New Uniregisty Landers

[Windoms]

There are new Uniregistry landers, what do you think?

They're called ''Single Offer Field''.

Here's the UNI commission structure.

0% commission if you negotiate yourself. Anytime there's a lead you get buyer name, email, phone number, location.
10% commission on BIN landers. Any lander using BIN buttons.
15% if you assign lead to broker. You get to see all the communication between buyer and broker, you can send hidden messages to broker. System assigns lead to first broker available (there's many). In my experience they start engaging buyers within minutes.

You don't need to have domains registered at Uniregistry to use them. Simply create an account and add domains.

I recommend you use the Uni platform to sort your domains.

https://uniregistry.com/market

Single Offer Field - Make offer. You can negotiate yourself for 0% commission or assign to broker for 15% commission.

Single Offer Field - BIN. 10% commission.

Single offer Field - BIN + make offer.

Here's the other landers available (not new).

Minimal Vertical layout - BIN - 10% commission.

Minimal Vertical layout - make offer (no offer box) -
Inquiry form where buyer gets price quote. Buyer can't make any offer, he simply inquires.
You can negotiate yourself for 0% commission or assign to broker for 15% commission.

Minimal Vertical layout - make offer (with offer box). Buyer can place an offer.

Minimal Vertical layout - BIN + make offer (can be done with or without offer box)

Minimal Horizontal Layout

 

[Windoms]

I don't see much difference between this new and old BIN landers. I rarely used their BIN landers and that too for leads which were total time wasters and actually looking for something else so in order to stop the unnecessary stuff.

There was no other reason for using their BIN as I never found it attractive because they charged 10% for every successful sale happening via their BIN lander. It's better to use Afternic lander and pay 20% than paying 10% for Uni to be doing very little work.

I'm not saying this now because I've left using Uni landers but I've never been in favor of using Uni BIN landers.

Didn't understand your second question... Can you ask in other way?

Yes I am aware you left Uni landers in favor of ns3 ns4 afternic landers, we talked about it here.

I rarely used their BIN landers and that too for leads which were total time wasters and actually looking for something else so in order to stop the unnecessary stuff.

I understand you had been using vertical layout inquiry form landers on most of your names, negotiating yourself in order to pay 0 commission. I remember you saying that most of your leads were not resulting in any sale and that it was part of domaining.
My question wasn't about BIN landers specifically, but rather the new landers overall, do you like them. But you said they are like the old ones so OK.

Why did you switch? afternic sales? don't want to deal with negotiations anymore? godaddy branding? I was actually considering ns3 ns4 afternic, but concerned with lack of transparency. Are you notified when there's an inquiry or do they just deal with floor price and let you know when there's a sale?

That's why I'm starting to like those ns3 ns4.afternic.com landers a lot.
Buyers see that big GoDaddy logo on top of the page.
So calling that phone number or filling that inquiry form is much easier for them as they feel they'll be talking to GoDaddy.
The form says ''Get a price in less than 24 hours. Fill out the form below. One of our domain experts will have a price to you within 24 busines hours''.
It's very good at engaging prospective buyers imo.
vs trying to figure an offer on a make offer page.

The second question was that some people pointed at the fact that leads might have been disapearing at uni.
Meaning you get an inquiry, but you never know you did (basically uni stealing your leads).
Have you ever heard it?

 

[wwwweb]

UNI is really missing out, and losing a lot of business to Dan now they have upped their monthly payment program, and BIN landers. Hopefully they will be integrate self managed monthly payment plans into their platform soon.

 

[Windoms]

UNI is really missing out, and losing a lot of business to Dan now they have upped their monthly payment program, and BIN landers. Hopefully they will be integrate self managed monthly payment plans into their platform soon.

I heard Uni brokers were able to offer payment plans, but not us.
Since they are already dealing with those, perhaps they could implement payment plans on the new BIN landers.
@Quintin

 

[wwwweb]

I heard Uni brokers were able to offer payment plans, but not us.
Since they are already dealing with those, perhaps they could implement payment plans on the new BIN landers.
@Quintin

When it comes to payment plans it has to be done thru brokers (15%), where full commission is taken up front. So if buyer makes 1-2 payments, and defaults you pretty much get nothing. Plus there is a $40 a month holding fee for buyers. So it really has to be a larger sale, for it to be worthwhile. Now if you had say a buyer who wanted to do $2500, over 1 year, no way they are going to want to pay a holding fee, and for such a sale, Uni is losing the business by people simply moving the transaction to another provider like Dan. Just myself I have observed Abdul, and Logan move their accounts from Uni landers, to Afternic, and Dan recently, these are two engaging accounts. So there is a disconnect somewhere, not sure what is going on, but hopefully they can reconnect, and create new clients, and keep old ones.

 

[Quintin]

I heard Uni brokers were able to offer payment plans, but not us.
Since they are already dealing with those, perhaps they could implement payment plans on the new BIN landers.
@Quintin

This is something that's on our roadmap. We mainly use payment plans as a second option and for higher value sales during negotiations to get the deal done. I understand the proposition for using it on lower value names, on self-managed sales and to avoid having fees, but we can't always do everything at once

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

@Quintin
Please update Title for this new SIngle Offer template... to more descriptive like on your traditional landers...
Currently it looks:
<title>Uniregistry - Contact</title>

 

[twiki]

Have about 2500 domains listed at Uniregistry since November.

Haven't got a single inquiry, be it $100 or whatever.

 

[Elad n]

Got 230 names listed since November with 7 inquires so far.

Moved to uni because I like the way they present their Landers, nothing more.

Hoping to see a chat added to the name and a payment plan plus lower commission on BIN sales

 

[Josytal]

1) if you specify the lead to be brokered, it goes to the brokerage
2) if not, it depends on a few factors.
2a) lead comes from type-in traffic via the intake form it will go to you unless
2b) it comes in via our syndication network
2c) it comes from a buyer who is currently working with a broker on his/her inquiries or
2d) it is generated by our registrar (kind of a default syndication partner)
2e) it comes in via our name buy service

Why all these complications?
Where is KISS?

Can imagine how many twisting ifs and ...elseifs

 

[Josytal]

"Single Offer Field" is great lander , make a buyer focus on make offer or click BIN . No need see or click another link , because there are no other clickable link on headar , sidebar , and footer.

Another myth.
So 'cos there are no clickable links, visitor will make genuine offer or click BIN?
No provision for asking questions, pre-sales inquiries, no contact details. And you consider it normal, it's best business practice?
Then don't complain later on when you receive fake offers, 'cos you are literally asking for them.

 

[Quintin]

Another myth.
So 'cos there are no clickable links, visitor will make genuine offer or click BIN?
No provision for asking questions, pre-sales inquiries, no contact details. And you consider it normal, it's best business practice?
Then don't complain later on when you receive fake offers, 'cos you are literally asking for them.

This is a challenge we face. I believe that by having information on the page and having links to other parts of our site, we can help build value together. But we worry that if we make the pages more "friendly" that our users will think we're doing something shady. We could always make it a configurable setting, but then it just makes more settings which makes the software more complex to use, so it's a challenge...

 

[Elad n]

This is a challenge we face. I believe that by having information on the page and having links to other parts of our site, we can help build value together. But we worry that if we make the pages more "friendly" that our users will think we're doing something shady. We could always make it a configurable setting, but then it just makes more settings which makes the software more complex to use, so it's a challenge...

Way I see it, BIN plus inquiry with field open is the best option and the one I'm using now

 

[Quintin]

@Quintin
Please update Title for this new SIngle Offer template... to more descriptive like on your traditional landers...
Currently it looks:
<title>Uniregistry - Contact</title>

This should be fixed. Thank you for your feedback.

 

[BrandableDomain]

The Uniregistry Market is phenomenal.

Here is a summary of the 31 sales I made for $85,395 in 2019:

Q1 - 7 sales - $ 26,800

Q2 - 5 sales - $ 13,975

Q3 - 10 sales - $ 17,529

Q4 - 9 sales - $ 27,100

In June, at the end of Q2, I made a significant change to my lander settings. I changed all my landers from “BIN” only to “BIN” plus “Submit Enquiry”.

This is one of the old lander settings, and is called “Minimal Vertical layout - make offer (no offer box)” by @Windoms above.

IMPORTANT NOTE

While both @Windoms and Uniregistry themselves (in the Domain Manager) call this BIN plus make offer, the lander itself does not say “Make Offer”

I cannot stress strongly enough the importance of this difference. When used in conjunction with a BIN, a “Make Offer” option signals weakness, it instantly conveys that you don’t really mean your BIN price, it’s just an ambit price, and that it is negotiable.

On the other hand, a BIN price plus a field saying “Submit Enquiry” is totally superior because it does not signal weakness. It simply gives the buyer additional options - to enquire about transfers, payments and above all, establish trust. This increases the chances of closing a deal.

Sure, it does make it easier for buyers to ask for a discount, but that’s fine, you aren’t obliged to.

I don’t have enough stats to say definitively, but I am personally absolutely certain that changing to the dual option increased my sales velocity. Without the change, my sales would have been less.

(I do have to concede that I did also lower quite a few prices in the second half which probably added a few extra sales.)

My thanks go to Jonathan Chernoff at Uni for telling me that this option is “very popular”

- - - - - - - -

Now taking a look at the four new landers, I am certain that Uni needs to add a new fifth one, one with a BIN plus “Submit Enquiry”.

As I just said, a BIN in conjunction with “make an offer” is contradictory and therefore is a bad idea. IMO. I strongly recommend that @Quintin considers this.

- - - - - - - -

My good sales results are continuing into 2020. To illustrate how great the Uni Market actually is, here is a screenshot covering my last 30 days of sales. To note, a $10,000 sale in early January is excluded from this graphic:

 

[Abdullah Abdullah]

The Uniregistry Market is phenomenal.

Here is a summary of the 31 sales I made for $85,395 in 2019:

Q1 - 7 sales - $ 26,800

Q2 - 5 sales - $ 13,975

Q3 - 10 sales - $ 17,529

Q4 - 9 sales - $ 27,100

In June, at the end of Q2, I made a significant change to my lander settings. I changed all my landers from “BIN” only to “BIN” plus “Submit Enquiry”.

This is one of the old lander settings, and is called “Minimal Vertical layout - make offer (no offer box)” by @Windoms above.

IMPORTANT NOTE

While both @Windoms and Uniregistry themselves (in the Domain Manager) call this BIN plus make offer, the lander itself does not say “Make Offer”

I cannot stress strongly enough the importance of this difference. When used in conjunction with a BIN, a “Make Offer” option signals weakness, it instantly conveys that you don’t really mean your BIN price, it’s just an ambit price, and that it is negotiable.

On the other hand, a BIN price plus a field saying “Submit Enquiry” is totally superior because it does not signal weakness. It simply gives the buyer additional options - to enquire about transfers, payments and above all, establish trust. This increases the chances of closing a deal.

Sure, it does make it easier for buyers to ask for a discount, but that’s fine, you aren’t obliged to.

I don’t have enough stats to say definitively, but I am personally absolutely certain that changing to the dual option increased my sales velocity. Without the change, my sales would have been less.

(I do have to concede that I did also lower quite a few prices in the second half which probably added a few extra sales.)

My thanks go to Jonathan Chernoff at Uni for telling me that this option is “very popular”

- - - - - - - -

Now taking a look at the four new landers, I am certain that Uni needs to add a new fifth one, one with a BIN plus “Submit Enquiry”.

As I just said, a BIN in conjunction with “make an offer” is contradictory and therefore is a bad idea. IMO. I strongly recommend that @Quintin considers this.

- - - - - - - -

My good sales results are continuing into 2020. To illustrate how great the Uni Market actually is, here is a screenshot covering my last 30 days of sales. To note, a $10,000 sale in early January is excluded from this graphic:

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Thanks for this information, the sales method, do you choose bin with make offer when you apply that lander?

 

[Abdullah Abdullah]

I just understood this, I used to use it but did not test it long enough. The person cannot submit any message to you but by just providing his name, email, and phone number, you receive an inquiry which then asks you to quote a price.

The Uniregistry Market is phenomenal.

Here is a summary of the 31 sales I made for $85,395 in 2019:

Q1 - 7 sales - $ 26,800

Q2 - 5 sales - $ 13,975

Q3 - 10 sales - $ 17,529

Q4 - 9 sales - $ 27,100

In June, at the end of Q2, I made a significant change to my lander settings. I changed all my landers from “BIN” only to “BIN” plus “Submit Enquiry”.

This is one of the old lander settings, and is called “Minimal Vertical layout - make offer (no offer box)” by @Windoms above.

IMPORTANT NOTE

While both @Windoms and Uniregistry themselves (in the Domain Manager) call this BIN plus make offer, the lander itself does not say “Make Offer”

I cannot stress strongly enough the importance of this difference. When used in conjunction with a BIN, a “Make Offer” option signals weakness, it instantly conveys that you don’t really mean your BIN price, it’s just an ambit price, and that it is negotiable.

On the other hand, a BIN price plus a field saying “Submit Enquiry” is totally superior because it does not signal weakness. It simply gives the buyer additional options - to enquire about transfers, payments and above all, establish trust. This increases the chances of closing a deal.

Sure, it does make it easier for buyers to ask for a discount, but that’s fine, you aren’t obliged to.

I don’t have enough stats to say definitively, but I am personally absolutely certain that changing to the dual option increased my sales velocity. Without the change, my sales would have been less.

(I do have to concede that I did also lower quite a few prices in the second half which probably added a few extra sales.)

My thanks go to Jonathan Chernoff at Uni for telling me that this option is “very popular”

- - - - - - - -

Now taking a look at the four new landers, I am certain that Uni needs to add a new fifth one, one with a BIN plus “Submit Enquiry”.

As I just said, a BIN in conjunction with “make an offer” is contradictory and therefore is a bad idea. IMO. I strongly recommend that @Quintin considers this.

- - - - - - - -

My good sales results are continuing into 2020. To illustrate how great the Uni Market actually is, here is a screenshot covering my last 30 days of sales. To note, a $10,000 sale in early January is excluded from this graphic:

Show attachment 144221

 

[frank-germany]

I'm happy to work with you to figure why the Uni Market didn't work for you.

to me that uniregistry lading page never was an issue

but personally I think you have extremely bad brokers
some of them to me look like desperate dudes
from 3rd world countries
never having had any education in negotiation

and just ruining the lead


82 inquiries in several years
and no sales ever

that made me leave uniregistry a few years ago

 

[AbdulBasit.com]

Yes I am aware you left Uni landers in favor of ns3 ns4 afternic landers, we talked about it here.


I understand you had been using vertical layout inquiry form landers on most of your names, negotiating yourself in order to pay 0 commission. I remember you saying that most of your leads were not resulting in any sale and that it was part of domaining.
My question wasn't about BIN landers specifically, but rather the new landers overall, do you like them. But you said they are like the old ones so OK.

Why did you switch? afternic sales? don't want to deal with negotiations anymore? godaddy branding? I was actually considering ns3 ns4 afternic, but concerned with lack of transparency. Are you notified when there's an inquiry or do they just deal with floor price and let you know when there's a sale?



The second question was that some people pointed at the fact that leads might have been disapearing at uni.
Meaning you get an inquiry, but you never know you did (basically uni stealing your leads).
Have you ever heard it?

I think my post regarding the switch clearly mentions why I switched to Afternic with several obvious reasons...

They deal with the floor price and let me know when there's a sale. Also sometimes they inform if there is an offer which is closer to floor/BIN price as I sometimes set up BIN and floor price as same.

For your second question, I haven't noticed that ever at my end. Also never heard of it before until you said so.

 

[BrandableDomain]

With lightyears ahead management tools.

10% BIN commission.
0% self brokered commission.
Ability to assign leads to formal professional brokers for a 15% commission.

I think Uniregistry provides superior value.

In November 2018 Frank Schilling announced Project Dynamo in a tweet:

“…we are launching the greatest piece of sales infrastructure ever launched to sell a domain name.”

This was a major upgrade to the Uni platform and was launched a year later with about 50 improvements.
I agree with @Windoms, the platform is light years ahead.

I joined the platform at the end of 2016 and am extremely happy with my sales results:

2017 - $70,000

2018 - $79,000

2019 - $85,395

…Adding my 2020 sales takes me to the quarter million dollar mark

 

[Abdullah Abdullah]

to me that uniregistry lading page never was an issue

but personally I think you have extremely bad brokers
some of them to me look like desperate dudes
from 3rd world countries
never having had any education in negotiation

and just ruining the lead


82 inquiries in several years
and no sales ever

that made me leave uniregistry a few years ago

That dislike was for the part of your post which I colored and emboldened in red. Not good to make fun of people who you dont know what circumstances they went through or they are going through now.

 

[BrandableDomain]

to me that uniregistry lading page never was an issue

but personally I think you have extremely bad brokers
some of them to me look like desperate dudes
from 3rd world countries
never having had any education in negotiation

and just ruining the lead


82 inquiries in several years
and no sales ever

that made me leave uniregistry a few years ago

Well I've just added my 2020 Uni sales to the three previous years, and my sales have passed $250,000.

 

[frank-germany]

That dislike was for the part of your post which I colored and emboldened in red. Not good to make fun of people who you dont know what circumstances they went through or they are going through now.

they have all my sympathy
I just don't want them to negotiate my leads

w/o proper education

 

[frank-germany]

they have all my sympathy
I just don't want them to negotiate my leads

w/o proper education

and I don't want them to send endless followup emails
that could easily get the oscar on
"the worst you could do to a prospect"

 

[BrandableDomain]

Thanks for this information, the sales method, do you choose bin with make offer when you apply that lander?

All my listings have a BIN price (and a minimum acceptable offer which is hidden from the buyer to give the brokers some room to negotiate). Accompanied by a "Submit Enquiry" field.

They are called "Minimum Vertical Layout" style and described as "Offers and BIN" method.

But I stress again the landers don't actually have an "Offers" field, they have a "Submit Enquiry" field

This is really important. IMO.

I have "Syndicated" selected but syndicated sales are quite rare. Once or twice I've had a lead come in from DomainTools or somewhere.

 

[Elad n]

All my listings have a BIN price (and a minimum acceptable offer which is hidden from the buyer to give the brokers some room to negotiate). Accompanied by a "Submit Enquiry" field.

They are called "Minimum Vertical Layout" style and described as "Offers and BIN" method.

But I stress again the landers don't actually have an "Offers" field, they have a "Submit Enquiry" field

This is really important. IMO.

I have "Syndicated" selected but syndicated sales are quite rare. Once or twice I've had a lead come in from DomainTools or somewhere.

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The one I'm using.

VRstorytelling.com in example