just after a quick buck by reselling the domain name without doing any work?

Of course there is another option that should be added to the list, or is it because we do not think our domain names are not as good as we try to convince others that they are and 'they' should develop them into a website?

Of course we all know that a developed website with visitors is worth far more from affiliate income or even the sale of the website than just the domain name by itself that might be able to be turned into such, but very few domainers actually go on to develop websites on their domain.

Even if you cannot develop a website yourself through lack of knowledge on the subject (which can be learned anyway), or lack the ability to build a website (there are loads of programs to help you on the web), then you can hire people to do it for you from website designers to content writers they are all available for hire.

Come on be honest. Why do you not develop the domains you own?
I used to develop a lot almost ten years back, then left the game of development. Still have a ton lined up for development, hopefully will get back into that game sometime. "hopefully, lol"
 
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Why no already developing option?
 
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I see there is still a high level of animosity within the industry. I simply asked a question and reasoning why 'I' think we as domainers are letting money all too often slip through our fingers and some responders demonstrate such inward and negative, indeed almost defeatist, attitudes in their replies.
No, you didn't "simply ask a question". You called everybody here idiots. Right in the title.
 
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No, you didn't "simply ask a question". You called everybody here idiots. Right in the title.

OMG. Perhaps some people had better go and find their safe place. LOL
 
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Why no already developing option?

I presumed that those who are already developing their domains or at least some of them would have chosen the first option "Definitely plan to develop my domains".
 
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That's right 'we are the idiots'.

Why is it that the vast majority of us do not develop our domains into websites.

- Is it cost?
- Is it time?
- Is it lack of knowledge on the domain subject?
- Is it not knowing where to start building a website?
- Or is it because of laziness and just after a quick buck by reselling the domain name without doing any work?

Of course there is another option that should be added to the list, or is it because we do not think our domain names are not as good as we try to convince others that they are and 'they' should develop them into a website?

Of course we all know that a developed website with visitors is worth far more from affiliate income or even the sale of the website than just the domain name by itself that might be able to be turned into such, but very few domainers actually go on to develop websites on their domain.

Even if you cannot develop a website yourself through lack of knowledge on the subject (which can be learned anyway), or lack the ability to build a website (there are loads of programs to help you on the web), then you can hire people to do it for you from website designers to content writers they are all available for hire.

Come on be honest. Why do you not develop the domains you own?

For me its time. Purely time. It was hard enough to find time before the coronavirus but now that schools have been closed 75 days my wife and I have had to become teachers as well. My state is keeping schools (summer programs) closed through the end of August. So the insanity will continue. We both have to figure out how to work AND keep the kids busy AND not lose our income/jobs. Now we hear that NC schools are giving serious consideration to not returning children to 100% in-school learning in Fall 2020. So we're seriously considering moving now. I would love to develop my domains but time is the main issue. As I type this out my wife is trying her best to get the kids school work done, yes - on a holiday. They are so behind due to this virus that its very sad.
 
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I presumed that those who are already developing their domains or at least some of them would have chosen the first option "Definitely plan to develop my domains".
I voted
Why work when domaining is so easy and it will make me a millionaire within the year
 
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I voted
Why work when domaining is so easy and it will make me a millionaire within the year

Assuming you started domaining when you registered on NP means you have 5 months to go to make your million so as to be correct in your choice. Hopefully you will share the domains you have registered or bought and what you sold them for come October to show us all how right you were in your selection.
 
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I find development far more personally edifying and fulfilling than sifting through lists of domains for sale or about to drop (although I do that as well occasionally). I love to create projects that people enjoy visiting or using on a regular basis. Patience and consistency are important to both areas. But I prefer development (combined with quality domain acquisition). The closest thing I can compare it to is the feeling some get from shopping. I think there is dopamine released in the brain that brings a feeling of pleasure.

Of course, most domainers don't have the skills for development. But there are domainers/developers on this forum that are more than happy to provide assistance.

Creating something that benefits people is the best way to find a purpose to wake up every day and get to work. Even if that is only a portfolio site that helps people find domains to build their businesses on.
 
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Assuming you started domaining when you registered on NP means you have 5 months to go to make your million so as to be correct in your choice. Hopefully you will share the domains you have registered or bought and what you sold them for come October to show us all how right you were in your selection.
Lol. That flew right over your head & you took it literally.
 
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Even if you preach for an hour to a hard core domainer, he will not develop domains for a number of practical reasons, like lack of time, money,skills etc.
 
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Only because of the idiotic title of this thread, I voted "Why work when domaining is so easy and it will make me a millionaire within the year" .
 
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I presumed that those who are already developing their domains or at least some of them would have chosen the first option "Definitely plan to develop my domains".

Yeah, clearer defined poll would have been helpful )

I assumed that option means I definitely plan to develop all/most my domains.

So if I am developing some already and they are just 2% of my portfolio, I thought I don't fit the category )
 
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Two Things to Consider About Developing Domains.

1). PARKED AND PLATFORM PORTFOLIO SITES ARE 'DEVELOPED' (eCommerce) PAGES.
Every Domainer is a Developer. Its inherent in the act of domaining. Taking ownership and selling a domain is a development. How you do it, is the only question. Will the name get 'sandboxed' / banned from search due to neglect? Or, will your name gain value from a best practice development?

2). THERE IS NO PAGE.
"The page" is a print legacy concept. Cyberspace, a TV monitor 'frames' medium. Not only is 85% of web traffic video (because nobody wants, or has the time, to read everybody's pages), but the top sites are all Search, Video streaming & Social Networks. I don't think there's a single 'article' site left in the top 50.

Most importantly, 'the page' format is a data-trap door that hangs domainers. Put your necked-data into this noose-page framework, as conditioned, and the data-bots come to feed... triggering the trap-door, as 'the page' is just a digital construct in cyberspace used to feed data-broker ecosystems, big and small.

Personally, I video channel my domains; a couple dozen so far. The embeds scale well. The bots get fed keyword tags. And, using YouTube playlists, in custom players, plays along with Goog algos (to a certain point. I find that once my streams become 'competitive' they loose some functionality... so I'm increasingly hosting my own vids).

 
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Short answer: as a business model it is not worth it anymore to develop small websites.
 
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I am writing a blog post on domain development for NamePros. At this point, let me stress to avoid using complicated and bloated WordPress all-in-one themes. Assuming most domain development projects are powered by WordPress, of course. Use themes that are suited for your project, light, easy to edit, tightly coded to core WordPress, and avoid free themes. Stay tuned for more.
 
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I am writing a blog post on domain development for NamePros. At this point, let me stress to avoid using complicated and bloated WordPress all-in-one themes. Assuming most domain development projects are powered by WordPress, of course. Use themes that are suited for your project, light, easy to edit, tightly coded to core WordPress, and avoid free themes. Stay tuned for more.

@TCK - Your upcoming blog post will be one I eagerly await to read and indeed study. Thank you in advance.
 
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@eyedomainous - Just viewed the site in your signature, and very pleased I did. Good work IMO. (y)
 
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Two Things to Consider About Developing Domains.

1). PARKED AND PLATFORM PORTFOLIO SITES ARE 'DEVELOPED' (eCommerce) PAGES.
Every Domainer is a Developer. Its inherent in the act of domaining. Taking ownership and selling a domain is a development. How you do it, is the only question. Will the name get 'sandboxed' / banned from search due to neglect? Or, will your name gain value from a best practice development?

2). THERE IS NO PAGE.
"The page" is a print legacy concept. Cyberspace, a TV monitor 'frames' medium. Not only is 85% of web traffic video (because nobody wants, or has the time, to read everybody's pages), but the top sites are all Search, Video streaming & Social Networks. I don't think there's a single 'article' site left in the top 50.

Most importantly, 'the page' format is a data-trap door that hangs domainers. Put your necked-data into this noose-page framework, as conditioned, and the data-bots come to feed... triggering the trap-door, as 'the page' is just a digital construct in cyberspace used to feed data-broker ecosystems, big and small.

Personally, I video channel my domains; a couple dozen so far. The embeds scale well. The bots get fed keyword tags. And, using YouTube playlists, in custom players, plays along with Goog algos (to a certain point. I find that once my streams become 'competitive' they loose some functionality... so I'm increasingly hosting my own vids).

That's it - It's going to be all about voice and visual searches

Google & Pinterest Lens projects are just the beginning when it comes to visual search.....
Google search by photo's & Style ideas
Augmented reality being incorporated onto Google Maps....
Bing (Microsoft) have invested heavily in this area
 
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The major deal is keen Interest.

Before I got to know about domaining, I was learning how to develop on my own, though I found it to be exciting, but in the long run wasn't sure if it's what I really wanted because of the technicality involved(you can call me lazy 😂).

But when I got to know about domaining, waoh! it really sparked an unquenchable interest and excitement in me. A year plus into domaining and I still have that same interest, excitement and willingness to learn as it was from the onset. This is where I've decided to pitch my tent full-time.

I plan to develop my portfolio site, perhaps I find my finished work appealing, I'd develop some other few(but just as a hobby not for the seo, traffics and stuff). I'd take it gradually peradventure I decide to develop some few.
 
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I got interested in domaining for the purpose of buying better names to develop, made a few sales and dove in a bit deeper. Building sites is still my main thing. There's no option for "already am", so I picked "def. plan to" because I have some that I do plan to develop in addition to the ones I already have/am :)

You can take a handreg name that's barely worth renewing, put a website on it that earns $3 per day, now all of a sudden you can flip it for $3k.
Thanks Peak.Domains....as a result of your comment and this thread I just hand reg'd DiscoverScotch.com. A friend of mine from Glasgow and I host a Scotch Club twice a year, and I'm not sure if you know how big a deal Scotch is, but it's HUGE! Now all i need is a developer, and we'll split the profits. Does that make sense? Thanks again!
 
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Now all i need is a developer, and we'll split the profits. Does that make sense?

Sometimes, those deals make sense. I have experience with this, so I will share my thoughts broadly and in general...

I know someone who partnered with an SEO + content marketing firm because he had a domain worth $xxx,xxx (like actually worth that, got offers, etc not "estibot" value). In that example, it hasn't really worked out, but it can sometimes. The issue is that they are having trouble allocating resources to this project, since it's brand new and not earning anything yet, they are focusing on their existing clients/properties. This puts the domain owner in a bad spot, since he can't really move forward until his partners do. This is why its crucial to have a very clearly defined schedule / list of responsibilities and expectations / what happens if either party doesn't meet them. As a domain owner, this is something you would need to look out for. Also, if the site starts earning 1k, 5k, 10k per month and then they start to slack off and just collect the split, what happens? Need to think about + plan for all of this very carefully.

In your case, whether or not it makes sense for the developer will depend on what skills or time/effort you're bringing to the table, or what existing resources (For example if you had a big network of social media pages about drinking - that would be a big asset for a new site). It will also depend on what is expected of them.

Being able to take a brand new domain and turn it into a profitable website takes a diverse set of skills, often takes quite a bit of time and resources, and if someone can do that - they don't really need you if they can just find their own domain, unless you're also going to be doing x, y, z to bring value to them as well.

From the developer's point of view they're going to build a website... market it... create the content I imagine... generate all of the traffic... so you have to figure out how it's worthwhile for them to do this with you, instead of just buying their own domain and doing the same thing. What are you doing to earn your split of the profits, is what they will wonder. This is what you will need to sell them on. Why partner with you when they're the ones taking a domain and turning it into a profitable website? It could be that you'll be helping on the content, doing a ton of outreach to brands etc, covering all of the expenses like hosting, SEO, marketing, paying the writers that they manage, or other skills you have.

Whether or not a JV like this makes sense really comes down to what each partner brings to the table, if there are complementary skills, etc. I have teamed up with someone who is a master of on-page SEO. I provided the content, which took a lot more time than it took them to optimize it, but it took them years in the lab to develop their skills, too. I did more work on that project in terms of raw hours, but I also learned a ton and had these new skills for every subsequent thing I worked on.

I have also teamed up with someone who had a huge network of FB pages. I did all of the content (several articles every single day), I managed the social media, I curated ideas for articles, basically 90%-95% of the day-to-day work on this project for months and months, in exchange for just 10% of what the site earned when we sold it... but to this day, that is still one of my most lucrative endeavors, because the value that they brought to the table with their traffic source was so immense that it amplified the work I did in such an extreme way.

So if you're bringing traffic, resources, or other things that will amplify the work of the developer, it could be very worthwhile for them :)
 
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I think developed names could get better SERP
 
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Sometimes, those deals make sense. I have experience with this, so I will share my thoughts broadly and in general...

I know someone who partnered with an SEO + content marketing firm because he had a domain worth $xxx,xxx (like actually worth that, got offers, etc not "estibot" value). In that example, it hasn't really worked out, but it can sometimes. The issue is that they are having trouble allocating resources to this project, since it's brand new and not earning anything yet, they are focusing on their existing clients/properties. This puts the domain owner in a bad spot, since he can't really move forward until his partners do. This is why its crucial to have a very clearly defined schedule / list of responsibilities and expectations / what happens if either party doesn't meet them. As a domain owner, this is something you would need to look out for. Also, if the site starts earning 1k, 5k, 10k per month and then they start to slack off and just collect the split, what happens? Need to think about + plan for all of this very carefully.

In your case, whether or not it makes sense for the developer will depend on what skills or time/effort you're bringing to the table, or what existing resources (For example if you had a big network of social media pages about drinking - that would be a big asset for a new site). It will also depend on what is expected of them.

Being able to take a brand new domain and turn it into a profitable website takes a diverse set of skills, often takes quite a bit of time and resources, and if someone can do that - they don't really need you if they can just find their own domain, unless you're also going to be doing x, y, z to bring value to them as well.

From the developer's point of view they're going to build a website... market it... create the content I imagine... generate all of the traffic... so you have to figure out how it's worthwhile for them to do this with you, instead of just buying their own domain and doing the same thing. What are you doing to earn your split of the profits, is what they will wonder. This is what you will need to sell them on. Why partner with you when they're the ones taking a domain and turning it into a profitable website? It could be that you'll be helping on the content, doing a ton of outreach to brands etc, covering all of the expenses like hosting, SEO, marketing, paying the writers that they manage, or other skills you have.

Whether or not a JV like this makes sense really comes down to what each partner brings to the table, if there are complementary skills, etc. I have teamed up with someone who is a master of on-page SEO. I provided the content, which took a lot more time than it took them to optimize it, but it took them years in the lab to develop their skills, too. I did more work on that project in terms of raw hours, but I also learned a ton and had these new skills for every subsequent thing I worked on.

I have also teamed up with someone who had a huge network of FB pages. I did all of the content (several articles every single day), I managed the social media, I curated ideas for articles, basically 90%-95% of the day-to-day work on this project for months and months, in exchange for just 10% of what the site earned when we sold it... but to this day, that is still one of my most lucrative endeavors, because the value that they brought to the table with their traffic source was so immense that it amplified the work I did in such an extreme way.

So if you're bringing traffic, resources, or other things that will amplify the work of the developer, it could be very worthwhile for them :)

Thanks for your thorough answer....much appreciated(y) I can't go into much detail here, but if you send me a PM, I'll explain in more detail. What I can tell you is the guy I know from Glasgow is truly a Scotch aficionado, and he's actually hosted our scotch tastings for the last 6-7 years. He's just as critical for the success of DiscoverScotch.com as a developer, thus I'm proposing he gets 33.33%, the developer gets 33.33% and I get 33.33%. The guy is also a golfer, and I've been thinking of combining golf and scotch tasting trips to Scotland. Bottomline, I can't thank you enough for the idea:xf.smile:
 
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Sometimes, those deals make sense. I have experience with this, so I will share my thoughts broadly and in general...

I know someone who partnered with an SEO + content marketing firm because he had a domain worth $xxx,xxx (like actually worth that, got offers, etc not "estibot" value). In that example, it hasn't really worked out, but it can sometimes. The issue is that they are having trouble allocating resources to this project, since it's brand new and not earning anything yet, they are focusing on their existing clients/properties. This puts the domain owner in a bad spot, since he can't really move forward until his partners do. This is why its crucial to have a very clearly defined schedule / list of responsibilities and expectations / what happens if either party doesn't meet them. As a domain owner, this is something you would need to look out for. Also, if the site starts earning 1k, 5k, 10k per month and then they start to slack off and just collect the split, what happens? Need to think about + plan for all of this very carefully.

In your case, whether or not it makes sense for the developer will depend on what skills or time/effort you're bringing to the table, or what existing resources (For example if you had a big network of social media pages about drinking - that would be a big asset for a new site). It will also depend on what is expected of them.

Being able to take a brand new domain and turn it into a profitable website takes a diverse set of skills, often takes quite a bit of time and resources, and if someone can do that - they don't really need you if they can just find their own domain, unless you're also going to be doing x, y, z to bring value to them as well.

From the developer's point of view they're going to build a website... market it... create the content I imagine... generate all of the traffic... so you have to figure out how it's worthwhile for them to do this with you, instead of just buying their own domain and doing the same thing. What are you doing to earn your split of the profits, is what they will wonder. This is what you will need to sell them on. Why partner with you when they're the ones taking a domain and turning it into a profitable website? It could be that you'll be helping on the content, doing a ton of outreach to brands etc, covering all of the expenses like hosting, SEO, marketing, paying the writers that they manage, or other skills you have.

Whether or not a JV like this makes sense really comes down to what each partner brings to the table, if there are complementary skills, etc. I have teamed up with someone who is a master of on-page SEO. I provided the content, which took a lot more time than it took them to optimize it, but it took them years in the lab to develop their skills, too. I did more work on that project in terms of raw hours, but I also learned a ton and had these new skills for every subsequent thing I worked on.

I have also teamed up with someone who had a huge network of FB pages. I did all of the content (several articles every single day), I managed the social media, I curated ideas for articles, basically 90%-95% of the day-to-day work on this project for months and months, in exchange for just 10% of what the site earned when we sold it... but to this day, that is still one of my most lucrative endeavors, because the value that they brought to the table with their traffic source was so immense that it amplified the work I did in such an extreme way.

So if you're bringing traffic, resources, or other things that will amplify the work of the developer, it could be very worthwhile for them :)

This is gold! One of the most valuable detailed and info packed posts on this forum.
 
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