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Donuts Inc (premium domains division) posted 9 tweets; 1/9 Domain King ... “we don’t agree with your #gtld point-of-view ....

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Sneaky Advertising Geniuses @ Donuts promoting premium domains. No budget for main media ads. Pathetic
 
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Donuts makes a good point. Using a .tv for a vlog seems more of an endorsement for NewG's versus being a .com maximalist.

Domain extensions have meaning to specific niches and industries. We are seeing it with country codes as well as with the NewG's. Examples being .AI for artificial intelligence, .co for company, .gg for good game and of course .tv for video content.

Disclaimer: I invest in all extensions including the most sought after, .com.
 
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The question is; why Donuts didn't jump into hotdog debate year/s ago but now*... when in need to sell/promote own agenda - premium domains (800.000) + going one step forward by (mis)using well known person in a hope to attract more domainers (now they need them?). imo
 
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The question is; why Donuts didn't jump into hotdog debate year/s ago but now*... when in need to sell/promote own agenda - premium domains (800.000) + going one step forward by using well known person in a hope to attract more domainers (now they need them?). imo
It can be debated, but IMO Donuts has definitely failed in their marketing efforts. Their biggest failure was comparing to .com by calling NewG's "non .com." They would have been better off promoting their attributes instead of trying to degrade .com.
 
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Donuts makes a good point. Using a .tv for a vlog seems more of an endorsement for NewG's versus being a .com maximalist.

Domain extensions have meaning to specific niches and industries. We are seeing it with country codes as well as with the NewG's. Examples being .AI for artificial intelligence, .co for company, .gg for good game and of course .tv for video content.

Disclaimer: I invest in all extensions including the most sought after, .com.

cctlds used as gtlds have very little in common with ngtlds...

If you are going to go to something else other than .com, at least it should have an advantage and cctlds have it: they are shorter.

So, tv, co, ai, io, .me are in the category of their own. I wouldn't include gg there yet. It could prove just a temporary fad...
 
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It can be debated, but IMO Donuts has definitely failed in their marketing efforts. Their biggest failure was comparing to .com by calling NewG's "non .com." They would have been better off promoting their attributes instead of trying to degrade .com.

They heavily counted on domainers to do the marketing job for them - for free + taxing them quietly with a very high renewals. Good job!
 
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cctlds used as gtlds have very little in common with ngtlds
I was trying to make the point that the extension, both cc's and NewG's, can have a meaning besides being generic.

I wouldn't include gg there yet
Alright, you don't include it, but some big budget esports groups are building on it.
 
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Not nice calling them pathetic for socializing and debating online. It's HEALTHY. You'd like everyone to SHUT up about nTLD, wouldn't you? That'd serve your agenda fine, @Lox? That's really rude, the bad attitude. No budget? Is that true, or more fake slander/propaganda by our 'usual' suspects?
 
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That's bad tactic:

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8/ Industries #evolve, including ours. Leaders must evolve or, well, cease to lead. You’ve evolved your thinking about the impact and value of domain extensions #beyond .com.
 
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LOL, the whole thing is a bad idea, or should I say hole thing because ... well ... donuts
 
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I was trying to make the point that the extension, both cc's and NewG's, can have a meaning besides being generic.


Alright, you don't include it, but some big budget esports groups are building on it.

All the power to them! This is a domain investor forum, not a gamer forum. So I write from a domain investor perspective.

It is too niche with too high acquisition and renewal costs to qualify for that for now.
 
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LOL, the whole thing is a bad idea, or should I say hole thing because ... well ... donuts

Dobananas and donuts ))
 
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I don't disagree with that. I was writing from a domain investor perspective as well. Maybe it's not the same as your perspective, but it's still a perspective.

Do you have any data to support that? At $70/year renewals, you need to to make 1 sale of $7000 per year holding 100 domains just to pay for renewals. Good luck with that, unless you have perfect terms for gaming, like console, play, team, sports, esports, compete, tube, stream...
 
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They heavily counted on domainers to do the marketing job for them - for free + taxing them quietly with a very high renewals. Good job!

Totally Agreed! Hope we do not then show them our major support atleast till the regs and renewals go down to a good low price ie. like below $20
 
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Not nice calling them pathetic for socializing and debating online. It's HEALTHY. You'd like everyone to SHUT up about nTLD, wouldn't you? That'd serve your agenda fine, @Lox? That's really rude, the bad attitude. No budget? Is that true, or more fake slander/propaganda by our 'usual' suspects?

You have absolute right to express your view-of-point and that's fine with me. What's pathetic is they (Donuts), as one of the biggest nTLDs providers, didn't invest in mainstream media - $0.

Regards
 
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Neither did frank schilling, he was in deep since the beginning. In fact, he pump .com on his new uniregistry blog while abuses us nTLD with $900 / yr increases against his own very 'investors'. I wonder, are him and Rick friends?

There are some people here trying to sabotage nTLD all along. Those same ones that said 'ntld will fail' are the sames ones throwing a fit and making false claims / attacks against others right now, like you. Twitter is a medium for exchange. Do you consider Rick a GOD, unable to be spoken to?

nTLD are taking hold by developers at expanding rate. I see them everywhere on twitter (among all the sad no_url_shorteners/this1link2sucks LINKS).

You are on the wrong side of the fence, and when the tables turn, we all know who those that slammed us with propaganda are. ANYONE that talks crap is going to eat crow, mark my words.
 
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@Lox and what is mainstream anyways? CNN? LOL! TV would be extremely INEFFICIENT use of money. The 'mainstream' doesn't know CRAP about domain investing. Domaining has NEVER been mainstream. Who can we blame for that? The last 20 years of .COM'ers?

From a business perspective the effective marketing is where there's VALUE, where the customers tend to 'hang out' IE: online.
 
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I won't comment on Donuts media advertising budget, or lack, since I don't know it. I do know they had an effective booth at NamesCon and an eye catching big banner highlighting some platinum domain names, both sold and unsold.

But on specific topic of the tweet series, even though it may well backfire, the logic in the series of statements is strong in my opinion. They are respectful and give credit to the great insights Rick offers domain investors through blog, tweets and video series. They also acknowledge his incredible success as a domain investor. They then draw a parallel between the elegant design of the name Rick.tv and what is possible to similarly do in new domain extensions.

Bob
 
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Donuts has junk domains.
Richard made a mistake with .tv (and with .mobi)
 
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cctlds used as gtlds have very little in common with ngtlds...

Exactly, and buying a 2-letter ccTLD has absolutely nothing in common with endorsing new gTLDs.

Talk about grasping at straws...
 
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But on specific topic of the tweet series, even though it may well backfire, the logic in the series of statements is strong in my opinion. They are respectful and give credit to the great insights Rick offers domain investors through blog, tweets and video series. They also acknowledge his incredible success as a domain investor. They then draw a parallel between the elegant design of the name Rick.tv and what is possible to similarly do in new domain extensions.
Totally agree with this opinion. Backfire or not the goals is to tell folks is working.
 
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