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Any experienced veteran domainer will tell you that it’s best to buy a better quality domain name on the aftermarket or on the drops than to hand register a lot of subpar and useless domains and I tend to agree with this considering that by buying domains on the aftermarket and on the drops you are actually tapping into the creativity and brain power of many people that have dabbled in to domains before you instead of just relying on your own perhaps limited knowledge and abilities to think of good domains.

But if you are going to hand register domains anyway at least you might want to sharpen your skills so perhaps you won’t just waste your money on collecting a lot of low quality and useless domains.

There are some websites that can help you come up with new domain ideas and perhaps those who have had good results with them can mention some of them in this thread, but it might take a little longer for automated websites to really understand every aspect of what they are suggesting, maybe in the near future AI can help us find some good domains, but until then I think that it might be best to rely on our own intuition and research to come up with some good domains or at least learn how to pick the gems in a long list of automatically generated domain suggestions.

Since most good domains are already taken it might be best to concentrate your efforts on new trends where there might still be some good opportunities left to find a nice domain, I personally like new technology trends and have noticed that a lot of good domains that were registered many years ago are becoming available again because the original registrants didn’t have the patience to wait for these new technologies to mature or that they just couldn’t bear the renewal charges and let their domains drop too soon, of course any domain that is worth its while is going to be grabbed by the bigger companies and those who have more resources available to them, but there might still be some good domains that fall through the cracks and don’t get noticed by anyone.

Another area of interest might be brandable domains in which you have to come up with a made up word or a variation or play on an existing word that can stand out amongst the thousands of other possibilities that are out there. There are a few threads about brandable domains that you might want to read first before getting involved in this category of hand registered domains.

As far as new trends go pick a popular keyword in a certain field which we can call the Root or Base, or Key element in your domain and then try to add words that complement it in the front of it or after it in order to come up with some RootElement+Word or Word+RootElement ideas for your domain (keep in mind that RootElement can be in the form of abbreviations like EV for electric vehicle and Word can be Noun, Verb, and Adjective or some of the more popular suffixes or prefixes in some cases) you shouldn’t be discouraged by the fact that many of your ideas might already be taken, after all if it was a good enough idea that occurred to you then you can bet that other people have also thought of it too, but if you check 20, 30, or 50 (or even 100) combinations eventually you might come across one that has fallen through the cracks and that has gone unnoticed by others.

When hand registering domain names its important not to go overboard and end up with too many domains that are hard to manage, ideally you might want to keep your portfolio very small and work on upgrading its quality by letting some of the lesser quality domains to drop and replacing them with better domains, but keep the size of you portfolio the same, because if you let it get too big then it will become very frustrating to sort it out and keep up with renewals.

Also don’t go too deep into a category that is only going to make sense to a small group of people, some technical terms even though might make sense to you in your field of expertise, but it might not make that much sense to the general public, so try to register domains that the average person can understand and appreciate.

When doing research to see if a domain is available be aware that there are a lot of prying eyes out there, some registrars and registries even give out the lists of domain and whois look ups and if you don’t register a domain name quickly someone might grab it before you have a chance to think about it or come up with the money to register it. This has been a problem in the domain Industry for a long time now and as unfair as it is for others to wrongly take advantage of your research (which amounts to insider trading), but apparently it continues to go in to this day.

Also don’t just give a Like for new hand registered domains just to please others, because you are not doing anyone a favor if you are not honest about the quality of their domains, and by liking the less quality domains you might be encouraging some to go down the wrong path and keep registering more useless domains.

If you have any tips concerning hand registering domains please feel welcomed to share it here, but keep in mind that this is not about whether hand registering domains is a good idea or not, this is more about teaching those who are wasting their money on low quality domains to be able to find better domains to hand register if they are going to do it anyway.

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Everyone’s opinions, tips, and analysis are welcomed, but keep your comments constructive, professional, and on topic. Personal attacks and belittling of others are not tolerated. If your domaining model and strategy don't agree with hand registering domains and that you don’t believe that anyone should be hand registering domains then this thread is not for you, this is to help those who already are going to hand register domains by teaching them how to come up with better ideas so that they won’t end up wasting their money on a lot of low quality and useless domains. Also If you provide any stats or info concerning domains or anything else that pertains to this thread be sure that they are factual and please indicate the source, otherwise if it's just your opinion then put IMO at the end of your post. (In My Opinion)

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I do hand regs in .com, .net, .org and other extensions using expired lists. I'm not sure does it classify as hand regs or expired :)

And for me .com is the worst performing extension in this context in terms of sales. I'm not English native speaker and I'm focused in two-words in .com.
Most of my sales are .net and .org with mid XXX price in averege (inbound only).

Here are my resent .com hand regs in appraisal section with some feedback.

It whould be nice to hear from someone who consistently sells hand regs in .com.
 
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It was just as satisfying to be honest. I enjoyed the thrill of racing to get them registered before someone beat me to it. I guess my future in domain name investing will be a little of both sides of the coin...in moderation of course.
Glad you have tried both. I think too many get in a routine of only one way to acquire, only hand-register, only in expired auctions, or in expired drops. There are many places to find domains at good prices, including on NamePros and the registrar marketplaces, and while more work the real pay-off is probably for those who track down the private places not listed for sale anywhere. I think a diverse set of ways to acquire domain names is all for the positive.

Best wishes for 2020! Thanks for sharing your experience.

Bob
 
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My best tip for how to register good domains;

Practice! Practice! Practice!

Unlike real estate where Location! Location! Location! is key, practicing your domain skills can be FREE!
Sort of like with golf, you can practice at home for free, or you can go to a driving range and pay to hit balls, or you can pay to take a lesson from a pro.

You can hone your skills anywhere anytime. I've mostly paid for my practice, but it's cheap. It cost me just $8.50 to buy a .com that's good for a year. In the US that's less than the price of eating breakfast, lunch or dinner out. I guess to some people it's like work, but it's play time for me, especially knowing the more you practice the better you get.

Finally...my wife teaches piano in her retirement years, and it's amazing for me to see the improvement for those who practice vs. those who don't. Then again, she has the occasional prodigy just like the occasional domain prodigy. However, even practice makes for a better prodigy.






 
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I do hand regs in .com, .net, .org and other extensions using expired lists. I'm not sure does it classify as hand regs or expired:)

I guess we have to come up with a new rule for that, a lot of the domains that we hand register might have been registered at some point in the past and then dropped sometimes several times over the course of time.

In my opinion if you register a domain immediately after it has expired and made available to register again then that might fall within the expired domain category especially if you have been monitoring that domain same as if you used a drop catching service, but if a certain time has elapsed (* lets say 5 days) for you to have registered a domain after it was expired and made available to the public again then that might qualify as a new hand registration.

In another words if other people have also had the opportunity to hand register the domain, but that you were the first one to do it manually then that should be considered as a hand registration.

* The 5 days is used as an example and is up for debate, but it's not 5 days after the expiration date, but rather 5 days after the domain has actually been made available to the public to register again and only if you register the domain manually and not through any backorders or automated means and services. Also a true hand reg might be when you have thought of the domain yourself and not to have found it through any lists or insider knowledge.

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I guess we have to come up with a new rule for that, a lot of the domains that we hand register might have been registered at some point in the past and then dropped sometimes several times over the course of time.

In my opinion if you register a domain immediately after it has expired and made available to register again then that might fall within the expired domain category especially if you have been monitoring that domain same as if you used a drop catching service, but if a certain time has elapsed (* lets say 5 days) for you to have registered a domain after it was expired and made available to the public again then that might qualify as a new hand registration.

In another words if other people have also had the opportunity to hand register the domain, but that you were the first one to do it manually then that should be considered as a hand registration.

* The 5 days is used as an example and is up for debate, but it's not 5 days after the expiration date, but rather 5 days after the domain has actually been made available to the public to register again and only if you register the domain manually and not through any backorders or automated means and services. Also a true hand reg might be when you have thought of the domain yourself and not to have found it through any lists or insider knowledge.

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I'm curious, and ignorance at play here, where do you find newly expired domains you can buy for standard regulation fee before it's offered again to the world? Thanks
 
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Glad you have tried both. I think too many get in a routine of only one way to acquire, only hand-register, only in expired auctions, or in expired drops. There are many places to find domains at good prices, including on NamePros and the registrar marketplaces, and while more work the real pay-off is probably for those who track down the private places not listed for sale anywhere. I think a diverse set of ways to acquire domain names is all for the positive.

Best wishes for 2020! Thanks for sharing your experience.

Bob

Thanks Bob, it means a lot coming from someone of your esteem.

I know you're a man for facts and figures and that you're from a science back-round, but one thing that I have noticed in my short domain investing career is the swing from .com to alternative domain extensions. I know that mostly, opinion is formed after studying reams of facts but sometimes over a period of time there can be little indicators that no one else picks up on.

For example, when I started the .coms ruled my top 10 of GD appraised values. Now, only two of my top 10 are .com and the top accounts for a third of my total portfolio value. This means that the other 150 account for the other three thirds. Doesn't make sense to me, but if I could just figure it out it would make choosing domain names that much easier.

I guess, it is one of two things. Either I am getting better at picking names or there is a definite shift in the market towards .notcoms.

Only time will tell.

P.s...the next big thing will be.....................................
 
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I think that there is more probability of hand registering a better name right after it dropped. The more time elapsed after it was dropped - the more exposure it has to all the world and thus worst names are left unregistered as time flows after dropped.

This may not be true for invented or brandable two words. But this may be true for descriptive 2 words names.
 
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I'm curious, and ignorance at play here, where do you find newly expired domains you can buy for standard regulation fee before it's offered again to the world? Thanks

There are many domain suggestion tools and lists in addition to the many drop lists and drop catching tools and services that you can find on the forum, But I personally rarely ever use any of those, I think of new domains to register mostly by researching new trends and ideas.

PS: It's a lot more existing and perhaps a bigger achievement when you can think of domains to register yourself specially if a domain has never been registered before where you are essentially creating (inventing) it for the first time.

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Thanks Bob, it means a lot coming from someone of your esteem.

I know you're a man for facts and figures and that you're from a science back-round, but one thing that I have noticed in my short domain investing career is the swing from .com to alternative domain extensions. I know that mostly, opinion is formed after studying reams of facts but sometimes over a period of time there can be little indicators that no one else picks up on.

For example, when I started the .coms ruled my top 10 of GD appraised values. Now, only two of my top 10 are .com and the top accounts for a third of my total portfolio value. This means that the other 150 account for the other three thirds. Doesn't make sense to me, but if I could just figure it out it would make choosing domain names that much easier.

I guess, it is one of two things. Either I am getting better at picking names or there is a definite shift in the market towards .notcoms.

Only time will tell.

P.s...the next big thing will be.....................................
Redd...i think you're getting better. Remember what I said about "Practice". I do believe the more you do this the better you get, and there's never a dull moment. For instance, I just hand reg'd HoHoCasino.com that ultimately led me to the new extension .Casino. I already owned BoGoCasino.com and RamboCasino.com so now I have a decision whether to buy the new extension to match the .com's? So where are you going in Vegas Redd?....TheBoGo, TheHoHo or TheRambo? See what I mean about having fun:ROFL:
 
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Redd...i think you're getting better. Remember what I said about "Practice". I do believe the more you do this the better you get, and there's never a dull moment. For instance, I just hand reg'd HoHoCasino.com that ultimately led me to the new extension .Casino. I already owned BoGoCasino.com and RamboCasino.com so now I have a decision whether to buy the extension in each of the .com's? So where are you going in Vegas Redd?....TheBoGo, TheHoHo or TheRambo? See what I mean about having fun:ROFL:


Well, seeing as I have www. aztec.gold it wold have to be the Luxor first, then if it were Christmas I'd go to the HoHoHoCasino.

Actually, I was in Vegas in 2001. Best time ever. Memories for a lifetime. I'm not so sure about Heaven, but I'm convinced that when adults die they go to Vegas.
 
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Well, seeing as I have www. aztec.gold it wold have to be the Luxor first, then if it were Christmas I'd go to the HoHoHoCasino.

Actually, I was in Vegas in 2001. Best time ever. Memories for a lifetime. I'm not so sure about Heaven, but I'm convinced that when adults die they go to Vegas.
Good stuff Redd...for a minute there I was trying to remember the last time I was in Vegas and Duh!, I was at NamesCon in Vegas in January of last year, and what a blast. The convention was at the Tropicana that's going through a major renovation. The pic on my Avitar was when I arrived too early for my reservation and I slept just off the main lobby until they got me a room.

Back on topic, i wonder what the top three features would be for what oldtimer considers a "good" domain? I'll start with what I hope is the easiest..."Short"....take it away!
 
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I think that there is more probability of hand registering a better name right after it dropped. The more time elapsed after it was dropped - the more exposure it has to all the world and thus worst names are left unregistered as time flows after dropped.

This may not be true for invented or brandable two words. But this may be true for descriptive 2 words names.

You are right as far as not waiting too long to get the domains that have expired, it's best to act quickly perhaps by even placing backorders on the ones that are the best, but as far as what is considered to be hand reg versus expired domain it seems to me that a domain should qualify as hand reg only if other people also have had the opportunity to register it and that you managed to be the first one that got.

So for a domain to be considered to be a true hand reg there should have been a window of opportunity that it became available to the public before you got it, otherwise if you got immediately after it became available either through backorder and drop catching services or by monitoring it yourself then it would be more in the expired domain category rather than being a hand reg (of course that's how I think about this, others might think differently).

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Good stuff Redd...for a minute there I was trying to remember the last time I was in Vegas and Duh!, I was at NamesCon in Vegas in January of last year, and what a blast. The convention was at the Tropicana that's going through a major renovation. The pic on my Avitar was when I arrived too early for my reservation and I slept just off the main lobby until they got me a room.

Back on topic, i wonder what the top three features would be for what oldtimer considers a "good" domain? I'll start with what I hope is the easiest..."Short"....take it away!

I'd say that if I can remember it the next day then it hit its mark. I bet if you try to remember the ads or jingles from your youth there will be ones you can still can probably sing or hum anyways. I'd want some of my domain names to be that memorable in the future.

The reverse of this scenario is that today, there are billion dollar companies that no one (in a metaphorical sense) has heard of. We have just come to accept that here comes another one.

Also, the one thing that cannot be quantified or explained is just pure luck. Someone, anyone, anywhere may wake up tomorrow morning and just want your domain name. Does that qualify it automatically as a good name? No. It just means that you met one persons personal needs at that moment in time.

The more I practice, the luckier I get.” – Gary Player. “
 
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Glad you have tried both. I think too many get in a routine of only one way to acquire, only hand-register, only in expired auctions, or in expired drops. There are many places to find domains at good prices, including on NamePros and the registrar marketplaces, and while more work the real pay-off is probably for those who track down the private places not listed for sale anywhere. I think a diverse set of ways to acquire domain names is all for the positive.

Best wishes for 2020! Thanks for sharing your experience.

Bob

there are many gems dropping all the time. The reason people go that route (chasing expired) is auctions are often an overpriced joke and you can often obtain expired for a fixed price.

No harm in looking everywhere but a newbie with a smaller budget will probably do better on expired if they know a good name when they see it. I realize that is a big if and also applies to hand registering.
 
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I'm curious, and ignorance at play here, where do you find newly expired domains you can buy for standard regulation fee before it's offered again to the world? Thanks
It's actually not possible to access expired domain names for registration fee prices before anyone else. Once a domain expires, and subsequently is deleted from the registry, it becomes available for all to register again.

The way to circumvent this (i.e. beat others to the punch) is by using a drop-catching service like DropCatch or SnapNames. They're able to re-register domain names as they drop (almost instantly) via their massive networks of registrars. Of course you need to pay an additional fee for this service... DropCatch charges $59 per name and SnapNames charges $79. There are other dropcatch services (NameJet, Pheenix, etc), but these two generally catch the most (DropCatch is the clear leader, though).

You place dropcatch backorders in advance of the domain being deleted. If you're the only one who backorders, you pay the fee and the name is yours. If others place a backorder on the same name, the domain gets placed into an auction (typically 3 days long, I believe) where the highest bidder wins. If you don't win, you don't pay anything.

Dropcatching can be a nice way to secure less popular names that you want to really make sure not to miss. However, the practice has become so popular that I find it extremely rare to get decent prices on even average quality names.

Another alternative to dropcatching is buying closeout domains that are registered with GoDaddy. This is an additional step GD puts their names through if they don't sell in GD expired auctions. Basically you have 7 days to purchase the name at a flat fee before the name is deleted (this is in addition to the registration fee that you also must pay). The price decreases by a dollar per day (starting at $11). A nice little bonus of buying names at closeout is that the domain retains its age, which creates an illusion of additional value for some.
 
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a lot of the domains that we hand register might have been registered at some point in the past and then dropped sometimes several times over the course of time
Yes, I have always found the definition challenging as @Ntmt also noted. After I came to learn about domain research tools, I started checking, and was surprised that the vast majority of names, especially in .com, that I registered, or was considering registering, had indeed been previously registered, often numerous times over many years.

There is a subtle difference between a name that is picked up prior to expiry, usually indicating more value, but I think the difference between expired pickups and hand reg is often not much.

No matter what we call them, I think that we should keep in mind that the important thing is the quality off the name. While other parameters, like age or automated estimates of worth, may be loosely related to quality, they alone do not ensure quality. If a name passes many checks, reasonable number of possible users who would benefit from name, reasonable number of previous sales of similar names in most cases, correct wording and spelling in most cases, no TM issues, a niche with upward prospects, and in many cases having both audible and visual aesthetic quality, it has good prospects whether hand-reg or not.

Thank you for starting this thread @oldtimer and for all who contributed valuable insights.

Bob
 
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Yes, I have always found the definition challenging as @Ntmt also noted. After I came to learn about domain research tools, I started checking, and was surprised that the vast majority of names, especially in .com, that I registered, or was considering registering, had indeed been previously registered, often numerous times over many years.

There is a subtle difference between a name that is picked up prior to expiry, usually indicating more value, but I think the difference between expired pickups and hand reg is often not much.

No matter what we call them, I think that we should keep in mind that the important thing is the quality off the name. While other parameters, like age or automated estimates of worth, may be loosely related to quality, they alone do not ensure quality. If a name passes many checks, reasonable number of possible users who would benefit from name, reasonable number of previous sales of similar names in most cases, correct wording and spelling in most cases, no TM issues, a niche with upward prospects, and in many cases having both audible and visual aesthetic quality, it has good prospects whether hand-reg or not.

Thank you for starting this thread @oldtimer and for all who contributed valuable insights.

Bob

Lets consider the domain name DigitizedReality.com that I was able to hand register just couple of days ago, I believe that it had been registered and dropped at least couple of times in the past few years as far back as 2012 and as recently as 2018. I consider this to be a good domain name because there are many results for "Digitized Reality" when searching google and I believe that .de is a developed site already (with hyphen).

"Digitized Reality" represents a whole new concept that seems to be trending as almost everything in our lives is beginning to become Digitized. Honestly I was surprised to see this domain just sitting there and for me to be able to hand register it.

It just happened that I thought of this domain on my own after reading a related article to this subject here on the form, but if I had been monitoring this domain and had registered it the day that it had dropped (I believe it last dropped in 2018) or if I had gotten it through one of the backorder or drop catching services then I don't believe that it would qualify as a true hand reg.

So the way that I look at this is that a domain is considered to be hand reg (even it was registered and dropped in the past) as long it was available to everyone else to hand register at the time that you got it.

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So the way that I look at this is that a domain is considered to be hand reg (even it was registered and dropped in the past) as long it was available to everyone else to hand register at the time that you got it.

I agree it is the best definition.

In my own mind, if I find a name due to an expiry list (no one else takes it), then it is formally a hand-registration if I wait and get it at hand-reg fee, but it is not quite as genuinely one as a name that, like in your example, I come up with and check that it is available (even if unknown at first to me someone previously had it).

Thanks again,

Bob
 
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I agree it is the best definition.

In my own mind, if I find a name due to an expiry list (no one else takes it), then it is formally a hand-registration if I wait and get it at hand-reg fee, but it is not quite as genuinely one as a name that, like in your example, I come up with and check that it is available (even if unknown at first to me someone previously had it).

Thanks again,

Bob

You are right if you think of a domain on your own without having seen it on an expiry list then that would be considered a True hand reg.

To add more to this definitions, if you think of a domain that has Never been registered before (in any form or extension) then in a way you have Invented a new domain name which should be considered as the highest achievement when it comes to hand registering domains.

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You are right if you think of a domain on your own without having seen it on an expiry list then that would be considered a True hand reg.

To add more to this definitions, if you think of a domain that has Never been registered before (in any form or extension) then in a way you have Invented a new domain name which should be considered as the highest achievement when it comes to hand registering domains.

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Virtually all my domains are true hand regs. That said, before I pull the trigger, I check HosterStats.com to see if the domain had ever been registered, and if it had, for how long? HosterStats records go back to the year 2000, and are up to date to within the last couple of months. For example, I bought a domain last week that had been registered in 2001 and was just dropped/deleted November 2019. At least for me, I mostly see that as a good thing and generally hand reg the domain. Then when I come up with a name that's never been registered before, I tend to do a little more research and hold off buying it for a few days. That's the case for a domain that's on my list to review and possibly buy later; BoGoGrill(e).com. Basically I have my own reasons for wanting to own it that overrides the fact it's never been registered.

I luv the hand reg game....it sure beats playing hand ball:xf.wink:
 
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Virtually all my domains are true hand regs. That said, before I pull the trigger, I check HosterStats.com to see if the domain had ever been registered, and if it had, for how long? HosterStats records go back to the year 2000, and are up to date to within the last couple of months. For example, I bought a domain last week that had been registered in 2001 and was just dropped/deleted November 2019. At least for me, I mostly see that as a good thing and generally hand reg the domain.
I think a history that shows a long period of continued registration has the potential to be equally bad as well. Much depends on why the domain was held for that long. Was it used commercially, or was it held by another hopeful domainer for 18 years?

Using Archive.org can sometimes be a nice way to gather additional information on past usage. If a viable business had operated on that name for several years, then I tend to agree that it could be a point in the name's favor (while also factoring in other things @Bob Hawkes mentioned like comparable sales, keyword popularity, etc).
 
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I think a history that shows a long period of continued registration has the potential to be equally bad as well. Much depends on why the domain was held for that long. Was it used commercially, or was it held by another hopeful domainer for 18 years?

Using Archive.org can sometimes be a nice way to gather additional information on past usage. If a viable business had operated on that name for several years, then I tend to agree that it could be a point in the name's favor (while also factoring in other things @Bob Hawkes mentioned like comparable sales, keyword popularity, etc).
I don't disagree, but because I may be a little more creative than the next guy, I'm willing to take a chance. Maybe I have an idea of how to develop the name, or an idea of how to "outbound" market the name(y) Regardless, I'm not about to be a bench warmer like the prior owner, i'm in it to win it:xf.grin:
 
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About a year ago I heard about the new Roll Up TV made by LG , although Roll Up TV .com was already taken, but I thought with myself that if there was a Roll Up TV that there would also going to be a Roll Down TV soon and so I registered the domain RollDownTV.com (using a $1.00 Network solution special) and I just heard in the CES electronic show that LG has come up with the new Roll Down TV which can hang from the ceiling or on the side of a wall. I am sure that other TV manufacturers are also going to get on with this trend in the near future if not already.

In my opinion Roll Down TV is much better than Roll Up TV specially because there is also a smaller version made for the car that fits behind the headrest.

If you keep on top of the new trends specially when it comes to new technologies you might also be able to hand register a nice domain.

By the way the new Roll Down TV that is going be released this year cost around 60k , I was wondering if I could get a new TV (or maybe several of them) in exchange for this domain specially because my TV has been acting up and doesn't want to work all the time and I haven't been able to afford to buy a new one. :rolleyes:

By the way I still have one of those bulky old fashioned TVs that is not a flat screen which I bought on a black friday sale at Walmart for $35 dollars years ago when they had started to put them out of circulation to make room for the new TVs, so even though I am up to date with technology when it comes to domains, but most of my stuff including my smartphone is ancient technology. :)

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I Also got:

RollableComputer.com

and

RollableMonitor.com


It seems like Rollable is going to replace Foldable in the near future.

Keep on top of the new technologies and you might be able to be the first to discover a good domain, although sometimes you have to anticipate where a new technology is headed at a few years in advance (or at least one year in advance in the case of my domains here)


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I Also got:

RollableComputer.com

and

RollableMonitor.com


It seems like Rollable is going to replace Foldable in the near future.

Keep on top of the new technologies and you might be able to be the first to discover a good domain, although sometimes you have to anticipate where a new technology is headed at a few years in advance (or at least one year in advance in the case of my domains here)


IMO

I handregged

RollableOled.com
 
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